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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #150 on: February 10, 2017, 03:54:01 AM »
That's the biggest magnetic tray I've ever seen. Didn't know they came that large.
Are you talking about the surface the swing arm is on top off? It looks more like stone to me for welding against and having a perfectly flat (fly cut) and true surface. If it were magnetic, you'd have a terrible time welding on it. The magnetic field would play hell with your arc and you don't want to weld against a magnet anyway as the heat ultimately damages the magnet.

It could also be a piece of steel thats been milled/fly cut for the same purposes of flatness for welding/fitting.
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Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #151 on: February 10, 2017, 04:16:14 AM »
That's the biggest magnetic tray I've ever seen. Didn't know they came that large.
Are you talking about the surface the swing arm is on top off? It looks more like stone to me for welding against and having a perfectly flat (fly cut) and true surface. If it were magnetic, you'd have a terrible time welding on it. The magnetic field would play hell with your arc and you don't want to weld against a magnet anyway as the heat ultimately damages the magnet.

It could also be a piece of steel thats been milled/fly cut for the same purposes of flatness for welding/fitting.

Looks like a machinist slate. A perfectly true surface.
You are a machinist, why am I telling you this?
I was talking about the magnetic tray on the side of his toolbox. All of mine are one quarter of that size

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #152 on: February 10, 2017, 04:29:05 AM »
Looks like a machinist slate. A perfectly true surface.
You are a machinist, why am I telling you this?
I was talking about the magnetic tray on the side of his toolbox. All of mine are one quarter of that size
I am not, I just play one on TV.  ;D

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2017, 06:27:40 AM »
Ah that thing is cool! Coming along nicely!

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2017, 07:26:14 AM »
You are busting this thing out in record pace and full class! Well done on the progress and details.

Thank you and again thank you for your help!  Been tough with my full time job, my 13 month old and other bikes I'm working on.  I try to go out for 2-3 hours every night get things done.  I need to have it wrapped up next month visually so i can try to get it into the Handbuilt show.  He needs a pic of it to decide on.  Then I have about a month to wire it and work the kinks out.  Most of my motor should be back in 2 weeks.  Mike is wrapping up porting my head and the rods should be done getting balanced & shot peened soon too and my cylinder is almost done. 

Other piece i'm waiting on is race tech to finish my shocks.  They are now saying the end of the month.  Which puts it at about 2.5 months to build my shocks. 
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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #155 on: February 10, 2017, 07:27:55 AM »
Haha on the magnetic tray.  Back when i worked at a shop, the snap on guy convinced me i needed it.  and honestly i barely use it.  Thing is huge!
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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #156 on: February 10, 2017, 07:40:22 AM »
Haha on the magnetic tray.  Back when i worked at a shop, the snap on guy convinced me i needed it.  and honestly i barely use it.  Thing is huge!
I, too, have fallen prey to the Snap-On demon. I spent way too much on things that would have been cheaper at Harbor Freight,  like creepers, welding helmets, etc. Sure, I love my Snap-On ratchets and wrenches, but there are somethings it's just not cost-effective to spend on that name for.


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« Reply #157 on: February 10, 2017, 07:43:16 AM »
agreed, i have found moments of joy when i actually use a tool i thought i would use daily.  I  bought a hose clamp tool years ago and crack a smile the two times i've used it recently.
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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #158 on: February 10, 2017, 08:47:33 PM »
Tomorrow is the best day of the week.  Paint day!


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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #159 on: February 10, 2017, 09:45:23 PM »
oH YA..... Time to make a big mess of the shop.   :)  Here is that vector layout for tank sides.  7.5inches wide.

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« Reply #160 on: February 10, 2017, 09:46:55 PM »
Oh...a warning on that Nason...It will run on ya.  That stuff is pretty low solids.  Let if flash off for quite some time between coats.  It really is thin.  4 coats min with the Nason over that flake.

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #161 on: February 10, 2017, 09:57:51 PM »
oH YA..... Time to make a big mess of the shop.   :)  Here is that vector layout for tank sides.  7.5inches wide.
Haha gold glitter for all! 

That looks perfect!  Any thoughts on dimensions on the rear numbers?


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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #162 on: February 10, 2017, 09:58:43 PM »
Oh...a warning on that Nason...It will run on ya.  That stuff is pretty low solids.  Let if flash off for quite some time between coats.  It really is thin.  4 coats min with the Nason over that flake.
Thanks for the heads up!


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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #163 on: February 10, 2017, 10:03:15 PM »
According to the scale that you have provided for me on that rear rectangular area, the numbers come up right around 4.75" tallx 4.25"wide

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #164 on: February 11, 2017, 12:33:03 PM »
Thanks to all of the advise from palepainter, my frame is done!  Turned out exactly as I hoped. 


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« Reply #165 on: February 11, 2017, 02:10:32 PM »
It's a beautiful thing.....

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« Reply #166 on: February 11, 2017, 02:38:52 PM »
Shagadelic, baby!


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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #167 on: February 12, 2017, 10:07:41 AM »
Got the frame outside and in the sun for a couple pics.



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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #168 on: February 12, 2017, 10:35:50 AM »
See how the clear settles down in a few days before you decide to sand and reclear.  Sanding that baby down for reclear will be no picnic.  Easy to blow through edges...then ya have to spot in repairs....Ugh.  I think 4 coats should do it.  Worse case scenario may be, sand down the more visible sections of frame and then buff. 

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #169 on: February 12, 2017, 11:01:33 AM »
I LIKE IT!!
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Re: Cb400f build aka &quot;the come up&quot;
« Reply #170 on: February 12, 2017, 12:09:48 PM »
See how the clear settles down in a few days before you decide to sand and reclear.  Sanding that baby down for reclear will be no picnic.  Easy to blow through edges...then ya have to spot in repairs....Ugh.  I think 4 coats should do it.  Worse case scenario may be, sand down the more visible sections of frame and then buff.
Won't break my heart if I don't have to sand the whole thing again!  My hands weren't happy sanding filler and primer on this thing!


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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #171 on: February 12, 2017, 12:50:31 PM »
I totally understand.  ;)  It is looking great.  The thing that sucks, if ya start putting it together in the next few days and the topography of the flake starts coming through.  One of the down sides of the Nason.  But like I said, you may be able to get away with going over the more visible areas with 1000 then 2000 and a light buff.  Some of it won't really matter at all.   I painted my frame black for this very reason.   :) 

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Re: Cb400f build aka "the come up"
« Reply #172 on: February 12, 2017, 12:54:57 PM »
The frame is one of the most important components of the whole bike and yours really does 'Glow'  8)
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« Reply #173 on: February 12, 2017, 01:30:53 PM »
I totally understand.  ;)  It is looking great.  The thing that sucks, if ya start putting it together in the next few days and the topography of the flake starts coming through.  One of the down sides of the Nason.  But like I said, you may be able to get away with going over the more visible areas with 1000 then 2000 and a light buff.  Some of it won't really matter at all.   I painted my frame black for this very reason.   :)
The good news is my swingarm won't be here till late in the week so I can see how it cures.  Plus it gives me time to prime the tank and tail.  I'll get you an email on the mask decals later tonight.  Thanks again for all your help!


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Re: Cb400f build aka &quot;the come up&quot;
« Reply #174 on: February 12, 2017, 01:31:08 PM »
The frame is one of the most important components of the whole bike and yours really does 'Glow'  8)
Haha thanks!


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