Topic: Now you can finally make your Honda Fly

[ElCheapo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CONTACT-aviation-art-sculpture-Honda-motorcycle_W0QQitemZ230061067628QQihZ013QQcategoryZ10062QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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[scunny]

very nice, I wonder if you could rig it up so the bars are connected to the (aileron ?) flappy thingy on the tail piece

[kghost]

Someone posted a link to that guys site a while back

Has a triplane too

[medic09]

kg,

You could open a Honda flying school.

Now, on to my signature song from another forum (and work):

"Up in the air, jr. birdmen,
Up in the air, up side down..."

 

[Steve F]

Remember that old question......"if Harley built an airplane, would YOU fly in it?"   

[spider-man]

Hmm, call it a Yellow Wing.   

[medic09]

Remember that old question......"if Harley built an airplane, would YOU fly in it?"   

uh, NO.

[ElCheapo]

I would fly a Honda, interesting flight, but I would fly a Honda 

[Roach Carver]

wth. I would be scared to death of a strong side wind

[ElCheapo]

wth. I would be scared to death of a strong side wind

The bright side is that you could glide away  Just need a good prop now 

[BobbyR]

Seems like nice work. I would never be caught dead riding that thing in public.

[ElCheapo]

Seems like nice work. I would never be caught dead riding that thing in public.

I would if just to leave people with the ever stupid WTF look on thier face 

[seaweb11]

Imagine the size of the trailer you would need for a HD plane

[Rsnip988]

thats pretty cool


rks

[kghost]

Hope you people would fly a honda ......because they are gonna build one.

http://hondajet.honda.com/

Enjoy the video. 

[paxtonpony]

Hope you people would fly a honda ......because they are gonna build one.

http://hondajet.honda.com/

Enjoy the video. 

Blah.  That's bland.  While possibly cutting edge, the engines look like an afterthought.  Kind of like they built the plane then said "oops, we forgot to add engines."  Here, we'll just stick a couple about right here.

And since I'm in the complaining mood...  The e-bay auction should include a large paper bag with eye holes to wear over your helmet.  This way you can ride it in public.  The reason he hasn't put alot of miles on it is probably because the wind never stops blowing in Kansas.  Either that or he knows everyone is laughing at him.

[kghost]

Hope you people would fly a honda ......because they are gonna build one.

http://hondajet.honda.com/

Enjoy the video. 

Blah.  That's bland.  While possibly cutting edge, the engines look like an afterthought.  Kind of like they built the plane then said "oops, we forgot to add engines."  Here, we'll just stick a couple about right here.

And since I'm in the complaining mood...  The e-bay auction should include a large paper bag with eye holes to wear over your helmet.  This way you can ride it in public.  The reason he hasn't put alot of miles on it is probably because the wind never stops blowing in Kansas.  Either that or he knows everyone is laughing at him.

Well that shows what you know about airplanes 

There are multiple design aspects that are unique solutions to problems of design.

I'll address just one for you.

The engines you seem to think an afterthought?

They are put there instead of on the fuselage to alleviate the weight of the additional structure in the aft body. Since the forward and aft spars of the wing are plenty strong enough to support the pylon on the engine why add weight?

Additionally the placement of the engine pylons on the wing frees up space normally used for the pylon and associated hardware. Kind of nice not having fuel and hydraulic lines in the cabin area.

If your really bored I'll explain what a natural laminar flow wing is.....

I'll even talk about the unique engine honda has developed.

You might take a moment and consider the possibilities....one of the worlds largest car/motorcycle manufacturer delving into Aviation....wonder what that would do to the cost associated with flying?

Takes me back to Fords experimentation with aviation in the 1920's....oh what could have been

[medic09]

That's a pretty nice looking design.

What would that do to Eclipse Aviation (our local company in ABQ)?

[Rsnip988]

"You might take a moment and consider the possibilities....one of the worlds largest car/motorcycle manufacturer delving into Aviation....wonder what that would do to the cost associated with flying?"

I should think it would make buying a plane cheaper initially, as they did with their cars and motorcycles




"Takes me back to Fords experimentation with aviation in the 1920's....oh what could have been"

that would have given a whole new dimension to "Found On Road Dead"

JKI have owned good fords and still do

[paxtonpony]

Well that shows what you know about airplanes 

Other than being a licensed pilot and currently serving in the U. S. Air Force?    It's still a bland design with only the wing mounted (after thought) engines distinguishing it from lear jet designs dating from before when our bikes were built.  To me, the engines look stuck-on and don't flow with the design of the aircraft.  Typical of Honda though, their technology is cutting edge while their designs are generally conservative and...  well, bland.  But that's my opinion, not trying to start an argument.

[Rsnip988]

well I like it and i dont think it looks bland


as long as it flies and doesnt crash, who cares what it looks like,


oh yueah and with the honda name it will probably be more reliable and cheaper

[kghost]

Well that shows what you know about airplanes 

Other than being a licensed pilot and currently serving in the U. S. Air Force?    It's still a bland design with only the wing mounted (after thought) engines distinguishing it from lear jet designs dating from before when our bikes were built.  To me, the engines look stuck-on and don't flow with the design of the aircraft.  Typical of Honda though, their technology is cutting edge while their designs are generally conservative and...  well, bland.  But that's my opinion, not trying to start an argument.

That just means your in the worlds biggest flying club.

I do so love it when people say they are "licensed" pilots. Every time I hear that it screams noob.  .

Now if you'd told me you flew tac-air or something I'd have been impressed. 

Like I said earlier theos engine pylons are claimed to increase cabin volume by up to 30 percent.

On those pylons are a medium bypass engine of Hondas own design equipped with FADEC. Said to be the first of its kind on engines of this size.

The unified composite structure of the airframe while not new (dates back to rutan and scaled composites) does represent a possible increase when combined with engine of up to 40 percent ( fuel efficiency or range/payload take your pick)

I'd say thats pretty significant.

[paxtonpony]

If your really bored I'll explain what a natural laminar flow wing is.....

I'll even talk about the unique engine honda has developed.

I would take that to mean you think you're smarter than everyone else here.

That just means your in the worlds biggest flying club.

I do so love it when people say they are "licensed" pilots. Every time I hear that it screams noob.  .

Now if you'd told me you flew tac-air or something I'd have been impressed. 

And I'd take that to mean you'd fit in perfectly with the rest of the #$%*s on the sport bike forums.

[750duo]

For a better view of this aircraft and the honda wings try


    http://world.honda.com/jet/           



It seems that honda has made a deal with Piper Aircraft (Vero Beach, Fla) to market the new honda jet 6 passenger. They are rumored to begin taking orders in Jan 2007. !!!!

Anybody ready to order??  How about you.  maybe sohc4&jet forum.

[paxtonpony]

Funny video!
All flaming posts aside, I wonder why Honda is jumping into the private aircraft market.  In particular, corporate jets.  The corporate jet market is very flat and heavily dominated by the Citation series.  Why didn't they jump into the single and twin engine piston market?  That would seem like the smart thing to do.  They already have a solid reputation as a piston engine builder, why not carry on with that and build up?  That would fit what Honda has always done, built to the masses.

[750duo]

Your question is valid.

After many years courting the CITATION market, Cessna has gone back into the piston engine theater  --- albeit a bit price-ee-er   

So now we have a HONDA JET.

It looks like they will be in the arena with the likes of FALCON JET.

[medic09]

I don't know what the price will be.  Might they be shooting low enough to attract some of the folks that would fork out for an Eclipse?  Or will the price difference be too big?

[kghost]

I think the price will be in the ballpark of the eclipse.

The market in VLJ's is pretty hot as evidenced by the developements in this segment of the market.

Eclipse is by no means the only contender in the race.  Cessna (mustang), Adams aircraft (A700), Diamond Aircraft (D-jet), Embraer (Phenom100), Piper (piperjet) and the list goes on.

These aircraft represent what turboprop's were two decades or more ago.

Supposedly these jets will be reasonable to aquire pricewise. They are reputed to be low operating cost per flight hr. Advances in flight management allows them to be flown single pilot by anyone with a modecum of skill.

There is lots of talk regarding owner operators ( owner is also the pilot ).

Also talk of massive expansion in the air charter / fractional ownership market.


And paxtonpony....maybe I would fit in with the sportbike forum....but I don't just have a "license" I do it for a living.





 

[Rsnip988]

I don't just have a "license" I do it for a living.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH Burn!


haha

he may not think he's smarter than everyone else here, but he knows more about airplanes than most people here from the many threads he's posted in

I like to think I know more about Chemistry than a lot of people but thats not to say I am smarter than everyone else, I am just more learned in the chemical arts (haha)  I certainly dont know everything there is to know and I've already forgotten more than most people know about it

what were we talking about?

oh yeah air-o-planes

the movies Airplane & Airplane II are hillarious

[kghost]

Thanks Richard.

Sure aint gonna argue chemistry with ya.....


And don't call me shirley. 

[Steve F]

Back to the question if Harley made a plane would you fly in it? NO!   Honda? YES!  Once they start making this plane, the Harley crowd will need to come up with something other than "biker buildoff".  Hmmmm plane buildoff?  They'll be building bi-planes with V-twins.  Maybe 2 v-twins!!!!!!!!  What a concept!! I'll make millions!
 

[medic09]

Back to the question if Harley made a plane would you fly in it? NO!   Honda? YES!  Once they start making this plane, the Harley crowd will need to come up with something other than "biker buildoff".  Hmmmm plane buildoff?  They'll be building bi-planes with V-twins.  Maybe 2 v-twins!!!!!!!!  What a concept!! I'll make millions!
 

They'd probably call it V or V-2, 'cause it'd bomb.   

[Rsnip988]

haha   can OCC make a chopper plane




KGhost  "and dont call me shirley"

can i slap you around and call you sally then?

[kghost]

haha   can OCC make a chopper plane




KGhost  "and dont call me shirley"

can i slap you around and call you sally then?

Once.....just once.

Someone will need medical attention after 

[Rsnip988]

you from being slapped around duh!