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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2017, 12:06:48 PM »
For long hauls out in the middle of nowhere a can or 2 of stew, soup or something comes in handy.  Strap it behind the engine for 45 min and you have a hot meal.  A few Ziploc bags come in handy too.  Keeps wallet and documents dry in heavy rain.

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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2017, 12:25:32 PM »
Great idea, i should carry my passport/ id in a waterproof bag.
 I like your idea of warming on enginem cuz I really dont want to pack a stove and fuel.
I like to pack a spare points plate, tube, cables if I remember. And jumpers I made that fit in a ciggy package, tire tools patches and a pump..
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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2017, 07:20:09 PM »
Throttle stops can be useful but when in hilly country they can be a PITA. With traffic and speeds constantly up and down I find them useless. Doesn't hurt to have one mounted though.
That's a MUCH smaller load on Ofreen's bike than what I saw! Did he mention the kitchen sink? LOL Where's the mileage at now Greg? I need to show you what a NOS old foam seat feels like sometime with a pair of low mileage NOS Koni shocks.

Jerry, you are right about the throttle locks in the hills, but I use the one on mine a lot.  There are plenty of long flat straights out there. 

Here's a pic from 2011 the day before we met up in Spanish Fork.  The load is not a lot different.  The only addition I had on there was a gas can I carried on that trip because I was uncertain about the availability of gas between Ely and Delta, Utah that time of year.  As it turned out, there was gas at the Nevada-Utah line so I didn't need it.



One thing different since then is I replaced the 30+ year old Eureka two man tent and thermarest at the right with the more compact items on the left in the dry bag, which reduced its size a fair amount. I doubt the new stuff will last as long as the old still serviceable tent and pad, but at my age they won't need to.  In the meantime it makes for easier packing.



And the sale price for the old 750 today is $157,718, no doubt will be a little higher tomorrow.
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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2017, 09:40:13 PM »
What did you replace the pad with?
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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2017, 09:59:11 PM »
I'm curious about the pad too, as well as the sleeping bag? It looks like the package of tent, pad, and bag is smaller than my bag alone. ???
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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2017, 09:15:40 AM »
Ely to Delta is about the same distance as Ely to Tonopah. Pulled in to Tonopah with 4.98 gallons of a 5 gallon tank gone after riding slow and tucking down. The desert did NOT like my Harley! And to think I almost filled an empty plastic soda bottle with gas before I pulled out.  ::)
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« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2017, 10:10:28 AM »
I got caught with less than a full tank on a gasless Sunday. A full tank would have made the trip. I tucked in, slowed down and made it home. The next day there wasn't enough gas in it to start it. 
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« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2017, 06:16:43 PM »
What did you replace the pad with?
I'm curious about the pad too, as well as the sleeping bag? It looks like the package of tent, pad, and bag is smaller than my bag alone. ???

The mattress is in the green stuff sack, a Kymlit Static V.  Very small and light and comfortable.  The tent is a Scorpion II.  My brother got back into touring when he bought his Harley and showed up with those two items.  I had been soldiering on with my stone age stuff, and I knew the new stuff was a lot less massive than my relics, but when I saw what he had and heard how cheap it was I knew it was time to get a little more modern.  The sleeping bag I use is a Woods backpacking bag rated down to 0F I've had for over 20 years.  It gets down to the size of a loaf of bread in the compression sack.
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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2017, 10:13:40 PM »
I'm guessing your sleeping bag is down filled? I bought my Alpine brand bag specifically for touring in the late '70s. It's "hollow-fill", which I chose over down due to being able to better retain insulation value when wet, the trade-off being greater bulk. Even firmly packed into the stuff bag, it's about 10" diameter by about 16", and that takes a great deal of effort. I used one of those blue roll-up closed cell foam pads, but at less than 1/2 inch thick, it was only slightly better than sleeping directly on the ground. Back then, I used a "tube tent", which was basically an oversized garbage bag, open on both ends. You ran a rope through both ends and tied it to a couple of trees, or a couple of bikes. I bought a cheap tent at Wally World for the 2012 relay, but faced with nasty weather I decided against camping.
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2017, 05:51:53 AM »
I'm guessing your sleeping bag is down filled?

It uses 3M Thinsulate, which a little more tolerant of wet and being compressed long term than down.  Even so, I keep it in a pillow case when its not being used.

Back in the good old days, I'd roll up in some visqueen if I thought it was going to rain.  It worked sorta.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2017, 06:16:56 AM »
All great advice so far especially from Frank and Ofreen the long distance gurus! I have done cross-country 5 times on CB750s (northern route, southern route etc) as well as a few other long distance travels (Europe, Mexico, UK).

Ofreen was spot on with less is more. Keep it light with luggage and it will improve your riding experience. I have always used the stock seat with no issues but everyone is different. Handlebar choice is important: lower bars give you more of a lean forward so the wind deflects down (good if you have no fairing). Ive also used bars with pull back so I was more upright and this gives your legs more choice for moving around. I never used a fairing for any of my long distance trips but now that I am older I probably would. Makes a big difference. Mechanically I never broke down with a problem that couldnt be fixed on the road or close to it (punctures, chain falling off, electrical). Overall the CB750 if running right initially will get you where you want to go.

Here is setup I liked: Pelican topbox on the back for securables. Small magentic tank bag for easy on/off at gas stations and bag on the back with tools/clothes camping gear.



This bike went round Europe (6000 miles, 3 weeks), trans-USA/Mexcio (16,000 miles, 2 months) just like this with pull back bars, K1 seat, no fairing...did great!



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Bottom line: the CB750 is a great touring bike and can go anywhere.

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2017, 11:57:17 AM »
... Ofreen the long distance gurus!.

Thanks amigo, but when it comes to traveling on a CB750 I am an apprentice grasshopper compared to your master. My main touring has been on the BMW GS and CBR these last 20 years. I've been around but nothing like your exploits. That is one reason I have enjoyed the relays so much - they have gotten me back on the 750 for distance riding. It reminded me how good they are, that demonstrated we don't need 1800cc's and electronic crap up the wazzoo to do real miles. In fact, tho I appreciate technology, it can get in the way of the experience, which is one reason why I tour on a 27 year old CBR1000F and a 24 year old R100GS. I just don't want all the garbage and complexity they lard the new bikes with.
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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2017, 04:16:06 PM »
Surprised I haven't seen it mentioned, maybe I missed it. I put a camelback in the mesh lining of my jacket, I don't think it's designed for it but it fits perfectly. Fill it with cool water and it is pretty refreshing on your back. Also you can drink under a full face helmet, which is key. Traveling light and staying hydrated is really all I've got. I carry a good toolkit, and some basic spares. Pack everything into stuff sacks and then a dry bag.  Still trying to find a way to put my bicycle on the back.
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2017, 11:06:24 PM »
 I saw a bike that folded up so the wheels were side by side and the handlebars were flat. That would be close to fitting on a luggage rack or mounted like a saddlebag.
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« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2017, 10:36:50 AM »
How did I miss this thread!

I've done three big rides/tours on my '74 cb750K. Starting small with a 800 mile tour, then 3,000 mile and finally a 5,600 mile tour that eventually pushed my engine to the point that it required a top end rebuild.

All of these were done horribly unprepared in hindsight. I got lucky, but also learned a lot, and know what I'll do on my next long tour (this summer I hope!)

- suspension goes a LONG way for your comfort. I was on original suspension then. now I've got Ikon's in the back and progressive springs up front.

- Chain maintenance is important - I went through a cheap chain in a week on one tour. Good quality plus lubing and checking tension multiple times a day is critical

- I've always used electronic ignitions. Points works great too, just requires more attention. I've had a Dyna S die, so I'll always have a backup in my bag now just incase.

- for tall guys, the riding position is a bit cramped. Adding highway pegs would have been great

- i'm considering a softer throttle return spring. My cables are silky smooth, I'm sure half the spring tension would still be enough to snap it shut.

- I'm jetting at sea level. I had a hard time making it over high mountain passes as I got into the rockies. Next time I might even bring a set of smaller jets if I spend lots of time around there

- making sure your wiring harness is 100%, no dried rock hard wires, cracking connectors, etc will save you a lot of headaches on the side of the road. If you don't have confidence your bike can handle a sustained heavy rain soaking, find a way to get it there.

 

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« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2017, 12:44:37 PM »
I highly recommend the Corbin Gunfighter seat. I did a 9000 mile trip on it once and it was comfy the whole way. Also, the Don Vesco Rabid Transit fairing has been an excellent upgrade as well. Actually increased my fuel mileage.
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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2017, 05:08:29 PM »
I purchased new throttle cables and got them real smooth.  Found a spring at Lowes that is  1/3 the force of the stock spring (same length) so now the throttle is real easy on the hand/wrist with very little slack.  Wish I had that back when I did long hauls. 

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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2017, 05:19:05 PM »
I purchased new throttle cables and got them real smooth.  Found a spring at Lowes that is  1/3 the force of the stock spring (same length) so now the throttle is real easy on the hand/wrist with very little slack.  Wish I had that back when I did long hauls. 

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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2017, 07:05:20 PM »
Most folks here already know I won't kit the long road without my 'Jammer. What some don't know is: also with my Lowers attached. At first I thought they were overkill, not real pretty, etc., until I rode 3 back-to-back days of 2700 miles total. After that, every long trip gets 'em back on it.

The seat: the OEM K2 seat was the best on all of the 750s I have ever ridden or owned. Just that one: the later ones are thinner under the butt-bones, and the earlier ones were thinner, period. The K2 and early K3 (with the dropped line along the side, right where the bones are) were the best. I recently obtained a brand new one (won't tell how...) and am working on getting the correct cover for it, for my next long rides.

In the back: it helps a lot if you can have something to rest back against. It can be a pad or knapsack (or her, if she doesn't mind), but should be both soft and firm or it doesn't help much past 400 miles or so.

I'm a fan of the tall gears for the long rides. I have 19/48 sprockets on mine now (with an increased-output engine, though) and it makes 75 MPH the thing of sweet dreams and soft sounds, with 4th gear becoming passing gear on 2-lanes. MPG is higher IF the speeds are over 70 MPH: at 65 MPH it is too tall gearing, makes it feel sluggish and drops the MPG from the laboring. This is with a 4.00 (aka 110) rear tire: with the 120/90-18 rear, the 18T is OK, while the 130/90-18 rear puts it in between the 18T and 19T for the 4.00/110 rear size. I prefer to run 104-link chains, too, as it increases the wheelbase about 1+ inch, lowering the shock from the rear wheel to my back, noticeably.

Carry a spare set of points or points plate, 2 sets sparkplugs, maintenance wrenches for oil changes and chain adjust, and points setting (I use a static light on the road, for the latter). Leave home with good tires, and for long rides, 2 spare tubes. I use an air hose that screws into a sparkplug hole (no, it will not make the tire explode...) in case of flats, also a patch kit, tire gage. I also usually carry an oil change with me, just 'cuz I am picky about that stuff. Can of chain lube.

Install a lighter spring on the throttle return for the dual-cable setup: it is safer by far to have both cables intact. The right spring is at Ace Hardware, about $3. It is just enough to overcome the cable friction, so my [built-in, pre-K3] cruise-control seldom gets used, and my wrist doesn't get tired, either. (Boy, it used to!)

Camera. Water (I like to stop for Mac's iced tea...). Snacks (jerky?) that are salty. No maps (maps are for wimps, IMHO). :D

Tank bag, if you don't mind it scuffing the paint, makes a terrific way to reshuffle the weight toward the front somewhat, greatly improving the cornering on non-straight roads. Mine has a clear map pocket I sewed onto the top, kept the maps my wife wanted all neatly folded up while we rode...

Tent. Sleeping bag, small tarp (big enough for both under-and-over), my jacket is my pillow.

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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2017, 08:53:46 PM »
I used a tent for years while going with my son to get his Eagle Scout. Then I changed over to this should have done it sooner.

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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2017, 03:51:11 AM »
A GUN!
Is that really a must have item when touring over in the US?
Cripes, usually a cold beer or 2 will get you out of a fix here.
Ever needed to use the gun to get out of a sticky situation, while touring?
Been meaning to come over there and do a ride and now wondering if a gun should added to the toolkit?

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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2017, 01:11:42 PM »
Something to lean back against can make a big difference in comfort. If camping, it is hard to beat backpacking gear. Very compact and lightweight. A kit to repair a flat tire is worth its weight in gold.

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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2017, 03:40:28 PM »
A GUN!
Is that really a must have item when touring over in the US?

I've never felt the need. Laws vary from state to state as well, so you will need to be aware of the laws for each state you plan to travel through. I find it easier to avoid those situations than to rely on brandishing a weapon to settle an issue. I am pro-carry, but have found it simpler to rely on my wits.  8)
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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2017, 04:30:45 PM »
A GUN!
Is that really a must have item when touring over in the US?
Cripes, usually a cold beer or 2 will get you out of a fix here.
Ever needed to use the gun to get out of a sticky situation, while touring?
Been meaning to come over there and do a ride and now wondering if a gun should added to the toolkit?

ABSOLUTELY anywhere I go plus a backup on or off a bike.
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Re: Long range cb750 riders?
« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2017, 06:08:21 AM »
A GUN!
Is that really a must have item when touring over in the US?
Cripes, usually a cold beer or 2 will get you out of a fix here.
Ever needed to use the gun to get out of a sticky situation, while touring?
Been meaning to come over there and do a ride and now wondering if a gun should added to the toolkit?

ABSOLUTELY anywhere I go plus a backup on or off a bike.


How do you address the varying laws from state to state? Concealed carry permits issued in one state are not honored by all other states, only some (if any). Just the act of carrying a concealed weapon without the proper credentials (permit) in some states can get you 5 years in prison (or more). AFAIK the only legal way to carry through some states without proper credentials would be for the weapon to be secured, unloaded, in a locked case. Will said "meth head" wait while you procure and load your weapon? "Stand your ground" and self defense laws also vary from state to state, and what might be considered self defense in your home state could very well land you in jail for manslaughter, or even murder in another state. As far as I'm concerned, until concealed carry laws are uniformly recognized equally in every state, then "long haul" concealed carry across state lines is every bit as dangerous as the motorcycling endeavor we are participating in.

Enjoy the ride and steer clear of the inner city of large metropolitan areas would be my advice. Pay attention to your surroundings, and if a place doesn't "feel right" then simply ride on to the next stop. This won't cover every situation, but as I noted before, I've never been in that kind of situation in nearly 50 years so far, and looking forward to 50 more.  8)
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Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,148188.msg1688494.html#msg1688494
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,110931.msg1248354.html#msg1248354
                                    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,48858.msg515204.html#msg515204
Follow up on your damn posts: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,144305.msg1791605.html#msg1791605
Taiwanese Cam Chain Tensioners:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,155043.msg1774841.html#msg1774841
Gumtwo Seat Cover: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,164440.msg1897366.html#msg1897366
Primary Drive: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,166063.msg1919278.html#msg1919278
Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
630 to 530 conversion: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180710.msg2094423.html#msg2094423

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