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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1276 on: January 09, 2019, 09:15:44 pm »
Those brakes look really good!
Caliper for caliper has to be made or is it one that fits?
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« Reply #1277 on: January 09, 2019, 10:27:01 pm »
Looks pretty good., double acting calipers are easy to mount and mounts are solid.. just try to center them, then they do the rest.
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1278 on: January 10, 2019, 02:32:13 am »
Those Beringer brakes are very cool, have you got any good close up pics of the mounting brackets Don?

Well only a couple of days left until I have to go back to work and depression is setting in. What's the cure for such a debilitating malady? A ride, of course. I drove over to the storage place and pulled my VFR750 out of the shipping container, I was happy that the battery still had plenty of oomph left from the last ride, and it fired up right away.

Once again, the country roads were nice and quiet today, so I was pretty free to give the little V4 the berries, and enjoy the howl from that Remus pipe @ 10,000 RPM, as I carved thru the corners. What a great bike! ;D

VFR750 2019 first ride 10 Jan 2019 5 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr
 
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1279 on: January 10, 2019, 02:45:54 am »
Bike with brakes....
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1280 on: January 10, 2019, 03:01:35 am »
Bike with brakes....

Fantastic brakes on the VFR Per, I wish my CB750 brakes were half as good! ;D

VFR750 2019 first ride 10 Jan 2019 6 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1281 on: January 10, 2019, 03:08:34 am »
Possible with only 1 rotor at front instead of 2 ;)
Your K2 bike rotor or pads too slick and even worse than stock? MC OK?
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« Reply #1282 on: January 10, 2019, 03:34:21 am »
Possible with only 1 rotor at front instead of 2 ;)
Your K2 bike rotor or pads too slick and even worse than stock? MC OK?

Ha ha, thanks mate, but the standard CB750 brakes, even if they were in pristine condition, are sh1t compared to the VFR's. Mine should work fine with the cast iron disc, new (Honda) pads, braided stainless steel brake line and new MC, but they're actually rubbish. I'll try Spotty's pads and see if they improve, if not, I'll have to do something radical. ;D
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1283 on: January 10, 2019, 09:23:22 am »
Those brakes look really good!
Caliper for caliper has to be made or is it one that fits?

This caliper is from the Classic line.  It is the same one used on other Honda CBs.  I haven't seen any mount brackets by Beringer except those for the 550 and 750 (my bike was used to prototype the 550 brackets).  Of course, if you have access to a mill, you can make your own for this or other applications. 
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1284 on: January 10, 2019, 09:24:09 am »
Those Beringer brakes are very cool, have you got any good close up pics of the mounting brackets Don?

Well only a couple of days left until I have to go back to work and depression is setting in. What's the cure for such a debilitating malady? A ride, of course. I drove over to the storage place and pulled my VFR750 out of the shipping container, I was happy that the battery still had plenty of oomph left from the last ride, and it fired up right away.

Once again, the country roads were nice and quiet today, so I was pretty free to give the little V4 the berries, and enjoy the howl from that Remus pipe @ 10,000 RPM, as I carved thru the corners. What a great bike! ;D

VFR750 2019 first ride 10 Jan 2019 5 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Terry,

I'll take some close ups and send them to you. 
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html)

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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1285 on: January 10, 2019, 09:52:46 am »
CB750 stock brackets can not be used with a Beringer caliper?

Found where they sell. For early CB750 fork only. Later K2 from frame number 2093731 need other bracket.
http://www.beringerbrakes.us/shop.html#!/Honda-CB-550-CB750/c/24093077/offset=0&sort=normal

http://www.frogspecialties.com/store.html#!/~/search/keyword=cb750&offset=0&sort=relevance
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« Reply #1286 on: January 10, 2019, 11:39:28 am »
Wow $$$$$$$...wonder how many have been sold
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« Reply #1287 on: January 10, 2019, 02:29:37 pm »
Wow $$$$$$$...wonder how many have been sold

Yep, they're some serious money Sean, I only know one guy here in Oz with them on his bike. The twin disc setup I had on my K1 worked pretty well just using the OEM (but drilled) discs, Suzuki Bandit 1200 MC and braided lines, but if I had better calipers than the single puck stockers, it would have been great.

The problem with most "opposed piston" calipers is they're too wide so if you try to mount them on a CB750 the back of the caliper hits the spokes, and you can't offset the disc rotor by more then a few mm. I've got a box of old Brembo calipers in my garage, I wonder if I could split one and mill the back side down far enough to get around this? Hmmnnn, food for thought! ;D 
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« Reply #1288 on: January 10, 2019, 03:20:41 pm »
Let us know how that goes Terry, and I will too...I got a couple junkyard sourced Brembo's laying about myself...
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« Reply #1289 on: January 10, 2019, 06:06:13 pm »
 Somewhere I have a set of them VFR front calipers, with adaptors I made for a F model fork..
 If someone is interested. . Have to look for them
 Same as Bert used with big rotors and a wire K wheel..
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1290 on: January 10, 2019, 06:29:32 pm »
Wow $$$$$$$...wonder how many have been sold

Yep, they're some serious money Sean, I only know one guy here in Oz with them on his bike. The twin disc setup I had on my K1 worked pretty well just using the OEM (but drilled) discs, Suzuki Bandit 1200 MC and braided lines, but if I had better calipers than the single puck stockers, it would have been great.

The problem with most "opposed piston" calipers is they're too wide so if you try to mount them on a CB750 the back of the caliper hits the spokes, and you can't offset the disc rotor by more then a few mm. I've got a box of old Brembo calipers in my garage, I wonder if I could split one and mill the back side down far enough to get around this? Hmmnnn, food for thought! ;D 

I think Brent machined some off the back of his Brembo calipers, there was a pic & description in his thread Terry.
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1291 on: January 11, 2019, 12:19:23 am »
We use O8's on the sidecar.
I wouldn't think it would take a lot of effort fit up a set of O5's to a SOHC.
The Beringer unit looks very similar.
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« Reply #1292 on: January 11, 2019, 08:34:04 am »
They ARE pricey.  Luckily for me, I know the US distributor and he wanted to use my 550 to prototype the mount brackets and use my bike for marketing, so I got a very special deal. 

Twin rotors are not necessary.  A single rotor/caliper mated with right MC will give you PLENTY of stopping power.  With 2 rotors, I use 1-2 fingers on the brake lever. 

Period style Brembos are also a perfectly suitable and much less expensive alternative: https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-motorcycle-repair/brake-caliper-rebuild-zmmz11sozraw
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1293 on: January 12, 2019, 11:13:51 am »
They ARE pricey.  Luckily for me, I know the US distributor and he wanted to use my 550 to prototype the mount brackets and use my bike for marketing, so I got a very special deal. 

Twin rotors are not necessary.  A single rotor/caliper mated with right MC will give you PLENTY of stopping power.  With 2 rotors, I use 1-2 fingers on the brake lever. 

Period style Brembos are also a perfectly suitable and much less expensive alternative: https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-motorcycle-repair/brake-caliper-rebuild-zmmz11sozraw
I was thinking of eventually going the Beringer route eventually on my K2 750, I spoke with Phillippe during the Long Beach IMS few months ago. I think single caliper, bracket, and disc would set you back about $1200? Did you get the Beringer MC as well? For a bolt on weekend project that's not bad
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« Reply #1294 on: January 12, 2019, 04:29:23 pm »
They ARE pricey.  Luckily for me, I know the US distributor and he wanted to use my 550 to prototype the mount brackets and use my bike for marketing, so I got a very special deal. 

Twin rotors are not necessary.  A single rotor/caliper mated with right MC will give you PLENTY of stopping power.  With 2 rotors, I use 1-2 fingers on the brake lever. 

Period style Brembos are also a perfectly suitable and much less expensive alternative: https://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-motorcycle-repair/brake-caliper-rebuild-zmmz11sozraw
I was thinking of eventually going the Beringer route eventually on my K2 750, I spoke with Phillippe during the Long Beach IMS few months ago. I think single caliper, bracket, and disc would set you back about $1200? Did you get the Beringer MC as well? For a bolt on weekend project that's not bad

If you spoke to Philippe at Long Beach IMS, then you were standing right next to my bike.  Yes, it has a Beringer radial MC with integrated reservoir.  Prior to the show, I swapped out my clubman bars for a Superbike bars and changed to the radial MC.
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Re: Terry Bob's redneck F-ing K2 bitsa project!
« Reply #1295 on: January 12, 2019, 05:45:08 pm »
They ARE pricey.  Luckily for me, I know the US distributor and he wanted to use my 550 to prototype the mount brackets and use my bike for marketing, so I got a very special deal. 

Twin rotors are not necessary.  A single rotor/caliper mated with right MC will give you PLENTY of stopping power.  With 2 rotors, I use 1-2 fingers on the brake lever. 

What is the piston diameter of the Beringer calipers? They would have to be over 42mm to achieve the same clamping force as a two-piston 32mm caliper. Coupled with a 320mm rotor and stock 14mm MC, one rotor is enough, IMHO. ;) Also, there is no issue with spoke clearance.
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« Reply #1296 on: January 13, 2019, 02:12:23 am »
I bought this cheap Ebay used PM 4 piston caliper which was meant for the rear of a Harley, and made a bracket to mount it on the front of my Sportster. It's a tight fit because of spoke clearance issues, but a fantastic improvement over the single puck sliding caliper, which was just as ineffective as the OEM CB750 brakes.

The first time I grabbed the brake in a panic stop I lifted the back wheel off the ground! I only wish the caliper was thin enough to work on a CB750, it'd be the best performance improvement you could make. ;D

Terry's Sporty front brake conversion 4 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr   
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« Reply #1297 on: January 13, 2019, 05:51:12 pm »
Great looking build.

You've got the gears turning.  I've been dreaming about a front caliper swap on my CB750.
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« Reply #1298 on: March 03, 2019, 12:57:13 am »
Well it was another stinking hot day again today, I'd planned to take a look at the big red bike's front end to determine if the humming noise that I noticed on my ride last weekend was anything to worry about (that I need to fix before I hand it over to the winning Ebay bidder) or just the sound of the tyre rolling on the road, but I allowed myself to get roped into picking up my youngest son from the airport, he's been working interstate on a TV show and his mother volunteered to collect him, when it would have been easier for everyone if he just caught a cab.

Anyway, when we finally got home, I had to get on a bike and go. I threw on some jeans and boots, and escaped to the garage. Of course there was no fuel in the K2's tank (I stole it for Big Red) so I returned the favor and siphoned 5 litres out of big red's tank, and tipped it into the K2. It fired up instantly (gotta love hot weather) but ran like sh1t. I looked down, and there was fuel pouring out of one of the overflow tubes. Bugger. I grabbed a pair of multi grips and tapped each float bowl until it stopped, and the bike started running properly on all 4. Good enough. Jacket on, helmet on, gloves on, go!

Sunday Redneck Ride 3 March 2019 6 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Anyhoo, first stop was my local Caltex to fill the tank, then up the freeway. I was trying to remember how to get onto the backroads where I road tested the Royal Enfields a few weeks ago. I eventually found them, and took the bends at a much more relaxed pace than last time. I eventually worked my way back onto the Calder highway, and took this pic outside Bob Jane's "Thunderdome", Australia's first (and only) Nascar track. I'm not sure what happened to Nascar here, we had an "Auscar" series as well, but it all seemed to fizzle out after only a couple of years, which is disappointing. The complex also has a drag strip and drifting track, so must still be operating, as the gate was open when I got there.

Sunday Redneck Ride 3 March 2019 3 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr

Anyway, by the time I took that pic it was over 100 degrees again, so I turned for home. I'm almost (only almost) looking forward to some cooler weather! ;D
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