Topic: Visor Misting - who has a cure?

[mennedy]

I haven't had much problem with fogging. I wear glasses too. When I ski, I use anti fogging spray but I find it only helps, not eliminates. I still have to drop my head down a little to get air flowing through the goggles and that "clears the air". I use a similar process with my full face helmet. I put anti fogging on my glasses, open the face mask up at stops and then open just a little if it starts to fog while driving. A warm moist air mass is fighting a cold dry air mass. I treat it as a management issue - ventilate, ventilate, ventilate! Hey, -17C and the snow is back tonight. It is great to have that kind of problem.

[medic09]

Makes you wonder what the thought processes were in coming up with the name though.

all I can tell you is it's been around for a long time.  sorry to hear they closed.

[Jonesy]

It was probably such a good product that once everyone bought it, they didn't need it anymore...

[DarkRider]

like some of the others i usually ride with my visor opened a notch when im riding at cruising speed. I have a Bell Lynx helmet. so far i havent noticed any major wind noise with it. about the only issue i had with it was the visor fogging and as said i got around that opening it slightly..the only time its fully shut now is when im opening the bike up on the highway or something.

[Jeb]

Cat Crap worked for me too - not perfect but better than others.  I purchased some at REI for $3.50 just yesterday.  The sales guy at first looked at me like I was a little off when I asked for Cat Crap but when I mentioned its use he said "oh I remember now".

[Bob Wessner]

They should package it in a container that looks like a mini-litter box.

[ofreen]

Scott's No Fog Cloth works for me.

[SteveD CB500F]

Back to serious questions:

Getting the visor off my Arai is a real PITA!  Most of these remedies involve the inside of the visor and unless I can get a lot slicker at visor removal, I don't fancy my chances!

[burmashave]

Back to serious questions:
Getting the visor off my Arai is a real PITA!  Most of these remedies involve the inside of the visor and unless I can get a lot slicker at visor removal, I don't fancy my chances!

That's the only thing about my Arai that I don't like.  Arai has a Visor Instruction Video on their European site.  They show how the visor can be changed while on head; however, I am not at that advanced stage yet.

By the way, when you swap out the visor, it sounds as if it's breaking.  This is normal, even according to their literature.  The video shows the rider pulling the visor straight away from the helmet when removing; however, I find it's more of a lifting back move -- as if you are lifting the visor up beyond where it would normally stop.  Don't forget to let go of the levers after they click -- the visor won't come off if you keep pulling up on the levers while lifting the visor.

When installing, I place my hands on the visor close to where it slides into the bracket.  The trick here is to flex the visor just a bit (pushing in toward the helmet)  so that the visor slides into the brackets.  As the video shows, you should push the visor in firmly while wiggling it a bit until it locks.  I usually blow it here and attempt to slide the visor down before it's fully locked.

Glenn, if you think this warrants a FAQ, I'll write it up as a set of instructions with tips and links.

[SteveD CB500F]

Only the Japanese could design a helmet that needs a bloody video training aid on visor removal!!

[burmashave]

Only the Japanese could design a helmet that needs a bloody video training aid on visor removal!!

'Tis true.  The funny thing is that in the video the announcer continuously touts the Arai visor as "the only one that can be changed while the helmet is on the rider's head."  Forget about even attempting that, I'd be happy to be able to do a quick swap with the thing in my lap.

[turtle]

I never have a misting problem.
It must be a result of too much heavy breathing guys. 

[kghost]

GG: We used to use washing up liquid in the 70's! (how's the weather over there by the way? Any chance of riding one of those "desert bikes" that we see on the TV? I understand they are diesel(?) to fit in with the US's "one fuel for everything standard?

It actually works pretty well, since a diesel can run on pretty much anything, but a helo can only run on Aviation Fuel.  The diesel KLRs are sweet: 100+ MPG, tough as nails, reliable, and actually pretty fast.  I would LOVE one and there is a company selling them, but they run about $10K on the civvy market.

Hey I thought that it was the other way around, and that diesels were sensitive to fuels such as gas and alcohol but that turbine engines could run on diesel, gas, alcohol, kerosene or even hemp oil.

Very true. However some things coke the hell out of turbine blades...some things run at hotter temps.

Jet A is essensially kerosene with some handy additives.

For example...the Allison T-56 such as mounted on the 580 Convair, Lockeed P-3, Lockheed C-130 etc will run on 100 octane  but use must be recorded in the log and (if I recall) was limited to 100 hrs use  between overhauls

Garrett TPE-331 used on fairchild Metro's, Mitsubishi MU-2's Jetstream 31's, etc had the same limitation. 100 hrs between overhaul's maximum use of 100 octane.

[GroovieGhoulie]

Hey I thought that it was the other way around, and that diesels were sensitive to fuels such as gas and alcohol but that turbine engines could run on diesel, gas, alcohol, kerosene or even hemp oil.

I have a friend that has a diesel truck with a waste-oil conversion on it, and the original Diesel engine was designed to run on coal dust.  Apparently gasoline and alcohol and such would kill diesels because they burn too hot. 

JP-8 does fine in the trucks and such, but diesel would choke the turbines.

[hopterfixer]

I have co-workers that run their diesel vehicles on waste Jet-A.  You just have to throw in an oil additive, KGhost could probably back this up.  I throw away a lot of Jet-A  in fuel samples every day, maybe I should get a diesel....

[drlarryw]

Wow.  A lot of folk wisdom, but rather than spit, coat, notch, or hold my breath, I found a better solution.  My new Scorpion full face helmet [Snell and DOT, polycarb] comes with a fog-free shield.  Much to my great pleasure and surprise.....THE SHIELD DOES NOT FOG UP.  NEVER.  COLD.  HOT.  RAIN.  NEVER! [and, it is comfy and quiet].
And all for $140.  After a few weeks using it, I put on both my old Shoei and Arai helmets and within minutes on a cold morning, they were fogged over. How'd I ride for 30 years like that!!!
Larry in Boston

[kghost]

I have co-workers that run their diesel vehicles on waste Jet-A.  You just have to throw in an oil additive, KGhost could probably back this up.  I throw away a lot of Jet-A  in fuel samples every day, maybe I should get a diesel....

The oil is for injector/pump lubrication.

Diesel vehicles are compression ignition for the most part...hence the problem running on pump gas.

Turbines will run on diesel fuel..but as I said previously it will coke the blades of the turbine section.

[uny2]

Guys,

I just replace my visor with a heated one from the snowmobile dealer during the cold months.  I ride year round on my ATV, Snowmobile, and bike that way.

ED

[Bob Wessner]

Tried Googling for a link on heated visors. I came across this. Not heated, but interesting. Seems to function on the same principle as double glazed storm windows.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/anti-fog-visor/

[trinorman]

I've never tried this, but have heard good reports. 

USA availability
http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=17474

Manufacturer
http://www.respro.com/sportsleisure_roadracing.php