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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2017, 03:24:03 PM »
if the black w/red stripe, yellow with red stripe, and black for the starter button has been disconnected in the headlight bucket can i rule it out as the cause of the resistance issue? 
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2017, 03:26:45 PM »
Black was the supply line to drive either the headlight or the starter solenoid wires.

If black is properly insulated, it can provide no load the distribution system.
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2017, 03:30:14 PM »
Black was the supply line to drive either the headlight or the starter solenoid wires.

If black is properly insulated, it can provide no load the distribution system.

so in laymen's terms no as long as i wrap the end of the black in something insulating?
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2017, 03:32:25 PM »
Black was the supply line to drive either the headlight or the starter solenoid wires.

If black is properly insulated, it can provide no load to the distribution system.

so in laymen's terms no as long as i wrap the end of the black in something insulating?

Well, I'm not into laying men.  But, otherwise, yes.   :D
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2017, 04:37:10 PM »
Black was the supply line to drive either the headlight or the starter solenoid wires.

If black is properly insulated, it can provide no load to the distribution system.

so in laymen's terms no as long as i wrap the end of the black in something insulating?

Well, I'm not into laying men.  But, otherwise, yes.   :D

not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2017, 05:19:53 PM »
went through the wiring in the black path and not sure what i did but at 4500 rpms just now i got 13.2 volts at the battery.  so i went through both brake switches, ignition switch, disconnected the start button wires and all other black wire connections in the headlight.  i must have fixed something not knowing it.  i did re-solder one of the tabs on the rear brake switch because it fell off when i was cleaning up the switch.  now waiting on tony at omp to reply with procedure on adjusting the voltage regulator. 
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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2017, 02:12:25 AM »
And at 5,000 RPMs, you get how much? Getting enough is important to maintain a charged up bike. Getting too much (as previously) is worse; it burns up batteries.
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2017, 08:18:39 AM »
And at 5,000 RPMs, you get how much? Getting enough is important to maintain a charged up bike. Getting too much (as previously) is worse; it burns up batteries.

not enough calj.  manufacturer thinks the regulator is bad.  going to send it to him for repair.  however i am on the other side of the issue now.  at least i'm not boiling the battery anymore. 
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« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2017, 09:06:03 AM »
U may have just had a bad connection at one of the bullet connectors causing a low voltage reading. While doing your test, you could've fixed the problem and not knew it.

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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2017, 12:10:12 PM »
U may have just had a bad connection at one of the bullet connectors causing a low voltage reading. While doing your test, you could've fixed the problem and not knew it.

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that's my guess.  i'll run one more test on the regulator and see what the manufacturer says.  he's offering to repair it and warranty it for less than half what a new one costs and cover shipping when it's repaired. 
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« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2017, 12:13:44 PM »
That's really good.

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« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2017, 01:45:00 PM »
that's my guess.  i'll run one more test on the regulator and see what the manufacturer says.  he's offering to repair it and warranty it for less than half what a new one costs and cover shipping when it's repaired.
What's a warranty if you're paying 50%? Or is it a pro-rated warranty? If it's a bad Regulator, I'd hope the manufacturer replaces it for free, you pay shipping for the return.
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2017, 02:12:11 PM »
that's my guess.  i'll run one more test on the regulator and see what the manufacturer says.  he's offering to repair it and warranty it for less than half what a new one costs and cover shipping when it's repaired.
What's a warranty if you're paying 50%? Or is it a pro-rated warranty? If it's a bad Regulator, I'd hope the manufacturer replaces it for free, you pay shipping for the return.

the reg was on the bike when i bought it.  if i'd have bought the regulator he would have replaced it no question. 
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« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2017, 05:03:02 PM »
Gotcha. Then he's a pretty stand up guy for that offer.
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Re: back to electrical issues again
« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2017, 05:22:49 PM »
Gotcha. Then he's a pretty stand up guy for that offer.

yeah i agree.  i told him i was surprised he was willing to even answer questions since i wasn't the original purchaser of the vreg.  his response was "The difference between me and many other people that sell parts is that I'm a biker and have been since I was first able to scrape up the money to buy my first bike...".  admirable that he gives a damn. 
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