Topic: The Amalgam: honda past meets present, take 2! or 3?

[bill440cars]

     

While i wait for parts i started on my headlight bracket. Still needs work but you get the idea

      Oh yeah, nice and tidy looking there. I, among others I'm sure, anxiously waiting on your parts too.   

[jag767]

     

While i wait for parts i started on my headlight bracket. Still needs work but you get the idea

      Oh yeah, nice and tidy looking there. I, among others I'm sure, anxiously waiting on your parts too.   

Haha I'm sure i could start building the downtubes now, but i want to verify the chain fitment to be on the safe side. I decided to space the sprocket 1/4 inch from stock rather that bring the motor any more to the right. I dont see it causing any issues that way, especially since I should be within 1mm on alignment, which im assuming is "close enough".

I may mount my taillight tomorrow while i continue to wait. I got a fun one 

[bill440cars]

Haha I'm sure i could start building the downtubes now, but i want to verify the chain fitment to be on the safe side. I decided to space the sprocket 1/4 inch from stock rather that bring the motor any more to the right. I dont see it causing any issues that way, especially since I should be within 1mm on alignment, which im assuming is "close enough".

I may mount my taillight tomorrow while i continue to wait. I got a fun one 

           Don't blame you for waiting for the parts, so you can be sure of alignment and all, but now you have gotten my curiosity going, concerning that taillight. But, I guess you realize that, right? 

[jag767]

Haha I'm sure i could start building the downtubes now, but i want to verify the chain fitment to be on the safe side. I decided to space the sprocket 1/4 inch from stock rather that bring the motor any more to the right. I dont see it causing any issues that way, especially since I should be within 1mm on alignment, which im assuming is "close enough".

I may mount my taillight tomorrow while i continue to wait. I got a fun one 

           Don't blame you for waiting for the parts, so you can be sure of alignment and all, but now you have gotten my curiosity going, concerning that taillight. But, I guess you realize that, right? 

Haha you'll have to wait and see. I'm trying to figure out if I can mount it in an interesting way, but it may have to wait til I have wheels.

[jag767]

Getting the sprockets tomorrow, now I have to get this old one off, it's really stuck on, may throw a little heat on there. If I did everything right (I took the difference in thickness between a 530 and 520 sprocket into account) I should have near perfect alignment. I still need to make a roller for the chain to clear the swingarm pivot, but that should be easy.

I'm very eager to start the downtubes, the design I'm going to go with is basically the same as the sohc 750. I will continue the downtubes up to the neck, then make a crossbar to T across between them, and will weld it into the little stub of single downtube remaining. Should be plenty strong.

[jag767]

A little teaser

[vfourfreak]

A steampunk headlight ? Cool.

Kev

[bill440cars]

A little teaser

           Oh yeah, uh huh, get our attention, with 1 little photo.    LOL. seriously, from what we can see, looking good there, just that we are anxiously awaiting for more. Not trying to Push, mind you. Just seriously enjoying this build and anticipating the finished product and "Road Test". 

[RAFster122s]

So, how much(if I may ask) was the 500r motor and where /how did you find it?
I presume it was from a wrecked bike.  Just expect a wrecked bike taking damage to the motor.
David

[jag767]

The left side is all done and partially welded in place

[jag767]

A steampunk headlight ? Cool.

Kev

That headlight is just for mockup, the real one will be the same size, just not that color.

[jag767]

A little teaser

           Oh yeah, uh huh, get our attention, with 1 little photo.    LOL. seriously, from what we can see, looking good there, just that we are anxiously awaiting for more. Not trying to Push, mind you. Just seriously enjoying this build and anticipating the finished product and "Road Test". 

Haha, working on it. I should have the downtubes finished and braced in about a week.

[jag767]

So, how much(if I may ask) was the 500r motor and where /how did you find it?
I presume it was from a wrecked bike.  Just expect a wrecked bike taking damage to the motor.
David

The motor was a steal, 600 shipped with 3k on it. Ebay seller provided video of it running in the damaged bike, and a compression test.  Motor itself was unscathed.

[RAFster122s]

Can hardly rebuild a motor for that much...great deal.

[jag767]

Can hardly rebuild a motor for that much...great deal.

That played a big role in this concept actually. Fuel injected, water cooled, and costs less than rebuilding the 450 that was in there.

[bill440cars]

Can hardly rebuild a motor for that much...great deal.

That played a big role in this concept actually. Fuel injected, water cooled, and costs less than rebuilding the 450 that was in there.

       That WAS quite a good deal, on that motor. I hope you are able to do a video of the Road Test of this one. Really a Very Cool build. Glad we can "Tag Along", while you put This One together. Thank Youi for the opportunity.   

[jag767]

Alignment is spot on, now I can work on the downtubes with it broken down, and will just shuffle the motor in and out to verify fitment.

[jag767]

Can hardly rebuild a motor for that much...great deal.

That played a big role in this concept actually. Fuel injected, water cooled, and costs less than rebuilding the 450 that was in there.

       That WAS quite a good deal, on that motor. I hope you are able to do a video of the Road Test of this one. Really a Very Cool build. Glad we can "Tag Along", while you put This One together. Thank Youi for the opportunity.   

 

[vfourfreak]

I would not be at all surprised if our friends in Honda Tokyo were following this also. It's such a good idea.

Kev

[bill440cars]

I would not be at all surprised if our friends in Honda Tokyo were following this also. It's such a good idea.

Kev

           I doubt that it would happen, but would be cool if there was a "Kit" on the Market, To make it so a person could Buy and "Build Their Own". Could start a whole new trend. 

          I'm anxious to see and hear, how this combo works out, myself. 

[jag767]

I would not be at all surprised if our friends in Honda Tokyo were following this also. It's such a good idea.

Kev

When it's done the fit and finish will be leagues better than an oem honda on the showroom floor. Maybe it'll find its way into a honda exhibit somewhere with a free trip for its owner? 

Or, if someone from honda is listening, I'd love some "sponsored" parts to cut down on my costs for refinishing the motor. Maybe donate a left over '15 cbr500r for me to hack up??? A guy can dream haha.

[jag767]

I would not be at all surprised if our friends in Honda Tokyo were following this also. It's such a good idea.

Kev

           I doubt that it would happen, but would be cool if there was a "Kit" on the Market, To make it so a person could Buy and "Build Their Own". Could start a whole new trend. 

          I'm anxious to see and hear, how this combo works out, myself. 

I guess if it turns out great and there are those that like it, I could build more than one? Only thing is the parts cost alone would be high, I'm not sure how many people out there would want to spend the pesos on it. All done I will have spent around 10 to 12k including paint, powdercoat, plating, and polishing. I will have something like 300 hours into the first one, but I think I could cut that in half for the second. That's assuming I am building something very close to the first one, same motor, frame, etc.

[jag767]

Strengthening the backbone is very straight forward once i looked at it, just need some larger OD tubing and i can cut it up and piece it in. Should be strong as hell. I chopped as much as i could out of the bottom of the frame so the motor goes in and out easier.  Its a tight fit, but the best way i found is scissor jack the front and rear of the frame way high, put the motor in turned 90°, then rotate it and lower the frame down slowly. It all clears, only just. I have to strengthen the rear lower mount after chopping the #$%* out of it. The radiator now fits as if it was made for the frame, and the hoses route easy enough. I have a long list of welding to do, but i will start by getting the other downtube completed.

[bill440cars]

     Whoa, after looking closer into this build, I can better see how this IS quite an undertaking and the Cost, along with what all has to be done, might deter some from attempting to go this route, might be Some who would. Do you think it might be possible that after going through the process, like you did, You might see where you might be able see where you could possibly be able to do another one a bit easier? You know, like you might realize that there might be some ways to accomplish the transformation a little easier, using the knowledge and experience from this build? Some things work out that way, I wasn't sure about this one. You are the only one who could answer that question. Just curious. I sure can't afford one, but thought it might be helpful to someone who might consider it.    I am amazed myself, at the efforts you have put forth, to accomplish this build.  And allowing Us to go along with you, while doing this. 

[jag767]

     Whoa, after looking closer into this build, I can better see how this IS quite an undertaking and the Cost, along with what all has to be done, might deter some from attempting to go this route, might be Some who would. Do you think it might be possible that after going through the process, like you did, You might see where you might be able see where you could possibly be able to do another one a bit easier? You know, like you might realize that there might be some ways to accomplish the transformation a little easier, using the knowledge and experience from this build? Some things work out that way, I wasn't sure about this one. You are the only one who could answer that question. Just curious. I sure can't afford one, but thought it might be helpful to someone who might consider it.    I am amazed myself, at the efforts you have put forth, to accomplish this build.  And allowing Us to go along with you, while doing this. 

It'd be really hard to cut dollars out of the parts, especially considering i got some really good deals on a few of them. Also keep in mind im not going crazy on any of the components, just decent stuff. I guess if one were to do the paint, powdercoat, and polishing themselves it would cut back costs, but i am looking for a show worthy finish so i want someone else to do it. The amount of time would be the biggest difference. I could get to where i am and take half as long without some of the trial and error.