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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2017, 03:13:27 PM »
So, Nick, are you in the waiting room for your parts or are you also working on your frame mods and 32 amp charging system. 



Just seeing if there's an update.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2017, 06:11:49 AM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on February 09, 2017, 03:13:27 PM
So, Nick, are you in the waiting room for your parts or are you also working on your frame mods and 32 amp charging system. 



Just seeing if there's an update.

Head is in que with MRieck. Trans is at Fast by Gast and should be done any day now. Pistons came thursday. C5 came a little over a week ago, motogaget stuff should be in my hands this week sometime, have to order camchain and decide what to do for the tensioner. Need to grab a plastigauge to start checking clearances and I'm going to get the rotating assembly balanced.

Waiting on some steel for my frame jig, and then can start playing around with the geometry in CAD to design what I want to do with the frame. Have quite the backlog in customer work to get caught up on too so might be a bit before I have any BIG updates.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2017, 09:57:59 AM »
Thanks, Nick.  Looking forward to see what you do with the frame.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2017, 12:06:58 PM »
Well, small change of plans. Ran across a cool vintage speed part and decided with all the new tech I'm throwing at this bike it needs a link to the past so I snatched up an NOS yoshimure 122-00 camshaft for this!

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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2017, 01:03:10 PM »
Quote from: sinister902 on February 13, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Well, small change of plans. Ran across a cool vintage speed part and decided with all the new tech I'm throwing at this bike it needs a link to the past so I snatched up an NOS yoshimure 122-00 camshaft for this!



That's pretty rare.  Every once in a while a Yosh 750 camshaft will surface, but I haven't seen any for 550s.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2017, 01:03:47 PM »
Does it require hardweld rockers or will stock ones suffice?
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2017, 01:25:31 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on February 13, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
Does it require hardweld rockers or will stock ones suffice?

judging by what information lurks in the past of SOHC4.net it appears these were cut from OEM honda blanks then sent back to honda for the heat treat, so dont REQUIRE hardweld rockers. I'm probably going to have the rockers and the cam coated with anti friction, though.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2017, 02:01:14 PM »
Quote from: sinister902 on February 13, 2017, 01:25:31 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on February 13, 2017, 01:03:47 PM
Does it require hardweld rockers or will stock ones suffice?

judging by what information lurks in the past of SOHC4.net it appears these were cut from OEM honda blanks then sent back to honda for the heat treat, so dont REQUIRE hardweld rockers. I'm probably going to have the rockers and the cam coated with anti friction, though.

Nice find.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2017, 04:00:53 PM »
 No credit Nick!!! Your welcome! ;D :D ;D
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2017, 04:02:51 PM »
I snatched the other one up Don!
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2017, 04:07:58 PM »
What would it be compared to from web? Or....


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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2017, 04:11:17 PM »
Quote from: SF on February 13, 2017, 04:07:58 PM
What would it be compared to from web? Or....


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Isn't the Yosh 122-00 similar to the Megacycle 126-00??
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2017, 04:35:07 PM »
Almost identical to the 126-20. TT Isle of Man cam.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2017, 08:05:30 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on February 13, 2017, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: sinister902 on February 13, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Well, small change of plans. Ran across a cool vintage speed part and decided with all the new tech I'm throwing at this bike it needs a link to the past so I snatched up an NOS yoshimure 122-00 camshaft for this!



That's pretty rare.  Every once in a while a Yosh 750 camshaft will surface, but I haven't seen any for 550s.

Ya, super rare. 2nd one (Mine is the first) that I have seen in 5 years.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2017, 05:16:33 AM »
I think this ebay seller is trickling them out one at a time and must have a few.....I asked him if he had more and his response was "why would you need two?" probably lists one at a time to keep the price up.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2017, 06:28:29 AM »
He had three and now 0.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2017, 08:36:17 AM »
Some rushed crappy sketches and maths for flywheel comparo

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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2017, 08:43:59 AM »
Quote from: sinister902 on February 14, 2017, 08:36:17 AM
Some rushed crappy sketches and maths for flywheel comparo



Who says high school geometry doesn't come in handy.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2017, 08:47:12 AM »
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2017, 09:10:30 AM »
Pretty cool history, Ole Pops was the man. Too bad they're not the longer version.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2017, 09:27:00 AM »
Quote from: bwaller on February 14, 2017, 09:10:30 AM
Pretty cool history, Ole Pops was the man. Too bad they're not the longer version.

Indeed, but MAGNESIUM for 1973.  Pretty trick!
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #71 on: February 15, 2017, 06:32:29 AM »
Ok, long story short, I don't think the R6 flywheel/stator will be the answer.....





and, according to all of my measurements the tapers are not the same. although an adapter COULD be made, I still don't think it'll be possible to get the flywheel to fit into the cb650 cover.

I drew the adapter up anyway, would look like this:



autocad calculated angle of taper is 5.4 degrees for cb650, 1.57 degrees for R6. I assume with margin of error in my quick measuring that its more like 6* and 2*. I'd have to cut both in half to get accurate measurements using tools I have at hand, which I probably won't do.

Looks like I'll look into the VFR parts, or maybe cbr600rr parts to see if honda used the same taper that new.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2017, 06:37:25 AM by sinister902 »
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2017, 07:11:30 AM »
That surely is a nice 650 cover! :)
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2017, 02:27:16 PM »


whammy. My camshaft came in.
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Re: 1975 CB550 - back to the front burner after 5+yrs
« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2017, 02:34:51 PM »
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2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold
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