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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #500 on: June 27, 2017, 10:18:02 AM »
I think the last thing on earth I'd want under my ass is an Antigravity battery. I've seen many fires start because of those. Just a heads up.
I've run about eight of them with no problems.  Everyone ive heard of was caused by over charging it.  With the Rick's R/R I'm good there. 


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Most of those failures occurred because the bike had the stock regulator and rectifier and a short likely precipitated a runaway charge and explosion/fire.  You should be fine with a solid state R/R.  If you are that concerned about Antigravity as a brand, buy a Shorai.
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #501 on: June 27, 2017, 10:34:56 AM »
I'm in the process of being a speed cell dealer so may swap it out down the road


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #502 on: June 27, 2017, 10:56:32 AM »
I'm in the process of being a speed cell dealer so may swap it out down the road


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Speed cell has really trick stuff. I spoke to them a year ago. They will essentially make a battery for your application -- and with a meter built in.  Mostly race-oriented applications, from what I understand.
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #503 on: June 27, 2017, 10:56:28 PM »
I'm in the process of being a speed cell dealer so may swap it out down the road


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Speed cell has really trick stuff. I spoke to them a year ago. They will essentially make a battery for your application -- and with a meter built in.  Mostly race-oriented applications, from what I understand.

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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #504 on: June 27, 2017, 10:58:01 PM »


All components are mounted.  Glad I used to do car audio installs.  This wiring is tight on room but will look great once done.


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #505 on: June 28, 2017, 07:08:31 AM »
I haven't seen that fuse block before.  Is it a conventional blade-style system or an electronic fuse system like the Motogadget?
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #506 on: June 28, 2017, 07:47:10 AM »
It is made by Eastern Beaver and uses mini fuses.  I really like it.  Has two fused 12+, 6 switched, and 8 grounds. 
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #507 on: June 28, 2017, 08:04:08 AM »
Also got my plug lines installed. 



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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #508 on: June 30, 2017, 12:53:39 AM »
Almost there... Can't wait to hear the growl of those pipes.

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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #509 on: June 30, 2017, 01:00:26 AM »
Did you test fit your tank after locating the coils where you did? It seems to me that they will interfere with the tunnel badly.  :-\
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #510 on: June 30, 2017, 06:36:57 AM »
Did you test fit your tank after locating the coils where you did? It seems to me that they will interfere with the tunnel badly.  :-\
Yes sir.  Fits like a glove.  Was a tight fit on height of the coils.  Reusing the original brackets put me right where I needed. 


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #511 on: July 02, 2017, 10:49:12 PM »
Finished ignition switch bracket and one for my gauge switch and headlight dimmer



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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #512 on: July 03, 2017, 09:16:51 AM »
What are the switch functions on the left?  Horn and hi-lo?
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #513 on: July 03, 2017, 10:42:36 AM »
The left switch toggles between the functions on the tach/speedo and the the dial switch controls the output of the headlight


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #514 on: July 03, 2017, 12:46:18 PM »
The left switch toggles between the functions on the tach/speedo and the the dial switch controls the output of the headlight


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Holy crap. I thought you mis-spoke when you said headlight dimmer but apparently NOT. I don't think I've ever seen that before for a headlight.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #515 on: July 03, 2017, 12:54:15 PM »
Yeah it was really hard to find a led light that wasn't 5" deep with good output and a dimmer or high/low setting.  Clearwater has been making a few models for the adventure bikes and I'm very impressed so far. Gonna have to add a set to my ktm


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #516 on: July 04, 2017, 06:37:22 AM »
This is looking so tight. It is one of those builds that has been educational and full of great ideas.

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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #517 on: July 19, 2017, 04:45:39 AM »
Finally wrapping up some customer bikes and got to the home stretch for wiring.  From the coil ground forward is done.  Also get setup with speedcell as a dealer and had to redo my electronics tray to account for the little bit of size difference. Also got my stator back from being rewound and rebuild my starter. 


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #518 on: July 19, 2017, 06:52:16 AM »
Is that one of the Speedcell units with a built in volt meter?
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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #519 on: July 19, 2017, 09:06:56 AM »
Is that one of the Speedcell units with a built in volt meter?
Unfortunately only the Baja battery had that. And it's quite q beast of a battery. 


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #520 on: July 19, 2017, 09:12:12 AM »
A $20,000 CB400, I hope this is a labor of love.

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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #521 on: July 19, 2017, 10:46:16 AM »
A $20,000 CB400, I hope this is a labor of love.

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$20000!?  Oh man I hope not.  This has been a labor of love.  Just wait till I start my h2 build that is happening after this.  that one is going to make this one seem pretty boring I think. 


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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #522 on: July 19, 2017, 11:14:41 AM »
A $20,000 CB400, I hope this is a labor of love.

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$20000!?  Oh man I hope not.  This has been a labor of love.  Just wait till I start my h2 build that is happening after this.  that one is going to make this one seem pretty boring I think. 


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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #523 on: July 19, 2017, 11:24:15 AM »
Whatever the cost, it's awesome. I know what I spent on my 450, so I can tell this build hasn't been cheap. Oh, well, it's only money. My employer gives me more every 2 weeks. .

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Re: Cb400f Wiring and then first fire!
« Reply #524 on: July 19, 2017, 11:28:07 AM »
Is that one of the Speedcell units with a built in volt meter?
Unfortunately only the Baja battery had that. And it's quite q beast of a battery. 


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I believe Speed Merchant and Suicide Machine still use those models on their flat track Hooligan race bikes.  I think that Jake Gagne uses the smaller Superbike model on his CBR1000RR in MotoAmerica racing.  Obviously, it helps when you are a sponsored rider and not just a customer.  I spoke to the guys at Speed Cell.  Super helpful -- they will build a battery to fit your parameters.  Not cheap, but killer stuff. 
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold