Author Topic: Still Working To Get My Garage/Shop Set Up For Me (Read 5554 times)

bill440cars · « **on:** January 30, 2017, 01:29:33 PM »

When my Dad passed, I inherited his place, which included a built on 2 car garage that he had made "Double Length" and added a dividing wall, that was a 2 piece structure, so that the Shop could be separate from the garage, when the weather was cold & he could heat the "shop" area, easier than heating the whole thing. Anyway, I KNEW my Dad was a "Collector" of sorts and I understandably followed in his foot steps. So, when I started trying to incorporate My tool boxes, tools & equipment into the Garage/Shop, I found I had quite a feat on my hands. The Garage/Shop had no room! So, I did a look around and didn't take long to realize that my Dad and I had a lot, of the same tools and such. So, I started looking through what he had and compared that to what I had and quickly decided that I needed to sell what I could, of the "Doubles". So, I went through a lot of those things and decided to keep certain things of his and certain things of mine and try to sell the rest. That went pretty well. And so, between what I sold and what was actually just junk, I was able to pretty much get my tool boxes, shelving and such, in some sort of arrangement. So now, I am at the point that I need to clear some more out, so I can better set things up and get the rest of my motorcycles and parts here and get some kind of organization going, so I can function. I STILL have quite a bit of "Actual Junk" piled up here and there. And things like a 2 door metal cabinet with shelves, that I could put to good use, but it is filled with lots and lots of "Spray Cans of paint and such. There are several old batteries here, lawn mower parts, 2 old junk riding mowers, a tiller and it just goes on and on! I am making SOME headway, but it sure is slow going. ::)At this point, I am sorta wishing that he and I weren't such good "Collectors"! $:-\$ My "Collection" got thinned down quite a bit, before I got here, wish his had. LOL Anyway, still trudging along.... and when I (if I ever do) reach the point to where I can start wrenching on my Motorcycles and cars again, I'll be mighty happy. BTW, been working on this for over 3 years now. Of course, Life & Wife interrupts now and then. But my Wife has been very understanding and That helps.

calj737 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2017, 01:55:39 PM »

I think you are simply taking too long and playing grab-arse instead of clearing it out. Get to work! you have bikes to build, Bill!

Maybe we should throw a "garage party" and have a good old fashioned barn raising style of SOHC community work day. Order up some decent weather, and we will get the gang together and pop down

bill440cars · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:00:07 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on January 30, 2017, 01:55:39 PM

I think you are simply taking too long and playing grab-arse instead of clearing it out. Get to work! you have bikes to build, Bill!

Maybe we should throw a "garage party" and have a good old fashioned barn raising style of SOHC community work day. Order up some decent weather, and we will get the gang together and pop down

Ha! Ha! Ha!

Too Funny! Well, I ain't grabbing nobody's Nothing, cause I am the only one out here.

LOL! Weather don't help. Doesn't help, that my energy level gets in the way, at times. Then there is an occasional bug that gets one of my family down and it seems to put the bite on most everyone, but I have, for the most part, managed to bypass that, except for a few weeks back and I do my usual load up on Chicken Noodle Soup and Orange Juice. Thinking about finding one of those folks who say they will clean up your are, for what they can get out of what they haul off. Got a lot of scrap here. Got such as a lot of nuts bolts, screws, odd pieces of metal, lawn mowers, a couple of old riders, a tiller, the block with rods and pistons of an old small block Chevy motor and I don't know what else, for sure. Managed to make enough room, in the garage, for my Kawasaki '83 GPZ1100, '80 Honda CB750K, '72 Honda SL350K2, '69 Honda SL350K0, '66 Honda CB77 & Suzuki SP250. Got The '80 Honda CB650C in the shop area & '65 Jawa 250 in an Out building. Plus I have about 8 shelves of parts and such, for motorcycles. Working on it, as I can, between doctor's appointments, for Family members, Weather & trips to the lawyer, to get the adoption of my 2 Step Kids & that is finalized, so won't being going there, far as I know. At least I am retired, so I don't have that to deal with. Would help, if I could get more "Output" of this old body.

Johnie · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:05:00 PM »

Good going' there Bill. Should be fun getting your shop in order and moving towards building bikes again. Hey, can you post up a pic of that 69CL350KO? Love those 350 bikes...

bill440cars · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:21:57 PM »

Quote from: Johnie on January 30, 2017, 03:05:00 PM

Good going' there Bill. Should be fun getting your shop in order and moving towards building bikes again. Hey, can you post up a pic of that 69CL350KO? Love those 350 bikes...

Yes, it is something, trying to get this done. I have a picture in my mind, of how I want to set things up. I can't tell you how many times, I run across something and find myself saying, "Dad, what were you thinking?"

I am finding things like a tray that they put on your car window, when you got curb service at an old style place similar to Sonic. I found a pneumatic framing gun, under a pile of junk that was under a metal work table & it works just fine. I found 2 or 3 old style Military telephones, like they used on Mash (Wind it up, to ring the party on the other end and say "over", after you had your say. I found a new temp gauge that was for my Dad's 1956 Plymouth & he traded that car off for a new Dodge Dart Wagon, in 1965. That is just the tip of the iceburg.

BTW, I included a couple of photos of my old '69 SL350K0, like you asked. I do have some interesting items that were in my Granddad's motorcycle shop, up until he passed in Dec of 1968. I have his Lathe, Old Black & Decker 1/2"? Drill on a Drill Press Frame & I already had the fixture that was used to balance the Indian motorcycle crankshafts, after they rebuild them.

Stev-o · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:45:31 PM »

+1, get your arse in gear! 3 years and you want advice now? Pull EVERTHING out and only the good stuff goes back in.

Why is this even part of the conversation? Trash it!!

"There are several old batteries here, lawn mower parts, 2 old junk riding mowers"

You know how many guys here would kill for shop space?!

bill440cars · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2017, 03:53:31 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on January 30, 2017, 03:45:31 PM

+1, get your arse in gear! 3 years and you want advice now? Pull EVERTHING out and only the good stuff goes back in.

Why is this even part of the conversation? Trash it!!

"There are several old batteries here, lawn mower parts, 2 old junk riding mowers"

You know how many guys here would kill for shop space?!

Got it in gear Steve, just seems like the clutch is slipping, at times. Be nice to have a nice size dumpster, I could load up, in a heartbeat. Yeah, I am aware of the type of "work area" that a number of folks have, seen that, on the thread, about that. You and Cal been taking "Motivational Training"? $:-\$ Seems like it. Still getting it, here, Boss.

Stev-o · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:22:13 PM »

Here's 28 pages of motivation but you really outta be out cleaning up that shop!

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,3953.400.html

bill440cars · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:35:46 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on January 30, 2017, 04:22:13 PM

Here's 28 pages of motivation but you really outta be out cleaning up that shop!

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,3953.400.html

Yeah, I have seen some of those, from that thread, back when it was started by Seaweb, I believe? I'm still working on it. Gotta find where, in our area, that I can take old batteries, oil, paint and such And get to where I can load up and haul off junk.

754 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:47:57 PM »

Check the small block for 4 bolt mains, and 202 heads..
The truing stand for the Indian flywheels..is it the big heavy cast iron job..like they use for Harleys..looks sorta like 2 tailstocks off a lathe ? Pic would help..

Johnie · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2017, 04:50:23 PM »

Thanks for those 69 pics Bill. Great looking 350...good luck with the shop.

bill440cars · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2017, 06:55:49 PM »

Quote from: 754 on January 30, 2017, 04:47:57 PM

Check the small block for 4 bolt mains, and 202 heads..
The truing stand for the Indian flywheels..is it the big heavy cast iron job..like they use for Harleys..looks sorta like 2 tailstocks off a lathe ? Pic would help..

I'll have to give it a look see, Frank. I never thought About checking to see if it was a 4 bolt main block or not, as it was my brother's but since the blow up between him and my Dad and I, Whatever he still had here, isn't his anymore (He also has things of my Dad's) Anyway, I would have thought he would have gotten it gone, when we weren't around, but who knows. I'll have to get pictures of the truing stand, a little later, but I won't forget you Frank. One piece is held in place, by a clamp and the other end screws in, to secure the crankshaft. I am sure you could use it on a Harley or just about any motorcycle crankshaft, for that matter. It is kinda rough looking right now. I need to clean it up and try to match that red paint. It ended up sitting in storage, for a couple of years and that didn't help the look. Still mighty solid though. It, The Lathe & the large drill & drill press, are from my Granddad's Shop and I am keeping that stuff. I don't plan on selling it though.

bill440cars · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2017, 07:05:15 PM »

Quote from: Johnie on January 30, 2017, 04:50:23 PM

Thanks for those 69 pics Bill. Great looking 350...good luck with the shop.

You're welcome. And Thanks, Got A Great feeling about this shop. Never had the possibility of this much room before. Closest I had was a 2 car garage, that I used half of it for shop and my Wife's car occupied the other half.

Don R · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2017, 07:46:07 PM »

My plan is do something every day, it can be a small thing. It can be as simple as carrying a part to where it goes. I get relief when I can make room and find it feels good to set myself free from something I know I'll never use.

The things you own end up owning you, so it's better to be owned by a few nice things.

bill440cars · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2017, 12:17:14 AM »

Quote from: Don R on January 30, 2017, 07:46:07 PM

My plan is do something every day, it can be a small thing. It can be as simple as carrying a part to where it goes. I get relief when I can make room and find it feels good to set myself free from something I know I'll never use.

The things you own end up owning you, so it's better to be owned by a few nice things.

I hear you, Don. I have a hard time getting rid of some things, but I am getting better at doing just that. And also, if I just go out there and try to get it done, I don't Accomplish much. But, if I am in the right mind set, I guess you could say, I get alot acco.plishd. And I AM starting to make noticable progress. So, that makes me feel good. Thank you for your input and the others as well.

bill440cars · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2017, 02:24:34 PM »

Quote from: 754 on January 30, 2017, 04:47:57 PM

Check the small block for 4 bolt mains, and 202 heads..
The truing stand for the Indian flywheels..is it the big heavy cast iron job..like they use for Harleys..looks sorta like 2 tailstocks off a lathe ? Pic would help..

Say Frank, here are a couple of photos, of the truing stand. Used to be red, but has aged quite a bit, over a lot of years. I remember my Granddad using this, back in the 1960's and I know it is a lot older than that.

Don R · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2017, 02:14:17 AM »

My problem is 10 750's found me in the same month and although none ran they were priced right. Now a race car job is looming and there's no room to do it. A buyer is interested in some bikes. I'm hoping to make some room and some cash for projects.
I sold my large mig welder with the 300 amp gun (more floor space) and picked up a free Hobart mini mig that needed a little love. It's welding good now and I spent the money on DSS repro 4-4 pipes. Seems like a good trade to me.
The things my parents left me are nice but I also believe they wouldn't want me to be burdened with them either. That said there is a big wooden IH hand crank corn sheller in the front garage. L0L!

bill440cars · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2017, 12:58:51 PM »

Quote from: Don R on February 02, 2017, 02:14:17 AM

My problem is 10 750's found me in the same month and although none ran they were priced right. Now a race car job is looming and there's no room to do it. A buyer is interested in some bikes. I'm hoping to make some room and some cash for projects.
I sold my large mig welder with the 300 amp gun (more floor space) and picked up a free Hobart mini mig that needed a little love. It's welding good now and I spent the money on DSS repro 4-4 pipes. Seems like a good trade to me.
The things my parents left me are nice but I also believe they wouldn't want me to be burdened with them either. That said there is a big wooden IH hand crank corn sheller in the front garage. L0L!

Sure understand the "Space" problem with you, Don. 10 750s, in a month? Whoa, that's
a lot. But, a lot of value there. Hey, if a trade seems good to you, then it's all good, right?
And I am in the same position, as I have things that My Parents left me, as well. Been making decisions on those things too. Now, There Are things that I got from my Dad, that were His Dad's and they came from my Granddad's Motorcycle Shop that was in operation from 1932- Dec. 1968, when he passed. Those things are here to stay, far as I am concerned. They are the Indian Crankshaft Truing Stand, a Very old (yet still works great) Black & Decker Drill, The drill press the drill is mounted on, along with the cabinet the drill press is mounted on and an Atlas Lathe, With a lot of accessories. I used to also have the Spark Plug Cleaner & Tester from there, as well, but it disappeared, during my last move, somehow.

Thanks for your input here, Don.

Don R · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:55:37 PM »

A local guy had a 100 year old lathe posted on my Quad cities Drag Racers Swap meet facebook page. The antique belt drive motor was toast but probably rebuildable and replacable for sure. I should have bought it, it was cheap but I don't have the space.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2017, 10:09:52 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on January 30, 2017, 03:45:31 PM

+1, get your arse in gear! 3 years and you want advice now? Pull EVERTHING out and only the good stuff goes back in.

Why is this even part of the conversation? Trash it!!

"There are several old batteries here, lawn mower parts, 2 old junk riding mowers"

You know how many guys here would kill for shop space?!

I would love to have a cluttered shop space,Any shop space would be great !

754 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 03, 2017, 12:47:00 AM »

Bill, it looks like its probably the factory tool. I checked around a bit.
A bit different looking than the Harley one you see often.. They are a lot heavier.
Pretty cool thing to have from your Grandfather.

bill440cars · « **Reply #21 on:** February 03, 2017, 08:12:56 AM »

Quote from: Don R on February 02, 2017, 09:55:37 PM

A local guy had a 100 year old lathe posted on my Quad cities Drag Racers Swap meet facebook page. The antique belt drive motor was toast but probably rebuildable and replacable for sure. I should have bought it, it was cheap but I don't have the space.

I can sure understand the want, for that. And I can also appreciate the "No Room For It" as well. Ha Ha Ha

My Lathe is an Atlas, Not sure how old exactly, but belt driven and I am pretty sure it is from the 40's or early 50's. Got all kinds of accessories with it and I am SO glad I have the manual with it, as I have only very basic understanding, as to operating it.

bill440cars · « **Reply #22 on:** February 03, 2017, 08:18:34 AM »

Quote from: grcamna2 on February 02, 2017, 10:09:52 PM

Quote from: Stev-o on January 30, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
+1, get your arse in gear! 3 years and you want advice now? Pull EVERTHING out and only the good stuff goes back in.

Why is this even part of the conversation? Trash it!!

"There are several old batteries here, lawn mower parts, 2 old junk riding mowers"

You know how many guys here would kill for shop space?!

I would love to have a cluttered shop space,Any shop space would be great !

Totally understand that, Bill. I have been there myself. Went from living in a trailer park, in a small mobile home, to a 14 x 74 mobile home, to a Travel Trailer (story to go with that and was only for about 6 months. Then a nice 1400 sq ft 3 bedroom/ 2 car garage, to a home with only about 1,000 sq ft (another story there), a short stint in Georgia renting and finally here, in my Mom & Dad's Home, with a nice size shop/garage area & "Making Space"

bill440cars · « **Reply #23 on:** February 03, 2017, 08:28:17 AM »

Quote from: 754 on February 03, 2017, 12:47:00 AM

Bill, it looks like its probably the factory tool. I checked around a bit.
A bit different looking than the Harley one you see often.. They are a lot heavier.
Pretty cool thing to have from your Grandfather.

I agree, I don't remember if my Dad ever said so, but knowing how they (My Granddad & Dad) were, concerning Indian vs Harley, I figured it was an Indian Tool.
BTW, I wish they would have been able to go for some patents, because my Dad & Granddad modified & made some tools, to do some things, on the Indians, without pulling the engine. I don't remember them all, but I do remember my Dad talking about modifying a wrench, to be able to pull the cylinders, without removing the engine from the frame. Then, one day, the Indian Factory Rep came in and saw my Dad had a Chief sitting there, with the cylinders off and immediately started asking how he managed to do that and Dad told him. There were several things they did though, that they just sat down and figured out how to get around doing more work than was needed. I could go on, but I don't want to draw it out so much on here, maybe later, in another thread. Thanks for the interest, Frank

Don R · « **Reply #24 on:** February 03, 2017, 07:54:27 PM »

It's awesome to have heritage like that Bill. My best friend in school lived next to a bike shop. I should have been more of a pest. I remember the big Harleys with the leather saddlebags, reflectors and fringe. They even shared a driveway.

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Author Topic: Still Working To Get My Garage/Shop Set Up For Me (Read 5554 times)