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Offline yitzac1990

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carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« on: July 25, 2016, 07:35:48 PM »
Hello, I just rebuilt the carbs on my 1978 CB750K, got them all together (minus the slow jets, still waiting on those), and now the choke linkage/plates are sticking.  when I pull up on the choke linkage (as the cable would do when installed), the plates basically dont move, or move very slowly and very little.  any idea why this is happening?  Can anyone point me to some close up, detailed pictures of how the carbs assemble together in their "rack", specifically where the 2 choke linkages meet?  I tried searching, but couldn't find anything too detailed in that area, nor in the technical service manuals.

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Offline b52bombardier1

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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 04:38:53 AM »
Spray some oil on the choke shafts and work it. Mine did the same thing but are good now.

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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2016, 05:09:06 AM »
Ok ill give that a try later today.  Is it safe to say that over time they will "loosen up" as I run the carbs on the bike?
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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2016, 09:21:35 AM »
If you removed the choke plates during your rebuild, its possible they are shifted slightly and hanging on the carb throat walls.
To fix this, partially loosen the 8 choke plate screws so they can 'self-adjust' within the throat of the carb.  Lift the choke so the plates close, center the plates, and then gently tighten the screws.
There should be no contact between the plate edges and the cab throat walls.
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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2016, 04:26:18 PM »
Mine were stiff after sitting for years also.  I had to spray lube them twice but they did loosen up and do work right now.  Ron

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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2016, 04:31:32 PM »
If you removed the choke plates during your rebuild, its possible they are shifted slightly and hanging on the carb throat walls.
To fix this, partially loosen the 8 choke plate screws so they can 'self-adjust' within the throat of the carb.  Lift the choke so the plates close, center the plates, and then gently tighten the screws.
There should be no contact between the plate edges and the cab throat walls.

+1

There is no direct connection between the choke linkage and the choke plate shafts. The shafts that the choke plates mount to are spring driven and are very sensitive to any drag and/or misalignment. flybox1 has described a good corrective action.
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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2016, 09:29:37 PM »
got it guys.  i loosened up the 2 center plates and they instantly became free to move.  snugged the center plates back up and were good.  thanks all!!
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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2016, 03:43:07 AM »
got it guys.  i loosened up the 2 center plates and they instantly became free to move.  snugged the center plates back up and were good.  thanks all!!

Thanks for posting your resolution.  8)  Too many resolve their issue and never come back.  :(
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"Evolution": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=100352.0
"P.O. Debacle": http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,126692.msg1441661.html#msg1441661
F2/F3 O-rings: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113672.msg1300721#msg1300721
Cam Tower Studs: https://www.mcmaster.com/#93210a017/=t19sgp
Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,148188.msg1688494.html#msg1688494
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,110931.msg1248354.html#msg1248354
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204
Follow up on your damn posts: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,144305.msg1791605.html#msg1791605
Taiwanese Cam Chain Tensioners:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,155043.msg1774841.html#msg1774841
Gumtwo Seat Cover: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,164440.msg1897366.html#msg1897366
Primary Drive: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166063.msg1919278.html#msg1919278
Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2016, 06:32:11 AM »
Glad it was an easy fix!  ;D
'78 750K (F3 engine) PD42b's, Modified airbox w/K&N  filter, 40/110 jets, 1 needle shim, IMS@ 1 turn out. Kerker + Cone 18" QuietCore

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1974 550K0 (stock), 1973 CB350F (stock), 1983 Yamaha XS400K (POS)
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Offline yitzac1990

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Re: carb rebuild and now choke plates sticking/hard to open
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2016, 11:18:28 AM »
Thanks for posting your resolution.  8)  Too many resolve their issue and never come back.  :(

no problem, I know how it is....searching forums and someone has the same question, but no posted resolution!

on a side note, my work computer proxy blocks this forum and i cant do anything on here until I get home... so sad!
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