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Do you wear ear protection on your rides?  Choose your protection method:

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ear wax
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huh, what did you say?
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Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« on: December 14, 2006, 02:00:06 PM »
Too many years to late, but I finally use protection in my ears.
I am 34 and already have 30% hearing loss in my right ear due to years of rock concerts and dirt bike riding with a screaming two stroke in my right ear. ;D

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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2006, 02:05:02 PM »
So far, I don't wear any. The exhaust is a stock 4-into-4 so pretty quiet, and I typically never go faster than about 70 and even at that, it's for brief periods. If I'm wearing the full-face, it's very quiet. As a matter of fact, with it, my bike never sounded better.  :)
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2006, 02:31:29 PM »
what you say??
speak up
old people are tying to listen??

yes I suffer from partial deafness, and definitely need some ear protection

the wife says it is selective deafness - could be true - just didn't quite catch her lips saying the same thing...

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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2006, 02:38:18 PM »
On long rides, the wind noise is very fatiguing and I've noticed that with ear plugs, I arrive at my destination alert and not all run down.  I get poked fun at alot for doing it, but I too am already at 30% loss, so I'm trying to hold onto what I've got.  It just plain makes the ride more enjoyable!
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 02:50:01 PM »
I wear earplugs when I'm out for more than about 30 minutes. It's nothing to do with exhaust noise - it's the wind noise past my Arai helmet. If I forget, I find that motorway runs leave me with ringing in my ears for hours afterwards.

This is a serious issue for "touring" motorcyclists. I have done about 8000 miles this year, which is getting towards the "touring" level.

Another debate can be had over how good plugs actually are. I have tried various cheap and not-so-cheap versions and may yet try the "made to measure" plugs.

When you get to my age, you worry about stuff like this. Bob - you obviously never went to any Status Quo concerts when you were young.
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 03:12:12 PM »
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Bob - you obviously never went to any Status Quo concerts when you were young.

I did take my daughter to a U2 concert many years ago at a local spot called Pine Knob, under the pavilian about 4 rows back from the stage. I think she was about 15. I could feel the base notes on my chest  :o and after it was over and we were walking to the car everything sounded like I was under about 10 layers of blankets. Other than a couple of concerts for her, I was never into the concert scene. I can't even tell you how many times I had to listen to Eye of The Tiger at home.. :D
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2006, 03:33:58 PM »
The ear plugs that I am using are made by Heartech.
http://www.heartech.co.il/

They were developed by an audiologist and work very well.  They are reusable, made of silicone, and are washable.  I paid $14 for three pair and they came with a carrying case.  The disposible types are not as good IMO.

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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2006, 03:34:56 PM »
I wear plugs when I ride my SR500 on the interstate.  Can't be bothered in town.  On my CB750 I haven't noticed much need, especially with my full-face helmet.  2 into 1 exhausts.  Wife says she doesn't even hear me pull into the driveway on the Honda.  On the Yamaha, she knows when I'm still down the block.

Interesting to know at what decibel range we start running into trouble, and what my bike actually produces.
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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2006, 03:44:36 PM »

Interesting to know at what decibel range we start running into trouble, and what my bike actually produces.

If a sound reaches 85 dB or stronger, it can cause permanent damage to your hearing. The amount of time you listen to a sound affects how much damage it will cause.

* A typical conversation occurs at 60 dB - not loud enough to cause damage.

* A bulldozer that is idling (note that this is idling, not actively bulldozing) is loud enough at 85 dB that it can cause permanent damage after only 1 work day (8 hours).

* When listening to music on earphones at a standard volume level 5, the sound generated reaches a level of 100 dB, loud enough to cause permanent damage after just 15 minutes per day!

* A clap of thunder from a nearby storm (120 dB) or a gunshot (140-190 dB, depending on weapon), can both cause immediate damage.

Decibel Exposure Time Guidelines
Accepted standards for recommended permissible exposure time for continuous time weighted average noise, according to NIOSH and CDC, 2002. For every 3 dBs over 85dB, the permissible exposure time before possible damage can occur is cut in half.

Continuous dB   &  Permissible Exposure Time

85 db   8 hours
88 dB   4 hours
91 db   2 hours
94 db   1 hour
97 db   30 minutes
100 db   15 minutes
103 db   7.5 minutes
106 dB   3.75 min (< 4min)
109 dB   1.875 min (< 2min)
112 dB   .9375 min (~1 min)
115 dB   .46875 min (~30 sec)  My exhaust

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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2006, 05:06:52 PM »
Interesting...

I remember in the 80's the IDF complained that new conscripts were coming into the army with ear damage similar to that found in folks who'd served in artillery.  They hypothisized that it was mostly from loud Walkman use.

Looks like maybe I should wear my earplugs more.  I SAID, IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE I SHOULD..., oh, forget it.  I SAID, OH...
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2006, 05:44:24 PM »
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2006, 06:27:41 PM »
Too many years to late, but I finally use protection in my ears.

It is never too late - as long as you still have a sense of balance, that is.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2006, 08:43:00 PM »
Too many years to late, but I finally use protection in my ears.

It is never too late - as long as you still have a sense of balance, that is.

Greg,

I'm not up on auditory physiology, but it seems to me that balance (although in the ear) is not necessarily related to hearing loss.  It would differ if the loss were neurosensory or mechanical/anatomical, and what was specifically damaged to cause the loss.  Hmmm, one more thing for me to look into.  I SAID...
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2006, 09:10:00 PM »
Thats how you tell the difference in aviation between co-pilots and captains.

Co-pilots are deaf in the right ear ...captains in both.  ;D
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2006, 12:39:08 AM »
I have had plugs made to fit my ears at work. If you work in a noisy place, a woodworkshop or factory, you can ask your boss to buy you these plugs.

The custom fit plugs I have are hard plastic, but they are much more comfortable to wear under your helmet and seal out more noise than soft plugs.

They cost  around $100 here, and need to be replaced every 3 or 4 years.
Don't forget to mention to the guy that comes to fit them that you want the motorcycle type. They are shorter than the normal ones, and have a softer strap/wire so it doesn't hurt under your helmet.
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2006, 05:27:10 AM »
Greg,
I'm not up on auditory physiology, but it seems to me that balance (although in the ear) is not necessarily related to hearing loss.  It would differ if the loss were neurosensory or mechanical/anatomical, and what was specifically damaged to cause the loss.  Hmmm, one more thing for me to look into.  I SAID...

It is said that noise induced damage to the haiir cells in the vestibular system can lead to loss of balance.
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2006, 07:03:46 AM »
I use earplugs at concerts these days. I lost 40% on my left ear due to a viral infection(what my doc said). Anyways, I've been paranoid about hearing loss ever since because I only have one good ear to work with these days. That being said, I find earplugs to be the most uncomfortable things to wear. I found that the most comfortable ones were the ones I bought for swimming. They fit snuggly, but do not put too much pressure on the ear. Sparty, how much louder is that exhaust setup? I was thinking about something similar, but I don't want to go deaf either.  ;D

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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2006, 07:11:54 AM »
If you read some of the links from the earplug manufacturers sites, the loudness of your exhaust is irrelevant at more than about 50mph as wind noise takes over.

My race can (VFR) is very loud and illegal but at over 50 I can't hear it at all - just the wind rushing past my Arai...
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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2006, 03:49:24 PM »
kuyarico,
I had a set of custom ear plugs made out of acrylic and they're so comfortable, I forget they're in.  I paid $75 for them and I've had them for six years and use them everyday.  It was a wise investment in my mind!
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2006, 08:03:52 PM »
small price to pay to keep my hearing. I may have to invest in some as I just sparty-ized my exhaust. Off topic, I love the way it sounds.

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2006, 11:11:05 AM »
 - I want to hear what's around me.  Have some hearing lose in my left ear; but, I broke that eardrum playing softball years ago.  I'm 58 and on the street I always ...
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2006, 11:50:57 AM »
MY DAD FORCED A SET OF EARPLUGS ON ME WHEN ELIZABETH AND I WENT ON OUR VEGAS TRIP... THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME I'VE EVERY WORN THEM.

^ was YELLING so the deaf ones among us could hear  :D
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2006, 11:56:02 AM »
Whaddya say?

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2006, 01:05:57 PM »
I'd rather not wear any protection as my helmet muffles a lot of sound as it is.

I have really sensitive hearing; I can hear a lot of thing that most people don't even notice.  I think it's why I talk softly, too--people can never hear me but to me my voice is loud in my head.  The sound of a router makes me physically ill.

I like the smushy tempurpedic foamy earplugs when I use power tools because they expand to fill the ear canal completely.

kuyarico's 550 is well into the piss-off-your-neighbors decibel range.  ;D


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Re: Do you wear ear protection on your rides?
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2006, 02:58:12 PM »
If you read some of the links from the earplug manufacturers sites, the loudness of your exhaust is irrelevant at more than about 50mph as wind noise takes over.

My race can (VFR) is very loud and illegal but at over 50 I can't hear it at all - just the wind rushing past my Arai...

I'm in for ear plugs next season.  Someone, possibly Steve, pointed out in another thread how much wind noise carries through an Arai.  I hadn't really noticed it before then, but now it really bugs me.
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