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Left side cover cb750
« on: April 08, 2017, 03:53:52 PM »
Why is it so hard to find the left-side side cover for a cb750? eBay has many r/s covers but very few left. I finally found a NOS sunrise orange cover to replace my slightly faded original. Almost ten years looking!

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2017, 04:02:54 PM »
I feel ya. I have a little broken off piece on the part that faces the airbag on the left side but can't both repairing as I think it's near impossible to paint back and not stand out.

Victory though, right? How much did it cost you?

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 04:33:54 PM »
$185.00!!

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 04:36:52 PM »
I feel ya. I have a little broken off piece on the part that faces the airbag on the left side but can't both repairing as I think it's near impossible to paint back and not stand out.

Victory though, right? How much did it cost you?

What kind of airbag did yours come with :o ;D

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 04:41:15 PM »
$185.00!!
sheeeze! they must be getting very rare - sometimes you just have to pay up.. i payed $65 for an oem flasher relay!
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 04:47:05 PM »
Why is it so hard to find the left-side side cover for a cb750? eBay has many r/s covers but very few left.

Think about it, L side needs to come off to access electrical, R side does not.
They typically get broken when being removed forcefully.
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 05:15:19 PM »
Kinda what I figured, but the r/s has the hole for the oil cap and seems weaker.

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 07:56:54 PM »
Damn. That's a lot of pretty pennies. Once the JB weld repair of the cracks on my covers fail they're probably going to be thousands! I should learn how to perform the Honda paint job.

You know, the airbag that runs air to the carb-a-mabobs, to the metal square vroom vroom box.


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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2017, 07:49:42 AM »
So shiny. I'd never forgive myself after buying new nice ones and damaging them.

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2017, 09:45:30 PM »
Can't you get a blank one and paint it? Many sites sell blank covers. I'm in the same situation. My left side cover shattered when attempting to remove.

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2017, 03:15:23 AM »
I bought fiberglass covers to my K6 in early 80's. Honda OEM cracked very easy. I know since then that is not good to lean bike to the leg pressing on the cover.
The fiberglass version is very durable. Maybe not available.
Find a local painter and buy these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB750-Side-Covers-71-76-Set-/172619009759
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2017, 04:53:07 AM »
Yes, I could have done that, but I wanted original paint to match the rest of the bike.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2017, 07:25:55 AM »
I think it's also near impossible to match the honda paint job. I've seen kits out there. Has anyone used these with success?

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2017, 12:21:20 PM »
Why is it so hard to find the left-side side cover for a cb750?

Because when the bikes were just old junky used bikes the side cover rubber would shrink and harden and then the wind on the highway would peel the left sidecover off the bike above 60mph. The right is held in by the oil cap and will bang about and eventually crack and break but won't instantly be set free to the wind. After I lost 2 that way I started buying all the left side covers I could find at swap meets and yard sales (pre-internet days). I'm sure I am not the only one hoarding these.
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2017, 01:48:41 PM »
I think it's also near impossible to match the honda paint job. I've seen kits out there. Has anyone used these with success?
Even if you use the same paint codes?

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 02:15:25 PM »
I think it's also near impossible to match the honda paint job. I've seen kits out there. Has anyone used these with success?
Even if you use the same paint codes?


There are no paint codes.  Plus new paint would never match 40 year old faded paint
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2017, 02:23:53 PM »
I think it's also near impossible to match the honda paint job. I've seen kits out there. Has anyone used these with success?
Even if you use the same paint codes?


yes, no, maybe. Depends how good you are. Even if you use the same paint codes some of the honda paints are "candy" paints like Candy Ruby Red and Candy Blue Green (There are 9 different candy colors across the years for just CB750s). The thing about a candy paint is that it carries the color in the clear itself instead of the opaque base coat. That means that each successive coat darkens the color's hue and depending on the base coat can change the color's tint. For example Candy Bacchus Olive is not a green paint, it is the result of Candy Gold over Metallic Blue base (or vice versa but I think that's right - let's just assume it is). Too few clear coats and the color is too blue, too many and the color shifts back to too gold but it also gets darker and harder to see the flake through. The skill is getting just the right amount of coats to emulate the factory paint.

The other problem is...does anybody know what the original color's hue and tint is actually supposed to be? paint is susceptible to fade and candy paint is twice if not more "fragile" when it comes to fade. So unless you have a NOS part that has not seen the light of day in 40 years it's hard to say what is "correct". Professional restorers struggle with "correct" hue on cars with single stage opaque laquer paints so candy paints...forget about it there is no "100% accurate replica"

Finally candy paint is subject to variation. Hondas painted on an overcast Monday may be a different shade from Hondas painted on a sunny Friday due to weather conditions and human error. So there is a "range" to get it right.

It's one of those things where close enough is good enough and honestly don't sweat it too much. As long as the bike is shiny and it's approximately the right shade you are good.
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2017, 02:31:53 PM »

There are no paint codes.  Plus new paint would never match 40 year old faded paint

There are "Paint codes" they are just meaningless because they belong to a company that is long out of business. Honda America endorsed a company called Lubri-tech to be the aftermarket supplier of touch-up and collision repair paint for honda motorcycles because Honda was not supplying any itself. When you see a honda paint code it's usually a Lubri-tech code. The problem is that there is no rosetta stone to translate a lubri-tech code into a PPG, dupont, or BASF paint code so it's worthless.
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2017, 02:34:00 PM »
I know for sure that there are paint codes. My bike would MV and PB27MC for Planet Blue Metallic.

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2017, 02:52:30 PM »
I know for sure that there are paint codes. My bike would MV and PB27MC for Planet Blue Metallic.


those are colorrite paint codes. They are NOT honda factory paint codes. They were determined by color-rite matching the paint to an existing piece of bodywork, it does not correspond to anything official from honda and is completely dependent on how good a piece of bodywork colorrite used to match.

Are there paint codes? sure - anybody who has color matched is going to have a code for the paint they used.

Are there Honda Paint codes? sort of -they are technically Lubri-tech codes that were officially endorsed by Honda

Are there Honda factory paint codes that can be used to purchase a modern paint formula? No.

Close enough is good enough, or as good as you are going to get.
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2017, 02:55:26 PM »
I know for sure that there are paint codes. My bike would MV and PB27MC for Planet Blue Metallic.


those are colorrite paint codes. They are NOT honda factory paint codes. They were determined by color-rite matching the paint to an existing piece of bodywork, it does not correspond to anything official from honda and is completely dependent on how good a piece of bodywork colorrite used to match.

Are there paint codes? sure - anybody who has color matched is going to have a code for the paint they used.

Are there Honda Paint codes? sort of -they are technically Lubri-tech codes that were officially endorsed by Honda

Are there Honda factory paint codes that can be used to purchase a modern paint formula? No.

Close enough is good enough, or as good as you are going to get.
I think I'll get the tank and the sides covers painted at the same time so they at least match. Like you said close enough is good enough.

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2017, 04:18:08 PM »

There are no paint codes.  Plus new paint would never match 40 year old faded paint

There are "Paint codes" they are just meaningless...

Correct, let me rephrase it:

There are no usable Honda paint codes.
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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2017, 04:32:48 PM »
You can get a pretty close representation of original color under the tank/side cover badges.  My left side cover cracked like many others.  I tried the cyanoacrylate/baking soda method and it has held up better than I expected.  I had a crack in the upper left part and the bottom nubbin that attaches to the frame broke off.  The cyano/baking soda is damn strong!  I am VERY careful when I remove it and have silicone greased the attachment rubber to ease stresses.

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2017, 05:48:30 PM »
 The reason I needed the cover is because I entered my 750K2 in the grand national meet of the Antique Motorcycle club.  I scored 93.5 out of a possible 100 points. The faded left cover cost me half a point. Modern tires cost another point. This year I should be at 96 to 97 points. (Sunrise orange color)

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2017, 07:26:42 PM »
youre a brave or foolish man to go in a show....Im afraid I ride my bikes too much to be worried about getting a hundred points, but I respect your efforts...my son is an engineer and his 73 Ducati 350 resto is as close to perfection as I think its humanly possible, but Im sure he has a nut on wrong or something.

To get back to your sidecover issue, the best advice I can give is lube the holding grommets with Vaseline or Avon Skin So Soft and lift the covers off slowly and carefully.
I have fixed a cracked side cover using superglue poured in the crack on the backside and then sprinkle baking soda/powder on the superglue. It worked perfectly to allow me to keep a perfect original sidecover that otherwise may have been consigned to the parts pile, yet allows my bike to 'look' perfect. And its incredibly strong, dont know why.
Good luck with your show.

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2017, 08:21:31 PM »
youre a brave or foolish man to go in a show....Im afraid I ride my bikes too much to be worried about getting a hundred points, but I respect your efforts...my son is an engineer and his 73 Ducati 350 resto is as close to perfection as I think its humanly possible, but Im sure he has a nut on wrong or something.

To get back to your sidecover issue, the best advice I can give is lube the holding grommets with Vaseline or Avon Skin So Soft and lift the covers off slowly and carefully.
I have fixed a cracked side cover using superglue poured in the crack on the backside and then sprinkle baking soda/powder on the superglue. It worked perfectly to allow me to keep a perfect original sidecover that otherwise may have been consigned to the parts pile, yet allows my bike to 'look' perfect. And its incredibly strong, dont know why.
Good luck with your show.
I'm going to have to try that super glue baking soda trick. I need to try and save my side cover. A section broke off with the fastener attached.

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2017, 09:07:20 PM »
I think it's also near impossible to match the honda paint job. I've seen kits out there. Has anyone used these with success?

I did my K1 side covers last Spring.  For my purposes it was definitely a success.  It's obviously not an exact match for the 46 year old faded factory tank paint, but it's far better than the cheap-o side covers and Home Depot spray paint I've been rocking for the last 12 years.  The side covers and badges are repros fro DSS, and the paint is pre-mixed rattle cans from VMR Paints.  I have a spray gun and a decent amount of experience using it, but didn't feel like dealing with all of that for such a small project.  I was really pleased with how well the can sprayed and with the results, and I don't think (with my experience at least) that I could have done a better job with my spray gun. 

When it came down to it, I wanted "stock looking" side covers, and I had long since given up on finding a good, matching stock pair for less than an entire paycheck.  When it was all said and done I think I spent about $400 on these, and they're brand new so I won't ever have to worry about them getting brittle in the foreseeable future.  I don't spend that kind of money easily, especially on something purely cosmetic, but this has been a looooong time coming, and it was well worth it, in my opinion.     






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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2017, 05:15:17 AM »
I might be obsessed. :)

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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2017, 06:00:58 AM »
Aint nothing wrong with your rattle can painting........

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« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2017, 10:46:44 AM »
Love that green color!

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Re: Left side cover cb750
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2017, 10:58:26 AM »
 I always remind everyone to get new rubber grommets and use a little silicone on the tabs. They can be safety pinned on the back side of the tab to avoid loss/theft.
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« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2017, 03:41:14 PM »
Aint nothing wrong with your rattle can painting........

I appreciate it, but the results were due in large part to the quality of the paint and the spray nozzles.  This stuff is no hardware store rattle can paint, and the price reflects that, but it's a good alternative to a decent spray gun set-up if you're not planning on doing a lot of spraying.  The best part is the 2K, chemically hardened clear coat in a spray can.  You push down a button to break the seal on the hardener, and then you spray and get the same hard, fuel-resistant clear you'd get from mixing it yourself.