Topic: Tolerance of other users here, just be decent to one another

[ElCheapo]

I have said it once, but I will say it again. Please read as I have taken serious time and effort to get this right.

I have no true dislike or hate for anyone here or anywhere else. These things drain energy needed for things like working on bikes or furthering our careers. I would have to say that the time off from this forum (moderator induced and was glad to have it happen after the fact) has been good for me. I have set some loose rules for my posts and number of posts. I have to admit at times I was monopolizing the conversation with rapid fire responses. I will not go into those rules right now, but I am sure whatever they are the mods are glad the mystical change is there. My wife does say "When you get all fired up, you give them power over you".

After all what good is a forum that just aggravates you? This is a bit like a bike that never runs when you need it to. I am sure there are a few users that just decided not, permanently or just for now to participate because of some users. If I have pushed anyone away I apologize at the highest level for any part I may have in this.

I did not “hate” RatFink. I just had a problem that fact that he seemed to chase me around the board to nail some of my posts with a less than desirable retort. He is where he is and that is all there is too it. Beating on him in text really solves nothing and will not help him or any other user. I really won't help anyone beat on him either. However I am not against others showing displeasure in any members activities when they disrupt the board flow overall (INCLUDING ME). No one user should ever be allowed to do this. This group of forums is about a community of users, not one or a group of bully users who push others around and make the forum to their liking. This is never ok. We can share our common knowledge base and a bit of comedy without bashing each other.

Most people who make jokes about the handicapped or other groups do not mean a personal dig at your sensabilities. It is just meant to be funny most times. Like 99.9% of the time around here. I have worked with Alzheimer's patients (as an Eagle Scout in my teens), I have made jokes in the past about them, My grandfather now has Alzheimer's, I still make the jokes. Sometimes we joke to make something not hurt so much. Understand one users taste in humour might not be yours.

We need to respect other members opinions (right or wrong in our eyes) especially in the “OPEN FORUM”.

[ProTeal55]

I love you Tom 

[Rushoid]

I love you Tom 

Awww......

 

BTW, nicely said EC.

[ElCheapo]

Thanks guys 

[ieism]

You haven't become a Buddhist, have you?     Nice post though, sometimes i've seen you arguing over here, but basically you seem like a decent guy. Listen to the wife! This is just the internet, it's not worth it wasting time fighting with somebody you can't have make-up-sex with.

[Rushoid]

...wasting time fighting with somebody you can't have make-up-sex with.

Well, ProTeal seems pretty fond of him! 

[cafehonda]

Who are you and what have you done with El Cheapo?

[eldar]

Alright dammit! Who threw this warm fuzzy thing on me!

[dusterdude]

I love you Tom 

me too man

[Jonesy]

You haven't become a Buddhist, have you?     

Well, Tom did say once that he was becoming Zen....

I agree. Very excellent job of putting that sentiment into words. Nicely done!

[Raul CB750K1]

Yep, Tom was very easy to hairtrigger in the past. I'm glad he has become more cold blooded lately. Is it maybe because Christmas is coming? 


Raul

[Rsnip988]

I feel another Manly group hug coming on.....






oops we missed it...


nicely said Cheapie

RKS

[heffay]

After all what good is a forum that just aggravates you? This is a bit like a bike that never runs when you need it to. I am sure there are a few users that just decided not, permanently or just for now, to participate because of some users.

if i may, i'd like to tell you guys a couple of stories about internet forums that i have left.

the first was kawasakiforums.com.  it is a valuable resource just like this site, BUT.  when i noticed an avatar of one of the moderators showed a picture of Tran Duc Long (viet nam prez) with the word DIE photoshopped over it, it offended me greatly.  not because i like the guy but, wishing death on someone is not something that i thought a member (moderator especially) should be saying with his avatar.  i told him so and asked nicely if he would change it.  the only reply was from him saying that unless others had a dislike for his avatar then he would exercise his right of free speech.  no-one spoke up and i left the forum because what he had to say mattered more than offending a user that he moderates.  what i'm saying is... being offensive is BEING OFFENSIVE whether you are right, wrong or it just doesn't friggin matter.  and, being offensive does not make you friends, liked or enjoyable to be around so, if you are offensive, expect others to leave you arguing your stupid point... alone.

the other story is from ex500riders.com.  one of the members was full of great bits of info and knowledge very much like our long lost twotired.  now imagine our twotired, with every post he makes, belittles whoever is asking for help and makes them feel dumb for wanting to learn about their motorcycle.  everyone on the forum noticed and many spoke out about it.  it pissed me off so much that i spent my last few weeks on that forum telling him how much of an a$$ he was, then i left. 

[Rsnip988]

"the first was kawasakiforums.com.  it is a valuable resource just like this site, BUT.  when i noticed an avatar of one of the moderators showed a picture of Tran Duc Long (viet nam prez) with the word DIE photoshopped over it,"

If he refused to remove it yuo should have posted his pic with die or @$$ photoshopped on it

haha  it would probably be offensive but I would have laughed


RKS

[6pkrunner]

And given that the lines of being offended and being offensive have blurred and grayed so much in the last 15 years, there are things that anyone can find fault with, or can easily offend with. How and why political correctness was allowed to mutate into this massive beast it is today is bewildering. It takes so very little to upset someone lately. And being the internet with no face to face involvement, this seems to have produced an army of keyboard commandos who form a personality most unlike themselves if you actually met them. Anonyminity has given them Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde traits.

One man's offending item is another man's joke.

[Rsnip988]

i know waht you mean 6pk


RKS

[ElCheapo]

Who are you and what have you done with El Cheapo?

Well it was Raul's comment in a thread I started earlier about getting sued. He pointed out that I was having a lose-lose tone. I decided I liked the win-win one much better. Plus spouting off like an a$$ I am sure I will have some followers on any given subject. This ruins the tone of the board overall and makes people hostile and ready to fight. Sort of divides the board for a full scale war like we last saw.  So there is some responsibility that comes with my participation. I don't want any of my would be "fans" to ever be in the crossfire because of my big mouth. 

[Uncle Ernie]

No worries there. As my father used to say, "You can always tell the rats- they're the first to leave a sinking ship."