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New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« on: December 09, 2016, 08:04:00 PM »
'Tis the Season for all the scumbags to crawl out of the woodwork!  >:(  Spread the word.

http://6abc.com/news/warning-new-scam-targets-amazon-holiday-shoppers/1648251/
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Re: New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2016, 08:09:21 PM »
Meanwhile Amazon corp is scamming their staff.  Rather than offer traditional overtime pay, they coerced the staff into accepting a grueling holiday work schedule at a marginally higher rate of pay.  And time off is now a voluntary act the staff must request, instead of a compulsory law the employer must abide.

I hate corporate america and their mooks.  Really pisses me off.

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Re: New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2016, 03:27:33 AM »
Meanwhile Amazon corp is scamming their staff.  Rather than offer traditional overtime pay, they coerced the staff into accepting a grueling holiday work schedule at a marginally higher rate of pay.  And time off is now a voluntary act the staff must request, instead of a compulsory law the employer must abide.
You raise an interesting point, Bomber... With the onslaught of many in the population seeking to rid public schools, corporate properties (shops, workplaces, websites, etc) government properties of any and all references to Christianity, when a company abandons the tradition of Xmas observance and work time payment, some get upset.

I realize Xmas is still a federal holiday, but this year it falls on a weekend. So why should any employee (federal, state or corporate) receive further compensation? I'm not looking to start bickering over the issue, just positing an idea that we (Americans) seem to want things both ways at times.

I am with you on this issue as a matter of record. Amazon leaves much to be desired as a corporation and public "citizen" but these issues of employment law are the result of a social trend they don't own, but they endure. And as always, folks do have the freedom to work elsewhere if they find their employer lacks civility or honor in their corporate culture (like you just did; Take this job and shove it!  8) ).

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Re: New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2016, 03:58:15 AM »
Meanwhile Amazon corp is scamming their staff.  Rather than offer traditional overtime pay, they coerced the staff into accepting a grueling holiday work schedule at a marginally higher rate of pay.  And time off is now a voluntary act the staff must request, instead of a compulsory law the employer must abide.
You raise an interesting point, Bomber... With the onslaught of many in the population seeking to rid public schools, corporate properties (shops, workplaces, websites, etc) government properties of any and all references to Christianity, when a company abandons the tradition of Xmas observance and work time payment, some get upset.

I realize Xmas is still a federal holiday, but this year it falls on a weekend. So why should any employee (federal, state or corporate) receive further compensation? I'm not looking to start bickering over the issue, just positing an idea that we (Americans) seem to want things both ways at times.

I am with you on this issue as a matter of record. Amazon leaves much to be desired as a corporation and public "citizen" but these issues of employment law are the result of a social trend they don't own, but they endure. And as always, folks do have the freedom to work elsewhere if they find their employer lacks civility or honor in their corporate culture (like you just did; Take this job and shove it!  8) ).

Just saying-

I have a very hard time being "seasonal" when I have to work Christmas Eve. I don't get any extra pay, and that doesn't bother me, but being there does. Also, people who come for maintenance on Christmas Eve are scumbags. I mean, if your belt falls off or your tire goes flat, I get it. Don't show up for a 20$ oil change on Christmas Eve. I want to think that I'm there for holiday emergencies of the traveling sort, not so I can check your tire pressure and change your oil. Maybe I should put this in the pissed off thread.


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Re: New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2016, 04:26:29 AM »
I have a very hard time being "seasonal" when I have to work Christmas Eve. I don't get any extra pay, and that doesn't bother me, but being there does. Also, people who come for maintenance on Christmas Eve are scumbags. I mean, if your belt falls off or your tire goes flat, I get it. Don't show up for a 20$ oil change on Christmas Eve. I want to think that I'm there for holiday emergencies of the traveling sort, not so I can check your tire pressure and change your oil. Maybe I should put this in the pissed off thread.
Many aeons ago, when I was young and dinosaurs roamed this earth, I too worked at a service station (you know, the kind where they had "Full Service" pumps, air, oil checks, wiped your windows, guys in uniforms...) and ran a wrecker as my second job. I always liked working Xmas, T-day and such. It gave me quite a jolt to see and meet strangers, do something minimal for someone else. I need thought of it as an imposition. I guess now with kids, I might? But as a family, we actually devote a lot of time to charities and volunteering, especially around the holidays to Food Banks, Shelters, Blood Drives and what not. Kind of our Xmas gift to the community.

Sort of goes back to my earlier point; many want the "x factor" out of the holidays but seem to cling to its "definition" without wanting to be burdened with its expectations.
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Re: New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2016, 07:14:06 AM »
I guess i should have been more clear about the voluntary time off with amazon.

My inside source, has been working an increased schedule since mid november.  What amazon has done, is bloat up on staff for the high-demand mail order months of nov/dec.  Mostly hiring eligible out of country types and teenagers, the types of workers who are easy to fcuk over cause most don't have a damn clue to begin with.
Now you'd think with the increased staff size, everyone would have a typical schedule that does not turn into a 24/7 soul-consuming affair.  Haha nope!  Amazon went and "blacked out" the months of nov/dec, making time off a non-option for staff. Then proceeded to place everyone into mandatory overtime, without the forementioned time and a half pay.  Cause apparently everyone (in the corporate board room) agreed that $3 temporary pay raise, was a fair trade for 20 hours overtime work.  (Which it may very well be in any state other than Washington)

Somehow amazon managed to weasel their way around overtime laws, and since they're not union (which a majority of their temp staff has likely never heard of) no one has the balls to start a protest over it.  As management is generally a hostile threat to staff anyone, with interaction limited to "you're hired" on day one, and "you're fired" on the last day.  Training and supervision is handled by coworkers, and only if you're lucky do you get some honest guidance from someone who isn't out to sabotage the employee and make themself look competent.

Did I ever mention how much i hate corporate mooks?
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2016, 07:25:31 AM »
Unionize. There, I said it. The big, bad evil word to say in this corporatized day and age.

You will only be treated in a civil tone when you have the power of numbers to demand fair compensation and a reasonable work schedule.
Until then you will continue to get treated like common worker garbage that can be replaced at the drop of a slip.
 
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Re: New scam targets Amazon shoppers
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2016, 07:32:56 AM »
Unionize. There, I said it. The big, bad evil word to say in this corporatized day and age.

You will only be treated in a civil tone when you have the power of numbers to demand fair compensation and a reasonable work schedule.
Until then you will continue to get treated like common worker garbage that can be replaced at the drop of a slip.
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