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SLR650?
« on: October 26, 2006, 12:20:29 PM »
I am looking for a cheap ish tough winter bike that is a bit of fun and can be used when the roads are crap and wet and slippy. Has anyone had experience or know anything about the SLR 650?
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 12:54:35 PM »
I wanted to buy one and convert it to a flattrack-styled bike. I testdrove it, but found it rather boring to drive. It only makes 39 HP I think, so that's even less than my 550. The NX650 makes a little bit more power from the same engine, but has less low end grunt.
It would be a good bike for commuting, and is great to ride in the city.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 01:01:48 PM »
Thanks. Can you change the rear sprocket to give it some more oomph?

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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2006, 08:20:16 AM »
Jim, ever thought of a KLR650?
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2006, 12:35:18 PM »
Nick,
Just looked at them on ebay and bike trader here in the UK, looks good. Do you have any experience of them?
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 04:24:04 PM »
Nick,
Just looked at them on ebay and bike trader here in the UK, looks good. Do you have any experience of them?
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I had a '99 KLR between selling my BMW and getting my VFR. Rode it for half of a season and put 15,000km on it, including doing the Alberta 2000 Rally. It was one of the best road bikes I've ever ridden. Easy to work on and with plenty of power for cruising at 110-120kph. I knew that I would seldom ride it on gravel or in the dirt so I put lowering links at the rear and moved the forks up in the triple clamps, to lower the whole thing by about 2". I also put a lowered front mudguard on it and a Scottoiler.

So, I hear you ask, why did I sell it? At the time I was just starting in my motorcycle instructing business and knew that I would be covering big distances on my bike; plus I wanted just a tinch more power. And coincidentally I got a stonking deal on a left over '00 VFR800 in early '01. So it had to go.

I would buy another one in a flash if I had the $$ and wasn't so besotted with these older bikes!
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 01:21:07 AM »
Nick,
Thanks. I have looked at a couple of KLRs, but I have decided it is probably too radical for what I want. I am now looking at a BMW F650, it is a more stylish bike and more fitting for someone of my age!  ;)
I think it is probably not as quick as a KLR, but it should be quicker than the SLR 40bhp! The BMW supposedly has almost 50bhp and weighs 421 pounds.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 06:17:58 AM »
Nick,
Thanks. I have looked at a couple of KLRs, but I have decided it is probably too radical for what I want. I am now looking at a BMW F650, it is a more stylish bike and more fitting for someone of my age!  ;)
I think it is probably not as quick as a KLR, but it should be quicker than the SLR 40bhp! The BMW supposedly has almost 50bhp and weighs 421 pounds.
Jim.

The F650 is a more sophisticated piece, and it shows. Pricier than the KLR and more expensive if you have an ooopsy on it. Have the electics checked carefully if you get one since there have been some question marks over charging reliability on these machines.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2006, 09:01:46 AM »
Nick,
I managed to find one a 95 Funduro F650, with 13k miles. It is in very good condition aso I will keep my fingers crossed. I joined the BMW forum and asked a lot of q's, but they are not as helpful as the good old Honda boys  :'(
Jim.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2006, 09:28:45 AM by SteveD CB500F »

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 09:04:47 PM »
Thats one nice looking bike!
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2006, 12:44:07 AM »
Outlaw,
Cheers. Not a bad looker, except for that ugly exhaust and the 80s style F650 sticker on the rear cowl. I plan to get a Remus can, should help.
SteveD can give an impartial report on how it rides!  ::) He gave it a blast for about 20 miles yesterday.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2006, 02:16:28 AM »
the decals are easy...get rid of them and have a nice clean beemer
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2006, 04:16:53 AM »
Agreed. Just taken them off and it looks much better.
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2006, 09:56:37 AM »
If my Interceptor didnt have such a nice color combination and nice aftermarket decalling i would have removed it and painted the bike black by now...but as it is the decals were done right and update the bikes looks...have had a couple people think it was an 05 instead of an 85
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2006, 01:05:44 PM »
Any pics?

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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2006, 03:02:20 PM »



Not the clearest pics in the world but they were taken the day i just paid off the bike.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2006, 02:03:24 AM »
Looks in great condition for 20+ years old, if a bit dusty!! what roads do you use?  ;)
A mate of mine has just picked up the 1000cc version from late 80s and it rides very well.

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2006, 08:52:41 PM »
The dust was from being in the used section if the local honda dealer for a couple years. currently its covered up and under snow
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2006, 01:52:05 AM »
Bloody hell mate, you leave it outdoors??

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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2006, 09:23:28 PM »
not by choice...the garage where my K4 is sitting at the moment is a mess of parts and other supplies at the moment...hopefully if it warms up a bit the Interceptor and my roomates Harley will be in the same garage with the K4.
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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2006, 07:07:50 PM »
Ah bum, I only got to see this thread way late, Jim; I've owned an SLR from new in 1998, and used it daily for 18months. Its a perfect combination of handling and braking, but it has some problems. No matter what you do with the gearing there's no way you would EVER get it to pass 95mph - I tried them all! Fork seals are very rapid wear even from new, soon has oil pissing down the legs. There are some design funnies due to it being a Montessa design  using Honda parts, so the main ignition fuse isn't in the fuse box its on the side of the CDI box....under the tail! Choke cable rusts up easily, and the choke plunger (an enrichener circuit :-( ) corrodes open or closed. The seat cover splits easily on segment joins, being a roadified trailbike.

However - I never threw it up the road though its well abused and mistreated. Reacts well to road tyres being fitted. A lot lighter than the Nx650 Dominator. Once the rear suspension is dialled up harder its a great handler.

The BMW however; you'll find the Funduro front brake very squeaky and moany. And the clutch. The clutch is the BIG weak point on these. The engine bottom end is very identifably a Rotax, and is shared with the first two models of Aprilia Pegaso. Only differences are the top end, the Pegaso had a FIVE-valve head, the BMW has a four valve head.

Anyway, back to the clutch. Its still pretty much the same unit as in all those air-cooled Rotax trail. bikes; weak as f*ck. It'll moan if you try to slip it, you'll get used to its on-off ways but use it as an on-off switch until you ARE used to it. BMW refused to sign off on the design - the original F650s were built by Aprilia for BMW for about 6 years, yours may be one of those - until extra mods were made to the clutch. There's an odd design foible in that the clutch is attached to the engine as normal....but instead of when you pull the lever you work a cam or pushrod to PUSH the clutch apart. on this design part of the cluthc mechanism is actually mounted in the side panel! So when you work the clutch, the mechanism to disengage works by PULLING the plates apart into the side panel section, if you see what I mean! The aircooled bikes were notorious for alignment problems and rapid wear - I had a Rotax-engined Jawa 500R also - the Aprilia Pegaso saw the alignment and rapid wear sorted, but the clutch was still on-off and moaned. And apparently the BMW is the same.

The ONLY other problem is very simple; the front end "washes out" VERY easily and can high-side you! Yet the identical geometry Pegaso using upside-down forks never did, and is the MOST amazing bike you'll ever ride! Whey the difference? Noone knows, just watch for it.

Performance-wise you'll get a genuine 105 out of the BMW.....but the 5-valve Aprilia head is good for a genuine 115! Where the Honda DOES score in performance is the almost-DECADES of Honda 4-valve 650 tuning parts and knowledge thats out there! Especially in the USA. So that 95mph barrier on the SLR would have been easily overcome.