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Re: running issues
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2005, 05:20:19 PM »
I bought a pair of silicone cooking gloves and cut the fingers out of one. I will see if this works. They are supposed to withstand heat upto 500 degrees. 

I dont mind the work, I actually enjoy it, but I live in DEEP south texas (about 7 nautical miles for mexico). No one carries any parts for any bikes and if in need just a $5.00 part its a 1 or 2 week wait. I tackle one small problem and if I need a part that would take 15 minutes ot put on ......That is getting old. About the only thing the local guys stock around here is frame sliders and levers, which tells me a huge majority of the riders here suck...and frequently eat the pavement.

I dont even mind spending the money..as long as it is well spent.

THERE ARE NO CHEAP REPACEMENTS ON MY BIKE! Everything that I have put on my bike is better than what Honda put on.

This bike will run properly.

Don

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Re: running issues
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2005, 08:14:22 PM »
Upon rereading my latest reply I saw that it could seem like I thought I or my bike was under attack. That is the furthest thing from the meaning of what I typed. It was more of an agreement to what 2tired typed and my distaste for cheap inferior parts.

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Re: running issues
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2005, 12:09:52 AM »
Just to be clear.  I wasn't attacking anything or anybody.

The word cheap often has some negative conotations.  I guess I should have used another word in my horror story list.

About 7 or 8 years ago, I purchased from the Honda dealer, all four original pipes for my 74 CB550, which it hadn't had since 1975.  It was over $500 for the set.  Many people thought I was nuts (perhaps rightfully) for spending that much on the bike, when even the most expensive header system was only $300.  Further, I doubt I could get much more than $800 for the bike in a sale regardless of what exhaust was on it.   So, in my mind, any exhaust that cost less than the stock ones are "cheap" replacements. 

However, the real point of the story was that Honda adjusted the whole bike to work together properly.  The carb jetting, for example, was selected for operation with the stock pipes and air filter.
The people that made aftermarket exhaust systems didn't invest anywhere near the time and money Honda did to make the bike a good all around streetable machine.   Most didn't even mention that jetting would be effected and left the burden to figure out what the correct jetting was to the buyer, who may or may not have understood how to do that part.  In this way, they could sell their product and still make a profit.
When I put the stock pipes back on the 74, what I was amazed at was, every single book referenced setting and adjustment suddenly applied.  I undid years of tweaking and living with slight performance annoyances.  The bike just ran great and was responsive at any throttle setting.

I also learned that, although a 4 into 1 setup might have given me an extra 5 HP in the last 2000 RPM near redline, 95% of my street operation didn't need that 5 HP.   To me, being able to get reliable throttle response at ANY throttle position (even idle) was worth the 5 HP loss of potential power.

Lastly, the 74 CB550 carburetion is down right sloppy and, I think, way more forgiving to tweaks, or lack thereof when compared to what the 78 CB750 has in the carburetion department.  The early days of emission control were not kind to anybody modifying their machines from stock form for either the MC or Auto guys.  I've no doubt it can be done.  But, it will be interesting to see how yours turns out, Don.  I'm willing to help where I can.

Sorry this got long.
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Buffo

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Re: running issues
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2005, 06:39:33 PM »
I should get my chain tomarrow. At witch point I will attempt the maiden voyage.

I will be going without ANY lights as I took all the turn signals off, as well as the brake light. And the headlight assembly from some one one this site has not arrived as of yet... oh yeah I took off the front brake master cylinder cause it needed a rebuild.

But if UPS gets me my chain i will ride tomarrow...though it will be a short one.

Don

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Re: running issues
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2005, 11:05:43 AM »
Hey, Buffo.

I'm back in town. And have lots of parts. Call if you need help and I'll putt-putt down and help out.
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Re: running issues
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2016, 01:07:50 PM »
This old topic helped me a lot. I rebuild carbs on a CB750K7. The bike had been sitting in a garage for 20 years. The carbs was really clogged.  I installed everything in a big ultrasonic cleaner for a night. After that, I installed 4 new carbs kits. When I tried to start the bike, it was running only on 2 cylinders. I checked the spark plugs and the 2 that was not running was dry. Then I poured some fuel in the spark plug holes and those cylinders turned correctly for a few seconds. So I saw that it was a fuel problem. I saw this thread and checked the slow jet, and they was really clogged. I pulled them out and put them and the carbs another time in the ultrasonic cleaner.

I will check them carefuly before I'll put them back on the bike next week, but for sure, that was a problem.

Very good info here! Thanks!
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Re: running issues
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2016, 07:06:11 PM »
Kudos stou! You are a vanishing breed in that you actually searched for information!  8)  I find that solving my own problems can be very rewarding and often serves as a learning experience. I predict that you will find much satisfaction owning one of these (or any kind of) old bikes.

Many new users sign up and proceed to start new threads that have often been covered in depth. Some even get "bowed up" when the responses don't come instantaneously and in depth. Many of the issues are often corrected with a simple 3000 mile tune-up, but many are stumped by that since they haven't even looked at a manual yet. Bikes that have sat for extended periods often need even extra attention (as you have found) that often leads to so much frustration that some people just give up.  :(

Welcome aboard stou!  8)
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Re: running issues
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2016, 03:38:49 AM »
Thanks Wilbur!
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