Topic: Something new for the Motogadet geeks

[DaveBarbier]

Software updates is a much needed upgrade. I'd love a developer's kit to do your own programming.

[JoeCooley]

Looks like a cool product. I like the idea of using your phone app instead of the mlock.

[Deltarider]

Delta is a very strange person.

Yes I am... openly and not behind somebody's back...
I'll leave it there, but I'm confident whom it concerns, got the message.

[calj737]

Delta is a very strange person.

Yes I am... openly and not behind somebody's back...
I'll leave it there, but I'm confident whom it concerns, got the message.

Fortunately I have advanced experience in Cryptography. But unfortunately, you still can't be understood. 

I mean, ... and they seem to have in common that they need endless threads to help installing them.

This is the most obtuse post youve ever made. Endless threads installing them? You mean numerous members choosing to install them and asking for assistance, right? Or is it your inane position that it takes more than a single reference post/thread for everyone to install them? Not like the countless threads and posts about timing, point dwell, spark advance, coil resistance, charging issues, faulty harnesses, re-pop harnesses being mated to newer models, etc on this super simple and infinitely reliable old relics. Yeah, sure.

As for why so many ask for guidance, its likely because nearly every person openly admits that they are very new to electrical/electronics and mapping the functionality between non-stock parts is not documented anywhere except on "other's" threads. And shame on someone asking for help! What is the world coming to???

I'll tell you what, Delta, hence forth, anytime someone PMs me to ask for assistance integrating one of these gadgets, I'll direct them to obtain permission from you first. That way, we can all be assured you've blessed their endeavor and that I don't trample on your dominion. Tool.

[Deltarider]

My advice to those that can tell a diode from a relay, would be: do yourself a favor, replace that bulb and ride. And if anybody doubts the adequacy of the charging system (which - echoed over and over - seems to have started this ledmania) have a look here:

[DaveBarbier]

Delta, I don't think you get the m-Unit thing. Probably due to stubbornness because you don't seem to be an idiot. I'm not going to try to explain because there are dozens of threads trying to clear it up for you.

[bambuhiphop]

- Vertical posts are cool. That would really help the physical layout in most applications I think.
- Dig the the larger gauge on the outputs. Handy for multiple accessories.
- Looks like the switch button count was increased.
- The dual aux is my favorite. Being able to program them is intriguing.
- The keyless-Go feature is sweet. If that could work in conjunction with an M-Lock (if you don't have a phone on you) that would be killer.
- Programing via phone is a great way to go.
- Parking location is a nice feature as well.

Had I not just bought a v2 I could be interested in this guy. Some really nice features and the updated physical layout is nice. That said I would still opt for the v2. Without iOS support this thing is a complete non-consider for myself. Now, If they changed that I may take pause, ha!

[Jnel]

I remember when electric widows on a car scared me. I thought it was a fad.  Quoated from my father. He saidthey were too problematic.

My 2 cents.  😁

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[Stev-o]

I remember when electric widows on a car scared me. Quoated from my father. He saidthey were too problematic.

I had an Infinity G35 for over 5 years, electric window switch was the only issue I ever had with that car. Have since traded it....

[calj737]

I remember when electric widows on a car scared me. Quoated from my father. He saidthey were too problematic.

I had an Infinity G35 for over 5 years, electric window switch was the only issue I ever had with that car. Have since traded it....

LOL! All because of a switch? You're tough, Steve  I just replaced the entire drivers door panel switches on a buddies 2007 Silverado HD. 3 different switches in the module, and each had one thing or another wrong. I tried unsuccessfully to persuade the owner to install hand cranks, push up locks, and do away with remote mirror controls to no avail... told him, Delta would not approve of his choices 

[Stev-o]

I remember when electric widows on a car scared me. Quoated from my father. He saidthey were too problematic.

I had an Infinity G35 for over 5 years, electric window switch was the only issue I ever had with that car. Have since traded it....

LOL! All because of a switch? You're tough, Steve  I just replaced the entire drivers door panel switches on a buddies 2007 Silverado HD. 3 different switches in the module, and each had one thing or another wrong. I tried unsuccessfully to persuade the owner to install hand cranks, push up locks, and do away with remote mirror controls to no avail... told him, Delta would not approve of his choices 

Why not install an M-Unit in the Silverado?! 
Or would the GM vehicle reject German engineered devices??

[ekpent]

I remember when electric widows on a car scared me. Quoated from my father. He saidthey were too problematic.

I had an Infinity G35 for over 5 years, electric window switch was the only issue I ever had with that car. Have since traded it....

LOL! All because of a switch? You're tough, Steve  I just replaced the entire drivers door panel switches on a buddies 2007 Silverado HD. 3 different switches in the module, and each had one thing or another wrong. I tried unsuccessfully to persuade the owner to install hand cranks, push up locks, and do away with remote mirror controls to no avail... told him, Delta would not approve of his choices 

Why not install an M-Unit in the Silverado?! 
Or would the GM vehicle reject German engineered devices??

Gotta be made in Mexico to work right.

[calj737]

Eric's got it 

I had to explain to my eldest why we couldn't use an M-Unit in a vintage car he wanted to restore. That was difficult enough. But to use one in a modern diesel? No way- 

[evanphi]

Should I post the scarjo popcorn gif now, or wait until someone starts throwing things?

[scottly]

I've never directed anyone to buy a MotoGadget M-Unit.

Maybe not, but you jumped on me when I tried to advise someone against buying one...

[calj737]

I've never directed anyone to buy a MotoGadget M-Unit.

Maybe not, but you jumped on me when I tried to advise someone against buying one...

Because in that instance (and nearly every other) the OP wasn't asking for an opinion on whether they should, they were seeking understanding on how to configure the unit. You (and others) often embark on a path of dismissing something you don't prefer, or desire, and have never used. I've not seen someone who's purchased the unit ask, "May I install this with your consent?".

If you have no interest in the units, why then do you troll these threads constantly? It's off-putting from someone who obviously has a great deal of technical knowledge, yet chooses to opine endlessly in the negative. I wouldn't build or ride a "brat bike" but I don't insult people who do. I only ever point out the seating posture diminishes rider control. End of input. Get over it already.

Or, aide them in understanding how to install, properly wire, and use the darn thing. I'm sure by now you've probably learned as much about the things as I have.

[scottly]

I'm sure by now you've probably learned as much about the things as I have.

Maybe more; remember when you claimed the Gadget replaced the starter solenoid?

[calj737]

I'm sure by now you've probably learned as much about the things as I have.

Maybe more; remember when you claimed the Gadget replaced the starter solenoid?

Maybe not as much as you think. Actually, the M-Unit does replace the solenoid for some types of bikes, just not ours. Bummer when you're not as smart as you think.

From the installation manual:
7.8.1 Important Notes
M-Unit’s Starter Motor Output „start“
Starter motors which coming with solenoid and a solenoid current consumption of maximum 30A (like Valeo, Bosch, Harley Davidson) can be connected directly to the m-Unit’s „start“ output. In this case a cable diameter of 2,5mm2 has to be applied. All starter motors with external relay (like Japanese Motorcycles) have to be still powered via the OEM relay. In this case m-Unit’s output „start“ is connected with the relay which switches the actual cranking current (>100A). Some Motorcycles have an additional relay to switch the start relay; this second relay is not needed.

[scottly]

I'm sure by now you've probably learned as much about the things as I have.

Maybe more; remember when you claimed the Gadget replaced the starter solenoid?

Maybe not as much as you think. Actually, the M-Unit does replace the solenoid for some types of bikes, just not ours. Bummer when you're not as smart as you think.

From the installation manual:
7.8.1 Important Notes
M-Unit’s Starter Motor Output „start“
Starter motors which coming with solenoid and a solenoid current consumption of maximum 30A (like Valeo, Bosch, Harley Davidson) can be connected directly to the m-Unit’s „start“ output. In this case a cable diameter of 2,5mm2 has to be applied. All starter motors with external relay (like Japanese Motorcycles) have to be still powered via the OEM relay. In this case m-Unit’s output „start“ is connected with the relay which switches the actual cranking current (>100A). Some Motorcycles have an additional relay to switch the start relay; this second relay is not needed.

The M-unit does not replace the starter mounted solenoids on those bikes either, which, in addition to switching the very high starter motor current, also physically shift the starter pinion gear into mesh with the driven gear. This type of solenoid generally requires much higher currents through the solenoid coil than those on our bikes that only draw 3-4 amps, hence the warning of the 30 amp limit.