Topic: Oh Baby, it's cold outside! Now it's hot! WTF?? NOW FREEZING - AGAIN!

[scottly]

Per, there are very good programs on american PBS regarding the environment and history.
https://www.pbs.org/video/carbon-car-tailpipe-solid-chunks/

[Tracksnblades1]

There are interesting tv programs where historians and scientists have found repeating climate changes during thousands of years and more. El Niño, not a new phenomenon.

Viasat History and even Netflix have shown very interesting new program series the last 2-3 years.

The Akkadians in the Middle east had a severe dry period of 200-300 years around 2300 BC. No one could live there, all had to leave. Again 1200BC....it still happen while people has made that to a political leverage.

When the Angkor area in Cambodia had a monster monsoon with heavy floods in the 1400's,  Europe had a mini ice age. Etc etc.

People can handle that better today when food can be delivered from functional parts of the world to not functional.

Edit: 2300BC (not 23000)

-7*f night before. 7*f above tonight…

Exactly on the historical perspective….just a nanosecond of actual documentation to determine the butterfly’s actual effect on millennia of millenniums. (See chaos theory)

Some experts claim the recent California fires have already spewed more co, co2, etc, and particulates into the atmosphere that all the catalytic converters and dpf filters will ever convert or trap…Mt.. St. Helen was a good example too.. Man’s arrogances are always amazing..

Brings to mind a saying Carl Seagan may have said,   “if it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be destroyed by the truth”..   sometimes defined as it’s hard to go against the establishments’ accepted, political, and published views, until the truth (more accurate knowledge and understanding ) becomes so apparent that the new truths (beliefs) are so undeniable and obvious they destroy the older truths (beliefs).. it is usually constantly reoccurring over and over as we become more educated and intelligent. But the same arrogances and resistances will be met to prevent change. As well as the same reservations to buck the beliefs of the accepted establishments’s views. Even though all the professionals in the respective fields already knows and have proven those earlier beliefs to be false but remain silent for fear of the political retribution directed at them for doing so..

[BenelliSEI]

-7F here this am too. COLD.

[PeWe]

Independent of reason why weather is this or that, it is good to be prepared. Will we get an ice age or a little warmer?

I vote for warmer
Anyway, it is a good idea to ride our bikes as much we can as long as we can

[WhyNot2]

Independent of reason why weather is this or that, it is good to be prepared. Will we get an ice age or a little warmer?

I vote for warmer
Anyway, it is a good idea to ride our bikes as much we can as long as we can

here, here

[Mark1976]

-7F here this am too. COLD.

   It got down to -8 this morning, by the time I climbed outta bed around 7am it was still -6. Brrrrrr.....

[RAFster122s]

 

[Stev-o]

-7F here this am too. COLD.

   It got down to -8 this morning, by the time I climbed outta bed around 7am it was still -6. Brrrrrr.....

My buddy in MI sent me a message yesterday morning, it was -7 yesterday in south central MI too!  That is just plain frigid!!

Question:  Is -7 really any different than say, 10 degrees?!  Both are literally frikken freezing!

In contrast, a hot summer day in TX can reach 105F, but it doesnt feel much different that say 98, both are frikken hot!!  Do the extreme numbers play a head game on us?

[Mark1976]

-7F here this am too. COLD.

   It got down to -8 this morning, by the time I climbed outta bed around 7am it was still -6. Brrrrrr.....

My buddy in MI sent me a message yesterday morning, it was -7 yesterday in south central MI too!  That is just plain frigid!!

Question:  Is -7 really any different than say, 10 degrees?!  Both are literally frikken freezing!

In contrast, a hot summer day in TX can reach 105F, but it doesnt feel much different that say 98, both are frikken hot!!  Do the extreme numbers play a head game on us?

   I suppose it depends on the individual. 10 degrees is cold but not COLD, once it starts getting below zero, its getting cold. Throw in some wind and its really freaking cold, we've not had any wind this year with the cold so its manageable. Up to about 60 yrs of age, I was pretty active, ran and rode (bicycle) year round, but the past 7 yrs not so much, ya get a little tired of adjusting and dressing because of the extremes. last summer I didn't run at all, too hot period (I used to love running in the heat). I don't think it's a head game per say, we just become less tolerant of the extremes and then think to ourselves, "I don't ever remember it being this way." It is warmer earlier and way later in the year these days, this past fall was the warmest and driest I have ever experienced in the NE. So for me, yeah, getting older is a daily recalibration with what was vs what is...

[RAFster122s]

Frostbite sets in quicker at lower temps, as does hypothermia if sweating or not dressed for temps...

[Kevin D]

I live in SE Michigan, somewhere in that green circle. Once the lakes are cooled and frozen it might stop snowing. I see some ice in Green Bay, WI and a little shore ice near Chicago.

[scottly]

It was 5* here this morning! That makes 10 days this month with single digit temps. I went back through my records to 2016 to see how many times this had happened in the recent past:
2024 1 day
2023 0 days
2022 0 days
2021 1 day
2020 0 days
2019 3 days (on 1-1, the low was .5*, on 1-2, the low was 2.3*, and on 1-3, the low was 7*)
2018 1 day
2017 0 days
2016 1 day
This summer had extremely high temps, and I didn't light the furnace pilot until the middle of October this year, instead of the middle of September as usual.

[grcamna2]

-7F here this am too. COLD.

   It got down to -8 this morning, by the time I climbed outta bed around 7am it was still -6. Brrrrrr.....

My buddy in MI sent me a message yesterday morning, it was -7 yesterday in south central MI too!  That is just plain frigid!!

Question:  Is -7 really any different than say, 10 degrees?!  Both are literally frikken freezing!

In contrast, a hot summer day in TX can reach 105F, but it doesnt feel much different that say 98, both are frikken hot!!  Do the extreme numbers play a head game on us?

   I suppose it depends on the individual. 10 degrees is cold but not COLD, once it starts getting below zero, its getting cold. Throw in some wind and its really freaking cold, we've not had any wind this year with the cold so its manageable. Up to about 60 yrs of age, I was pretty active, ran and rode (bicycle) year round, but the past 7 yrs not so much, ya get a little tired of adjusting and dressing because of the extremes. last summer I didn't run at all, too hot period (I used to love running in the heat). I don't think it's a head game per say, we just become less tolerant of the extremes and then think to ourselves, "I don't ever remember it being this way." It is warmer earlier and way later in the year these days, this past fall was the warmest and driest I have ever experienced in the NE. So for me, yeah, getting older is a daily recalibration with what was vs what is...

Yeah, the wind is what really makes it too cold,for me.

[HondaMan]

My wife is cold if it is less than 68 degrees.
She's hot, though, when it gets above 76 degrees.

[Mark1976]

My wife is cold if it is less than 68 degrees.
She's hot, though, when it gets above 76 degrees.

Tru dat!!!