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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #600 on: October 09, 2017, 11:56:12 AM »
and fits the blood color..nicely

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« Reply #601 on: October 09, 2017, 02:46:52 PM »
Terry, I had a similar problem with the bigger breather into the smaller tank fitting. See my engineering skills below  :o
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #602 on: October 09, 2017, 09:47:35 PM »
I have not measured the thinner hose for earlier breather. I use 13 mm on my K6. I guess 8-10 mm on the earlier one
Hose reducer
https://www.amazon.com/Valterra-RF885-Barb-Reducer-Coupler/dp/B003VAUMX6
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hose-Pipe-Reducer-Barbed-Tails/dp/B00NSVZ9IG

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« Reply #603 on: October 09, 2017, 10:14:57 PM »
The first thing I usually do,
Get hose for smaller size  barb, cut to near length.
Warm up the end you want to put on the bigger fitting, sometime boiling water will work.
Put needle nose  pliers inbgge warmed up end , then pull handles apart, turn and repeat.
 May have to re warm it and a few tries.. this often works for oversize bungs.
Don't use braid reinforced hose.
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #605 on: October 10, 2017, 01:52:27 PM »
Thanks guys, although I'm not intentionally "going slow" on this build (well I did build my previous K1 bitsa from another bunch of parts into a running, riding bike in only one weekend 13 or 14 years ago, but then spent years refining it) I really am enjoying your input, so thanks for that.

I found an excellent (I thought) set of carbs in near perfect condition to install, but there is one problem that might drive me, screaming, to the pissed off thread, or conversely, might be fixed with a little Redneck repair. I've taken some pics, but will wait until I get home after work to elaborate. With luck there'll be carbs on tonight! Pictures at 11..... ;D
« Last Edit: October 11, 2017, 12:29:17 AM by Terry in Australia »
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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« Reply #606 on: October 11, 2017, 01:56:12 AM »
So I was quite excited to find such a clean set of carbs in a pile of parts, most of the carbs I find have been left in the weather for much of their lives, and usually look like they've been dragged out of a drain, backwards. Not these, check 'em out, these pics were taken before I even thought about cleaning them:

Redneck Carbs by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Redneck Carbs 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Redneck Carbs 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr 

It didn't take log to give them a clean, although 3 of the 4 pilot jets were blocked, as were both of the breather tubes. Carb #3 was a bit grotty with corrosion, so I swapped the float valve seat out with a better one and blew all the internal circuits through with carb cleaner and compressed air. I wasn't particularly happy with the carb kits, and anyway the carbs were so clean I didn't see a need to replace much so I only replaced the main jets, with 125's to go with the ancient K&N pods that I've used on 2 or 3 CB750's going back to my first K1 in 1980. They just don't wear out........

Anyhoo, I was a happy boy until I noticed this. Bugger.

Redneck Carbs 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

It looks like the rack of carbs was either dropped or perhaps damaged in a crash, or even possibly whacked with a hammer, but whatever the reason, the "lip" was cracked for around an inch on the other side of the seal. Poop. Someone had attempted to repair it with JB Weld, but not very well, and it had not filled the cracked area.

I thought about it and decided that some sort of metal putty would be a better idea than JB Weld, as there was no risk of it running off when wet, so first I cleaned the old JB weld from the damaged area.

Redneck Carb Fix by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Redneck Carb Fix 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Then pulled out my big bar of metal putty.

Redneck Carb Fix 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I chopped off a small piece, mixed and formed it up into a little worm of putty.

Redneck Carb Fix 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I was initially a bit worried about it not sticking to the carb body, but with a bit more kneading, it covered the cracked area well, and I was able to push it into the crack, so all going well, it should do the job.

Redneck Carb Fix 6 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

All in all, I think it should be fine, I've "bench-synched" the carbs as well, so tomorrow after work I'll have a look at them, and install them on the bike. Good night, y'all! ;D

Redneck Carb Fix 7 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr
« Last Edit: October 11, 2017, 02:00:31 AM by Terry in Australia »
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #607 on: October 11, 2017, 05:58:04 AM »
Well Sir, that there is one fine good ole boy repair!.   
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #608 on: October 11, 2017, 06:05:32 AM »
is that bubbel gum..2 komponent..or air dry

.ve use blue and yellov basis gum and miv it to a light green....just heating it in my hand..and it gets soft..for abaut 1/2 auer

.i have used that 2 komp in the elektro motor industri..ve use it as balance vaight..it are easy to press in the Windings, on a el motor anker/rotor..it holds fine up..even in heat,,use it also to glue termostate/heat elements in motors for off shore windmills..so they hold a konstant temperature..so damp and vater dont kondensate inside the engines(on cranes and pumps..and stuff)oil industries off shore
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #609 on: October 11, 2017, 07:22:00 AM »
I have JB Weld as the 2k dough. More  crispy and fragile. Good for quick fix.


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« Reply #610 on: October 11, 2017, 08:27:16 AM »
stryboen is correct, bubble gum would have sufficed :P.  Nice repair TB....LBB

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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #611 on: October 11, 2017, 10:24:18 AM »
is that bubbel gum..2 komponent..or air dry.

.i have used somthing 2 komp in the elektro motor industri..ve use it as balance vaight..it are easy to press in the Windings, on a el motor anker/rotor..it holds fine up..even in heat,,use it also to glue termostate/heat elements in motors for off shore windmills..so they hold a konstant temperature..so damp and vater dont kondensate inside the engines(on cranes and pumps..and stuff)oil industries off shore

How does that stuff hold up compared to JB weld?
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #612 on: October 11, 2017, 01:06:53 PM »
have never used jb..so have no idea..but it are hard..have even used it for a isolator..put it on a 14 mm shaft to make it 18 mm...and turned a bearing fitting..and pressed a bearing on..and it hold good up...
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« Reply #613 on: October 11, 2017, 01:22:22 PM »
Thanks guys, many years ago (1989) I had a magnificent 1971 Ford XY Futura with 4V 351C, C6 Trans, 9 inch diff etc, which I loved more than any car I've owned prior, or since. Only problem was it used fuel @ an alarming rate, so when the Army told me I was being posted to Brisbane, 1000 miles away, I sold it and bought a 1972 Ford Fairmont with a stock 302C, C4 slushbox, etc.

It had belonged to an old Italian guy, and was in pretty tired condition, but was cheap. My first job was to fit 4 matching tyres as it had 4 tyres that didn't match, 2 of which weren't even the right size! The next task was to clean all the bark out of the boot, (trunk) seems he used to cut his own firewood, so he'd just drive out into the bush, chop up some deadfall, and fill up his trunk.

Next job was the tow bar, which was wonky, looked slightly bent, and as it turned out, was held in place with self tapping sheet metal screws! Fark! I took it to a shop and had a new one installed, as I was towing a trailer to our new digs.

The big day came, day one of the three day journey, so we loaded the kids and the cat into the car, hooked up the trailer, said goodbye to our neighbors and our old Army house, and set off. We stopped at a Shell gas station, and back in the day when you could do so, I inserted the pump nozzle and set it to fill, then went to check the oil and water etc.

with my head under the bonnet, I thought I could smell raw fuel, but everything looked OK, so I wandered around the back and to my horror, there was a fine stream of fuel jetting out of a hairline crack at the rear of the tank, where the old tow bar's tongue must have been rubbing against it! FCUK!

I asked the gas station attendant if he had anything to plug the leak and the best he could do was some silicon sealant, so I slathered that on, but 200 miles up the road it was leaking again, so I slathered some more on (after putting another 16 gallons of gas in the tank) and so on and so forth until we reached our first overnight stop in West Wyalong. I parked the car out in the street that night, and of course the next morning the whole street smelled like gas, so we drove to another Shell station to fill up.

Once again I asked the guy if he had anything to seal the leak, and he sold me some "Radiator and Fuel Tank Repair", which was the same as that stuff I put on my bitsa carbs, and wow, it just stopped the leak straight away! The outside if the tank was pretty clean with all the gas that had poured out of it in the last 24 hours so I just wiped it with paper towel, kneaded the two part "bubblegum" into a playdough-like consistency and pushed it into the damaged area, and it stayed there until I replaced the tank a year later.

Over the years I've used it on leaking radiators too, and even on one leaking motorcycle gas tank, and each time it's held up fine. I'm hoping it'll still be on these carbs in years to come! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #614 on: October 11, 2017, 01:36:01 PM »
I'm sure you have a package with you all the time, wherever you'll go. Can fix a tooth or 2 too, right? ;)
I can feel the stress when fuel is constantly leaking waiting for the big bang or at least a huge rapid fire and finally you'll get something that fix it. Hallelujah, that stuff will be blessed for ever, it relived and cured the stressful situation where you dearest were involved too!
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
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« Reply #615 on: October 11, 2017, 02:05:33 PM »
Ha ha, well the problem with living in this hot dry land Per, (for half the year, down here in Melbourne) is that all of these potions dry out after awhile, and so I'm constantly pulling out a tube to find that it's gone off, which means another trip to the hardware store.

 I have successfully stored some glues and fillers in my beer fridge, but in one or two cases that's actually accelerated the drying out problem. I've still got some JB weld in the fridge along with another excellent product for fixing damaged metal parts called Devcon but I haven't checked either for awhile so I ponied up the 18 bucks for that stuff I used, just in case. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #616 on: October 11, 2017, 02:56:41 PM »
Wrap it in shrink wrap after use, then put in a ZipLoc.. Might help..
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« Reply #617 on: October 11, 2017, 03:59:16 PM »
Thanks Frank, it comes wrapped in plastic with a "cap" of tinfoil at each end, then it's inside a sealed tube, so should be ok for awhile, but I'll bet that next time I need it, it'll be jacked.... ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #618 on: October 11, 2017, 07:29:27 PM »
Terry if you put your sealants in a zip-lock FREEZER bag they will have 2 to 4 times the shelf life. I do that with my silicone and gasket sealers, also works good with the PVC glue. Just close them tight and drop the container in the bag and squeeze the air out. I have tubes of silicone that are over 2 years old. You gotta use the thicker freezer bags though.
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« Reply #619 on: October 11, 2017, 08:45:11 PM »
Haven't heard Devcon mentioned in many moons, but it was the thing to use back in the day(70's that is)...LBB

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« Reply #620 on: October 12, 2017, 02:28:07 AM »
Thanks guys, I'll try the glad-wrap and ziplock freezer bags trick, I don't mind buying new glue, but it pisses me off having to stop doing whatever I'm doing, getting cleaned up, driving over to the store, coming back, getting back into my crappy clothes again, etc etc etc. Larry, I bought that Devcon back in the 90's when I was given (for free, woohoo!) a Suzuki GS1000 drag bike.

I pulled the engine and put it in another bike with a blown engine. The drag bike engine had thrown a drive chain and damaged the top case where the sprocket cover mounted, so I made a "dam" lined with Glad-Wrap and filled it with Devcon to fill the hole, and was able to drill and tap it for new sprocket cover screws, and no-one would have known that it had ever been damaged. Better than JB Weld (which is excellent) but expensive. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #621 on: October 12, 2017, 02:37:21 AM »
Trick to removing air from zip lock bags, stick a long straw in one end down into the bag and after pressing out most air by hand you eal he bag up to the straw.  Suck on the straw pulling it out of the bag as you suck and with one hand you hold the bag while you are pressing against the straw with the other hand trying to seal the bag.  When the straw goes past the seal you will have sucked out most all of the air and the bag is sealed when the straw clears the seal.  You will be surprised how little air is in the bag as it is not a vac-sealed bag but it is pretty good.

Another trick for canned paints to slow or prevent them from curing in a can when exposure to air/oxygen is allowing them to cure is to mix up some CO2 with some vinegar and baking soda in a deep bowl.  The reaction will make CO2 gas which being heavier than air stays in the bowl.  You pour the CO2 into the can like you would pour a liquid being careful to not pour in any of your vinegar and soda pasty liquid.  I have the formula stowed away somewhere on calculating the volume of CO2 generated by x grams of soda and y ounces or ml of vinegar.
Being denser than air it stays in the bowl until you pour the gas into the paint can displacing the air, it works well. 
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« Reply #622 on: October 12, 2017, 03:02:02 AM »
Anyhoo, carb time! I got home after a hard day pretending to work hard, while trying to stay awake. As soon as I'd changed into my crappy clothes I popped the hard old carb rubbers off, and found some nice OEM "Made in Japan" (not China) rubbers in a box.

Redneck carb install by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

As much as they're not cheap, the quality is so much better than the last lot of aftermarket ones I bought on ebay for Mike's Cafe Racer. With those, they were so soft they struggled to hold the carbs in place without an airbox, whereas the OEM ones are quite firm. It took a little more effort to pop the carbs on than with the cheapo ones, but I reckon that the OEM ones seal better too.

Being an excellent Redneck I didn't buy new clamps though, oh no, that's just silly, I dumped the filthy greasy tarnished old ones in a tub of straight chemical degreaser (the nasty stuff that you absolutely need to wear rubber gloves when using) and I was 'rapt that the clamps came up really really clean, very impressive!

Redneck carb install 1 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I also hooked up the vacuum lines to my Bill Bowen Carb Tune, it'll be interesting to see how close I was with the bench sync once I get it fired up.

Redneck carb install 2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

I pulled out my 36 year old K&N pods, I don't know if they do these straight ones anymore, all of the new ones I see are tapered, so it's nice to have a "period" accessory or two. I need to soften up the rubbers and ran out of time tonight, but tomorrow I'll dip 'em in some hot water, and they'll be good for another 37 years!

Redneck carb install 5 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

By now it was getting dark, and I was getting tired, so I put the tools away and opened the bar. Tomorrow it'll be filters and cables, some drain hoses if I can find some. I'm gonna have to pull it off the bench and turn it around, if my little patient lifter will still lift it up! Cheers, Terry. ;D

Redneck carb install 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #623 on: October 12, 2017, 03:27:11 AM »
If it won't you are going to need to build a ramp and put wheels on it...
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #624 on: October 12, 2017, 08:38:21 AM »
Ha ha, the patient lifter has a max capacity of 200 KG David, last time I picked it up was prior to electrics, wiring, front brakes and fender, pipes and carbs, and it picked it up easily, but now, I'm not so sure....... ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)