Author Topic: Palepainter's 750f project.. Al Fine' (Read 62248 times)

palepainter · « **Reply #25 on:** November 12, 2016, 08:42:28 PM »

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on November 12, 2016, 07:57:37 PM

I admire your ingenuity but the fairing appears to lack aerodynamic efficiency. It begs to have a better air flow.

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.

Bit of work with the shrinker...some wheeling. Ready for the wind tunnel.

palepainter · « **Reply #26 on:** November 12, 2016, 09:01:42 PM »

I built this one about 10 years ago. It had people shaking their heads to for a while as well. But I will admit. I am not sold on it yet, just am not giving up on it yet either.

budman · « **Reply #27 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:28:41 AM »

At first I wasn't sure, but I like the fairing. It has a retro, Buck Rogers sort of thing going on. If you carry that vibe into the rest of the bike and it's done well, which I'm sure you will, it'll look great...and unique.

Are you planning on a small wind screen?

Lostboy Steve · « **Reply #28 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:40:35 AM »

Just seeing this now. Very cool idea and execution for the fairing.

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palepainter · « **Reply #29 on:** November 13, 2016, 12:30:07 PM »

Quote from: budman on November 13, 2016, 07:28:41 AM

At first I wasn't sure, but I like the fairing. It has a retro, Buck Rogers sort of thing going on. If you carry that vibe into the rest of the bike and it's done well, which I'm sure you will, it'll look great...and unique.

Are you planning on a small wind screen?

Thanks Budman. Ya, it has that Buck Rogers, bobba fett feel to it.

I am going to fabricate a section that continues the lines into a bubbled area that will go over the tach. Not sure it will have a traditional clear acrylic windscreen.

754 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 13, 2016, 06:28:17 PM »

I am not a metal former per se, but ai am not seeing how a wheel will help that much..sometimes
Simpler to start with a fresh sheet of 3003 or whatever alloy.
I think the Victory one can be bought..yes ? Or tried for a yay or nay
The Z1R fairing I suggested is of a type that is easy on the handforming scale..
If you make your own out of aluminum, it would really look the business.
Did you look at the simple flyscreens that are out there..some nice Triumph ones..

palepainter · « **Reply #31 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:10:43 PM »

I appreciate the concern. I have been fabricating and painting for nearly 35 years. This isn't my first rodeo.

I am posting progress to simply share my build, that includes the way in which I chose to aesthetically. I do agree that it is something that isn't the norm, that is why I chose to do things the way I do. Sure, I can go buy an Emgo or multitude of other run of the mill fairing. But that isn't how I roll.

Just humor me for a while as I try to do something different. Some more photos to help assure that I have been on this road before.

The victory one can be purchased but wont work on the Honda for many different reasons. It is actually one year only. A few hundred made and are quite hard to find. It is originally designed to hold an acrylic windscreen.

palepainter · « **Reply #32 on:** November 13, 2016, 07:38:13 PM »

I will add that the only one I have seen out there that I liked, was this one. I am not sure of the manufacturer though. Any ideas?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quarter-Fairing-Cafe-Racer-Honda-Harley-Norton-Yamaha-Screen-Windshield-/112193689775?hash=item1a1f43d8af:g:2tYAAOSwNRdX8TdK&vxp=mtr

754 · « **Reply #33 on:** November 13, 2016, 09:23:32 PM »

Quite similar to the Z1R, minus the bar cutouts, and easier to make than some of the others.

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #34 on:** November 14, 2016, 08:00:39 AM »

Keep at it pp. Let's see what develops.

budman · « **Reply #35 on:** November 14, 2016, 09:20:14 AM »

What might look cool is if you carried the fairing up and over with a hard break and had the tach and maybe a couple of switches mounted into what looked like an old timey dashboard.

Maybe a smaller tach...

palepainter · « **Reply #36 on:** November 14, 2016, 10:44:21 AM »

Quote from: budman on November 14, 2016, 09:20:14 AM

What might look cool is if you carried the fairing up and over with a hard break and had the tach and maybe a couple of switches mounted into what looked like an old timey dashboard.

Maybe a smaller tach...

Did I mention I am a cheap, thrifty bastard. Wifey only lets me have so much allowance out of my earnings.

So the tach stays.

palepainter · « **Reply #37 on:** November 14, 2016, 07:52:51 PM »

Tonight, the clip on arrived. I slapped them on to see how much more comfortable they may be, if any. It made a difference. Now I can move forward with the rest of the work on the fairing.

Question, does the indexing pin on the controls need to be there in order to secure position of the controls on the bars? Are the clamps on the controls strong enough with out pin? Or should I drill the bars?

Thanks in advance.

754 · « **Reply #38 on:** November 14, 2016, 09:08:59 PM »

They help if your wiring is in the bars, them turning in a spill can shear the wires.
If you run wires external, pull the pin, it has straight knurl on it..grab with visegrips, tap a small hammer on the jaw.
The screws should hokd the control halves just fine.. Ideally Ibtry to set them so you can just turn by stiff hand pressure, then f you drop it..lever may survive..

palepainter · « **Reply #39 on:** November 15, 2016, 07:44:59 AM »

Quote from: 754 on November 14, 2016, 09:08:59 PM

They help if your wiring is in the bars, them turning in a spill can shear the wires.
If you run wires external, pull the pin, it has straight knurl on it..grab with visegrips, tap a small hammer on the jaw.
The screws should hokd the control halves just fine.. Ideally Ibtry to set them so you can just turn by stiff hand pressure, then f you drop it..lever may survive..

Thanks 754. Out they go. The only wire running in the bars are for the bar end turn signals.

palepainter · « **Reply #40 on:** November 15, 2016, 07:20:57 PM »

I made some progress this evening on the fairing. Using the English wheel and shrinker, I made the center back bone. Then made templates for pie wedge on each side. Tacked it all up. Will doing some hammer welding on the final seam after I fit the side piece I mocked up in cardboard. Coming together.

palepainter · « **Reply #41 on:** November 17, 2016, 02:11:47 PM »

I finished up the metal templates for the fairing the tail section. I may be able to get most of the welding done over weekend. Painting another CB750 for a friend this weekend as well.

palepainter · « **Reply #42 on:** November 20, 2016, 01:57:02 PM »

This morning, I spent going through the controls. Blasting, and lubricating the switches. Then I mounted all the electronics and levers into placed in order to figure out how much clearance I needed for the sides of fairing. I modified the side cover on left side. The one on the right needs some structural repair.

I have a question on the throttle side control. There is the rotary kill switch, then a small horizontal slide that simply says ON/OFF. What does that switch control? The switch is not stock for the 76 SS. Came off 75 K I believe.

Thanks!!

calj737 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2016, 05:40:47 AM »

Headlight power.

palepainter · « **Reply #44 on:** November 21, 2016, 07:29:41 AM »

Thank you Sir!!!

martin99 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 21, 2016, 02:35:31 PM »

Love what you're doing with that fairing. Have to admit, the first pics you posted of that cut down tank on there I thought 'WTF' and thought I would just be polite and not comment, and now it's metamorphosised and it's growing on me. It's got a kind of 'Predator' look to it. Always hard to picture another person's vision but looking at your previous work you definitely have an eye, and skills to match, and it will all meld together in the end. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to how this one comes out.

palepainter · « **Reply #46 on:** November 21, 2016, 03:48:39 PM »

Quote from: martin99 on November 21, 2016, 02:35:31 PM

Love what you're doing with that fairing. Have to admit, the first pics you posted of that cut down tank on there I thought 'WTF' and thought I would just be polite and not comment, and now it's metamorphosised and it's growing on me. It's got a kind of 'Predator' look to it. Always hard to picture another person's vision but looking at your previous work you definitely have an eye, and skills to match, and it will all meld together in the end. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to how this one comes out.

Thanks Martin. And to be completely honest, when I first started, I wasn't sure as well.

It was an idea to keep the lines of the bike continuous. I wasn't really committed until I got the center section fabbed up over the tach. I feel much better with it now. The only thing I am not sure of yet is if I will use this steel version or make a mold and cast one in fiber glass. Still up in the air on that. And I suppose, while I am going that far, I may as well mold the tail section as well and make it glass also.

Lostboy Steve · « **Reply #47 on:** November 21, 2016, 06:58:43 PM »

I vote for a rocketeer helmet style fin on the very top of the fairing.

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JoeCooley · « **Reply #48 on:** November 22, 2016, 02:11:43 PM »

Cool build so far! I've always like quarter fairings. It kinda has that 1940's rocketeer feel.

palepainter · « **Reply #49 on:** November 28, 2016, 04:58:22 PM »

Tonight, started the final welding on tail. Ran out of gas half way through. Don't know which is worse. Running out of beer or welding gas.

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Author Topic: Palepainter's 750f project.. Al Fine' (Read 62248 times)