Topic: 1965 CB77 - starting back up!

[CBJoe]

Nice project-

If you haven't discovered it yet, those banjo bolts are the screened fuel inlet to the carbs. Did they come with new fiber washers?

That's actually someone else's picture.  I haven't disassembled the carbies yet.

[Bodi]

Those banjos are from my carbs. The washers seem OK and I reused them, haven't fueled it up yet to see if they leak. Hopefully today, I got a new battery this morning.

The footpeg brackets are a well known weak spot: combined with the narrow centrestand that causes fallovers on soft footing (and lack of a sidestand) ... and the very strong solid steel footpegs, these are usually found bent and often cracked. Dropping at speed usually snaps them apart. If they break off, moving the pegs to the front (uncomfortable) position is an option if you can find or make the different shift linkage needed.
Sobered up and realized these are the passenger pegs, driver pegs are foldups. So with that broken you just have a problem with passenger pegs.
I see the sidestands available from Vietnam but haven't got one, not too trustful. And wondering where it might attach.

[MCRider]

Those banjos are from my carbs. The washers seem OK and I reused them, haven't fueled it up yet to see if they leak. Hopefully today, I got a new battery this morning.

The footpeg brackets are a well known weak spot: combined with the narrow centrestand that causes fallovers on soft footing (and lack of a sidestand) ... and the very strong solid steel footpegs, these are usually found bent and often cracked. Dropping at speed usually snaps them apart. If they break off, moving the pegs to the front (uncomfortable) position is an option if you can find or make the different shift linkage needed.

I have for mine, one of the nearly unobtainable, official Honda add on sidestands. It shows on the microfiche IIRC, but is NLA.

[CBJoe]

Those banjos are from my carbs. The washers seem OK and I reused them, haven't fueled it up yet to see if they leak. Hopefully today, I got a new battery this morning.

The footpeg brackets are a well known weak spot: combined with the narrow centrestand that causes fallovers on soft footing (and lack of a sidestand) ... and the very strong solid steel footpegs, these are usually found bent and often cracked. Dropping at speed usually snaps them apart. If they break off, moving the pegs to the front (uncomfortable) position is an option if you can find or make the different shift linkage needed.

I have for mine, one of the nearly unobtainable, official Honda add on sidestands. It shows on the microfiche IIRC, but is NLA.

Hey Ron!  You are correct its unobtainable   and I'm sure if they do show up they are crazy expensive.  Tell you what.  I'll come over and install Phaedrus's engine for you in exchange for your sidestand

[MCRider]

Those banjos are from my carbs. The washers seem OK and I reused them, haven't fueled it up yet to see if they leak. Hopefully today, I got a new battery this morning.

The footpeg brackets are a well known weak spot: combined with the narrow centrestand that causes fallovers on soft footing (and lack of a sidestand) ... and the very strong solid steel footpegs, these are usually found bent and often cracked. Dropping at speed usually snaps them apart. If they break off, moving the pegs to the front (uncomfortable) position is an option if you can find or make the different shift linkage needed.

I have for mine, one of the nearly unobtainable, official Honda add on sidestands. It shows on the microfiche IIRC, but is NLA.

Hey Ron!  You are correct its unobtainable   and I'm sure if they do show up they are crazy expensive.  Tell you what.  I'll come over and install Phaedrus's engine for you in exchange for your sidestand

Uh... no.       Actually, we could use it as a template to have Saldana Racing products build a duplicate. Hmmm...  Getting off of it with no sidestand is a trick. You have to hold it upright while dismounting, just asking for a high side drop, then drop the centerstand.

Speaking of which, we didn't get a whole lot done this winter on Phaedrus, but things I wanted to do. I upgraded the case hardware, from Yamiya. Besides re-gooping the case halves and the mainbearing saddles, we did some other picayunish things. (re build thread)  So, we might be putting it back in the frame in a few weeks. I'll let you know, you let me know your availability. Thanks!

[CBJoe]

Sounds good Ron....Just let me know when you are ready for re-install.

[RAFster122s]

Bump

[CBJoe]

Bump

haha...thanks for the bump David 

Working with Ron(MCRider) on his CB77 has got me back into this one.  I have a LOT of OEM parts purchased for the bike already.  Just need to get the frame painted and ready to start putting back together.

Dropped off the center stand, swingarm, and frame yesterday to pro-strip Indy and they turned it around fast.  Well worth 65$ to drop off a greasy rusty mess and come back with this.  They turned it around in less than 24 hours. 

worst pitting is on the center stand feet and lowers.  Trying to decide how far to go fillling them.  Also need to decide the primer and paint i'm going to use.  Maybe eastwoods primer and chassis paint.  Doing a mostly factory OEM build....so I decided this time to not do powdercoating.  I'm sure some will disagree...but....eh....

I have a NOS D.I.D Rear rim and have dropped the front rim off for re-chrome since they are just about unobtainable.  More to come through spring.

Cheers, Joe

[MCRider]

Wow Joe that looks great!  The triple tree is in the before pics but not the after. What's up?

I ordered some stuff from Eastwood, fast etch, after blast metal prep, EW gas tank kit for cycles. We'll talk.

CU

[CBJoe]

Wow Joe that looks great!  The triple tree is in the before pics but not the after. What's up?

I ordered some stuff from Eastwood, fast etch, after blast metal prep, EW gas tank kit for cycles. We'll talk.

CU

Yeah...the triple tree lower is small enough I'll strip that myself.   I found a really nice set of early model forks on ebay and bit the bullet and ordered them.  Since my one for appears to be damaged internally and I needed to replace the seal holders (or whatever you call the chrome screw on pieces) its seemed the best overall solution.

Cheers, Joe

[MCRider]

Wow Joe that looks great!  The triple tree is in the before pics but not the after. What's up?

I ordered some stuff from Eastwood, fast etch, after blast metal prep, EW gas tank kit for cycles. We'll talk.

CU

Yeah...the triple tree lower is small enough I'll strip that myself.   I found a really nice set of early model forks on ebay and bit the bullet and ordered them.  Since my one for appears to be damaged internally and I needed to replace the seal holders (or whatever you call the chrome screw on pieces) its seemed the best overall solution.

Cheers, Joe

Good, successful shopping.

[MauiK3]

Great project

[HondaMan]

This sidestand mention reminds me that I had a long chrome one on my old SuperHawk. It leaned over a little more than a 750 does, looked cool! I got it from a chopper shop, IIRC.

[CBJoe]

This sidestand mention reminds me that I had a long chrome one on my old SuperHawk. It leaned over a little more than a 750 does, looked cool! I got it from a chopper shop, IIRC.

Ron's got a fancy original NOS(or repro...not sure) kickstand and its sweet....but holy crap, the one I found on Ebay is like 400$ which is nuts.  No way.  I'm just gonna have a center stand for now 

[grcamna2]

This sidestand mention reminds me that I had a long chrome one on my old SuperHawk. It leaned over a little more than a 750 does, looked cool! I got it from a chopper shop, IIRC.

Ron's got a fancy original NOS(or repro...not sure) kickstand and its sweet....but holy crap, the one I found on Ebay is like 400$ which is nuts.  No way.  I'm just gonna have a center stand for now 

CBJoe,for that price you could get some steel stock of the same type,cut & form all the parts to match and have a welder do the rest;possibly borrow Ron's OEM kickstand as a 'pattern' ?

[Stev-o]

Good choice on the blasting, $65 is a deal.   

[CBJoe]

found a local place that does full tank stripping of entire car bodies when I was getting the intake and other bits stripped for the Firebird.  Their prices are great for the smaller bits.

[RAFster122s]

That is agreat deal for a stripper, er, a place that strips your parts. They look good. Maybe have a buddy with a welder build up some metal for the foot or is there plenty of meat left in the pad/bottom?

Do you guys touch up the paint on your center and side stands every couple of years??
The sand and pavement is rough on the paint. If AZ were humid they might rust...little chance other than maybe light surface rust.

[Magpie]

Just "finished" this one, a 1964.

[MauiK3]

That is beautiful!!!
Other bike of the month?
Curious, just behind and below the swing arm bolt is a place it looks like something should go, it has a star shape. What is it?
Very cool bike, leading shoe front and rear brakes, cool.
Love it

[CBJoe]

agreed!  that is a beautiful bike 

[MCRider]

That is beautiful!!!
Other bike of the month?
Curious, just behind and below the swing arm bolt is a place it looks like something should go, it has a star shape. What is it?
Very cool bike, leading shoe front and rear brakes, cool.
Love it

That is a setback position for the footpegs. Up and back. The shifter side requires that you source a longer shift linkage rod.  They were available in a roadracing kit which included a solo seat, engine hop up parts, etc. Kind of like the CR kit that was available for the CB750.  Pops Yoshimura roadraced the CB77, it put a lot of larger bikes to shame. The brake side is set to go as the rear brake is cable actuated.

The brakes are very powerful. Honda using the dual leading shoe design while Triumph was still using the single leading shoe with a smaller hub/drum.

[RAFster122s]

Magpie, gorgeous work as always!

[MauiK3]

Fantastic
What a great bike. Great job bringing it back to life.

[Stev-o]

+1 Great job Magpie!   

I've joined the 60's Honda bike club, a buddy sold me his '67 CB450 K0 recently...



But unlike you guys, this bike will not get restored. It is nearly all original [except handle bars] so it is staying as is.  And runs great so nothing needed there except tires. Just ordered IRC's.