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1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« on: October 01, 2016, 05:17:56 AM »
I recently picked up this 1974 Eldorado popped up, with just under 25k miles.

It was being sold by the original owner's nephew, and even has the original PA title, which he kept when he got it transferred into his name after  his uncle passed.

The big ugly fairing has already be removed, but, I'm thinking that I'll refurbish the bags and keep them.   The lights even work!

It will, of course, need the chrome bore cylinders replaced or re-plated, and will need new exhaust.


Loaded up, heading home:
IMG_0076 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr
IMG_0075 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr

After removing the hideous fairing and bags.   The bags I'll keep, as they're pretty cool, but, they need to be painted.   I'm thinking black with white pinstripes to match the bike.
IMG_0114 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr

The pinstriping and logos are pretty worn, but, I'm not going to touch them.   They're only original once.
IMG_0097 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr

IMG_0098 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr
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IMG_0095 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr
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Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2016, 06:31:24 AM »
Nice score Jay.  Looks to be in really good, original cond and much better with that ugly fairing off! Consider painting the bags black, would look much cleaner.

My buddy has a '75 Guzzi that I always admire when I see it.

Maybe one day I will have one!
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2016, 07:47:44 AM »
Nice score Jay.  Looks to be in really good, original cond and much better with that ugly fairing off! Consider painting the bags black, would look much cleaner.

I am planning on painting the bags black, and pin striping them to match/complement the bike
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2016, 09:54:28 AM »
Nice score Jay.  Looks to be in really good, original cond and much better with that ugly fairing off! Consider painting the bags black, would look much cleaner.

I am planning on painting the bags black, and pin striping them to match/complement the bike


That is a great idea. 
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2016, 10:21:37 AM »
Yummy!

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2016, 12:50:22 PM »
Don't think I've ever seen one of those before, perhaps not available in the UK unless I missed it - the 70's were a fuzzy era for me!

I like it. At the risk of sounding sacrilegious, looks ripe for the cafe treatment to me.
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2016, 06:19:21 PM »
Don't think I've ever seen one of those before, perhaps not available in the UK unless I missed it - the 70's were a fuzzy era for me!

I like it. At the risk of sounding sacrilegious, looks ripe for the cafe treatment to me.

The Tonti-frame Guzzis are the best platform upon which to build a cafe.
http://www.kaffee-maschine.net/

Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2016, 01:34:19 PM »
Don't think I've ever seen one of those before, perhaps not available in the UK unless I missed it - the 70's were a fuzzy era for me!

I like it. At the risk of sounding sacrilegious, looks ripe for the cafe treatment to me.

The Tonti-frame Guzzis are the best platform upon which to build a cafe.
http://www.kaffee-maschine.net/

Thanks for posting that link, some nice looking bikes there. Always liked Guzzis but clearly not an aficionado! If I'm ever in the market for one, now I know what to look for!
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TRIBSA http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,160296.0.html

1977 CB750 F2
1958 Norton Model 99
2011 Triumph Street Triple 675

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2016, 04:25:29 PM »
Jay, any inside information on the V11? For sale close to me.

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2016, 07:12:25 PM »
Jay, any inside information on the V11? For sale close to me.

I'm not real familiar with the the spine-frame bikes, other than knowing I really like the way that they look.

Probably the best place to learn about them is http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/, which is a forum dedicated to the V11 Sport models.

And, of course, there is http://wildguzzi.com/.

I do know that the earlier ones had a single-plate clutch that was problematic, and that a multi-plate conversion is the way to go.

The Guzzi V11 Sport is a good bit heavier than your S2R, and, not quite as fast, but, still very rewarding to ride.    There is just something about a Guzzi  :D

Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2016, 05:14:34 AM »
Thanks Jay.

Speed is not an issue for me as I don't ride what I have close to it's potential. Yup, the V11 pushes 500 pounds and if I read correctly it had a mono plate in 2002.

I've been watching the ad and the bike is priced fair, low miles, original owner. Don't see many around my area. Speaking of area I would guess this would be an out of area sale. Majority here would shy away or think it's ugly. I have only seen one other Ducati (rough) over the last two years although some might be sitting in a garage.


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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2016, 05:39:36 AM »
What is the milage on it?
Maintenance/repair records?

It is possible that the mono-plate clutch may have already been replaced.

There are many different versions of the V11, some with larger, frame-mounted fairings, some with just a headlight cowl, some naked.

One I'm partial too is the Copa Italia.


The V11 LeMans has the full fairing (other variants might as well, I'm not real knowledgeable on these):


Many models of the V11 have Ohlins suspension from the factory, including the Copa Italia, Cafe Sport, and Nero Corsa to name a few.

Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2016, 05:48:40 AM »
Can't answer Jay, never called him. At least not yet.  ;D

10k on bike, service and parts books, factory race exhaust is all the ad states. Needs S100 treatment on the motor and a good detail. (Just me) Asking $3750. Low book $2800, high book $4000.

I don't need another motorcycle but we know how that goes. Would be a nice 68 TH birthday present.  ;)

http://mohave.craigslist.org/mcy/5808862381.html


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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2016, 05:56:29 AM »
The asking price is in the ballpark of what I typically see on these.   You could probably pick it up for a little less but, even at asking price it is fair deal, and a price you should be able to get back out of it when you're ready to move on.

Mileage is low for the year, which is also good.
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2016, 06:01:15 AM »
I thought it was fair as the Cali area is around a grand more. Probably why the ads are months old.  ;D

Yup, looks taken care of to me. Stand and books a plus.

Will see....

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2016, 10:13:19 AM »
Damn Jas, that's pretty. Now that I the GoldWing off my "someday' list the Guzzi has worked it's way to the top, that is unless I somehow stumble on a smoking local deal on a Royal Enfield Interceptor at the same time I have some cash on hand.
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2016, 07:45:13 PM »
Nice Eldo you have there I do like the Black & White.
I have a 1970 Ambo 750 in original condition, really enjoy riding that bike. Would like an Ambo for the Collection oneday  8)
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1972 Honda CB750/4 Under Restoration
1971 Honda CB500/4 Original Condition
1972 Honda CB350/4 Original Condition
1972 Honda XL250 Motorsport Under Restoration
1967 Honda C90 Original Condition
1968 Honda S90
1962 Triumph Speed Twin
1952 Triumph Speed Twin
1970 Bultaco Sherpa T
1971 Bultaco Alpina
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2016, 08:28:05 AM »
Damn Jas, that's pretty. Now that I the GoldWing off my "someday' list the Guzzi has worked it's way to the top, that is unless I somehow stumble on a smoking local deal on a Royal Enfield Interceptor at the same time I have some cash on hand.

Not a bad price, but way out of my range, which is $0 at the moment: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/mcy/5803766383.html
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2016, 02:37:20 PM »
Damn Jas, that's pretty. Now that I the GoldWing off my "someday' list the Guzzi has worked it's way to the top, that is unless I somehow stumble on a smoking local deal on a Royal Enfield Interceptor at the same time I have some cash on hand.

Not a bad price, but way out of my range, which is $0 at the moment: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/mcy/5803766383.html

Not a bad price? Really?!! Seems very high to me but I do not the values...
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2016, 02:55:16 PM »
Damn Jas, that's pretty. Now that I the GoldWing off my "someday' list the Guzzi has worked it's way to the top, that is unless I somehow stumble on a smoking local deal on a Royal Enfield Interceptor at the same time I have some cash on hand.

Not a bad price, but way out of my range, which is $0 at the moment: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/mcy/5803766383.html

Not a bad price? Really?!! Seems very high to me but I do not the values...

I was thinking the same thing on the price.     You can get some nice late 60's and early 70's Bonnevilles for $7k-$8k.


Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2016, 04:56:23 PM »
Damn Jas, that's pretty. Now that I the GoldWing off my "someday' list the Guzzi has worked it's way to the top, that is unless I somehow stumble on a smoking local deal on a Royal Enfield Interceptor at the same time I have some cash on hand.

Not a bad price, but way out of my range, which is $0 at the moment: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/mcy/5803766383.html

Not a bad price? Really?!! Seems very high to me but I do not the values...

I was thinking the same thing on the price.     You can get some nice late 60's and early 70's Bonnevilles for $7k-$8k.



And those are better bikes, right?  I think I would like one! Jay, you have a Triumph?
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2016, 07:28:58 PM »
And those are better bikes, right?  I think I would like one! Jay, you have a Triumph?

I don't know the vintage British bikes too well, other than they all seem to leak oil. 

I don't have any Triumphs, but, I'd love to have the new Thruxton R!


Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2016, 01:43:18 AM »
Re interceptor is known as more durable, dependable, and oil tight than a bonneville and strong performer, also rarer...no idea whether they command that much money.
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2016, 04:49:50 AM »
Re interceptor is known as more durable, dependable, and oil tight than a bonneville and strong performer, also rarer...no idea whether they command that much money.

Hmmmm, I didn't know that.    Thanks for educating me!

Certainly with today's models, the opposite is true.   Triumph has top notch quality, while, Royal Endfield, while improving, has a long way to go.   


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Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2016, 03:51:32 PM »
Interceptor was last model to be made in england...never built a twin in india
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2016, 02:57:33 PM »
The Interceptors are much rarer than the Bonnie's, which is part of the disparity. They have also increased in value substantially the past 5 or 6 years. The one in the ad is especially clean.
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2016, 01:24:02 AM »
Jay, any inside information on the V11? For sale close to me.

I can tell you most certainly, you will not regret getting the v11.
They're built like trucks, and the big block guzzi's run like a raped ape on the road.
Guzzi has a long history of crafting excellent motorcycles.
I drool over my pals collection of guzzi's every time I'm at his place.  They are solid machines.  Treat them well, they'll last you a long time.
If they have an achilles heel, it's the exhaust piping.  Apparently the torsion of the motor against the well secured pipes can make for the occassional leak at the head.

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2018, 05:51:02 PM »
Just an update.   The rebuild is complete.   It only needed, well, everything.



I'm not sure what the actual mileage was on this bike, but, the motor was very well worn out.  Thankfully, the original chrome bores were in good shape, so, no chrome flaked off to cause serious damage.    Still it took a 2nd undersize grind of the crank, cam and lifters were all reground.     Near bearings all around, new, nikasil, cylinders, pistons, rings, etc.    New valves & springs.    Rebuilt the carbs, new exhaust.   Transmission and final drive both torn down cleaned, a few bearings replaced, and near seals.     The u-joint was shot.    Some of the bearings were so bad that the caps had broken, and the needles fell out.   The yokes were pretty beat up, so, I ended up getting a new one instead of rebuilding the old one.

They say if you didn't spend more than the bike is worth to rebuild it, that you didn't do it right.    I guess I did it right.

It's a joy to ride, and makes some glorious sound under acceleration and up hills!

Next project on this bike is dual disk brakes up front.   I've got all the parts, plus, the forks on the disk brake bikes already have the mounts for the left side caliper.

I also scored a nice set of Wixom bags off eBay that just put on it this morning.

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« Last Edit: April 07, 2018, 05:53:33 PM by jas67 »
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2018, 06:15:41 PM »
super sweet...have always been fascinated by Guzzi's,  What's it like to ride?
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2018, 06:26:12 PM »
super sweet...have always been fascinated by Guzzi's,  What's it like to ride?

It's kinda like a cross between a BMW airhead and a Harley.    It's heavier than an airhead, but, lighter than a Harley.   The 90 degree V-twin has a lot more character than a BMW boxer.

The single disk brake is barely adequate.   The 2LS drum on my R75/5 has more stopping power.   The problem is that Guzzi used too big a master cylinder for a two piston F08 caliper.    I've got all the parts to add a second disk.   Dual disks with that master cylinder should work well.    I'm  hoping to tackle that job tomorrow.
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2018, 07:10:40 PM »
That machine is gorgeous.  Talk about a head-turner.  Any video of what it sounds like or looks like rolling? 
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2018, 08:30:06 PM »
 Congratulations on doing such a fine job.

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2018, 03:28:20 AM »
That machine is gorgeous.  Talk about a head-turner.  Any video of what it sounds like or looks like rolling? 

Not yet, but, I'll have to take some.

Congratulations on doing such a fine job.

Thank you!
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2018, 07:28:25 PM »
Dual disk upgrade complete!   It stops much better now!, though, the lever is a little spongy.    It might still have  a little air in it the the system somewhere.   It was a real b**ch to get fluid flowing initially, even though the master cylinder was working fine before I drained the fluid out to add the line for the second caliper.

I added it by changing out the banjo bolt at the brake sensor for a double, so, now the right turn signal bracket won't go back on w/o either cutting it (the long part that engages a tab on the back of the bottom triple clamp to keep it from turning), or making a replacement that bumps out around the banjo bolt.   (I need to take pics of this if anyone really cares about the details).


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Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2018, 10:10:39 AM »
 That bike has serious style and I love the double disc. Your M/C will have the same pressure but more travel now because it's moving two pistons. On my 76F I liked that, it gave excellent braking feel.

   I had trouble bleeding that one too, Try the rubber bands on the lever overnight trick. I saw a picture taken at Yoshimura's shop and they had a racing brake setup assembled on the bench being bled that way. If it's good for them, it's good for me.
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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2018, 11:42:19 AM »
That bike has serious style and I love the double disc. Your M/C will have the same pressure but more travel now because it's moving two pistons. On my 76F I liked that, it gave excellent braking feel.

   I had trouble bleeding that one too, Try the rubber bands on the lever overnight trick. I saw a picture taken at Yoshimura's shop and they had a racing brake setup assembled on the bench being bled that way. If it's good for them, it's good for me.

I'll try the rubber band trick (or a zip tie).   Thanks!
Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado

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Re: 1974 Moto Guzzi Eldorado
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2018, 04:34:37 PM »
The rubber band trick worked, I got 'em bled pretty well now.   The dual disk upgrade was well worth it.   And spring finally arrived!       :grin:

I do think that the Wixoms are the best looking bags on Loop Frame Guzzis!

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Classic Honda:
1976 CB400F
1975 CB400F (project)
1975 GL1000
1968 CL175 (1 nice one, one project)
1967 CB77
1967 CB160 (2 of 'em, both projects)
1967 CL160 project
Triumph: 2017 Thruxton R
BMW: 2016 R1200RS, 1975 R90S, 1973 R75/5, 1980 R100S
Ducati: 2013  Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE track beast, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450, 1966 Monza 250
Moto Morini: 1975 (titled 1976) 3 1/2 Strada, w/ Sport clipons.
Moto Guzzi: 2017 V7III Special,  1977 Le Mans, 1974 Eldorado