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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #75 on: August 07, 2017, 07:37:42 PM »
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2017, 07:27:53 PM »
Damn that paint looks good!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2017, 12:54:25 PM »
Soooooooo. I decided to just completely rebuild the bike from the frame up  ::)

I stripped it down and sent the frame and swing arm to a sandblaster:


I hung them from a wire for a makeshift paint booth:


My girlfriend walked out and asked where my motorcycle was... she rolled her eyes at my now TWO projects..


About 4 coats of Eastwood Chassis Black:



This is far as I got on the engine tear down.  I am just going to clean, paint and install a 650 cam:


Cylinder is black VHT, Planning on block sanding the fins.


Of course I had to test fit some of the pretty parts =)


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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2017, 02:07:01 PM »
Keeping it stock is a battle I am losing.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #79 on: August 28, 2017, 02:07:21 PM »
Looking good, B.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #80 on: August 28, 2017, 03:02:52 PM »
Thanks, Don!

Does anyone have a bare 77-78 CB550 seat pan they are willing to get rid of? I need to chop one up for a shorter seat
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #81 on: August 28, 2017, 05:04:04 PM »
Quote from: BLAC on August 28, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Does anyone have a bare 77-78 CB550 seat pan they are willing to get rid of? I need to chop one up for a shorter seat
Just make one from aluminum you lazy, Bastage!  ::)
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #82 on: August 28, 2017, 05:16:33 PM »
Are you aiming to keep the stock functionality of the hinges and just shorten the overall seat?  So much for stock!!  :o
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2017, 12:01:34 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on August 28, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: BLAC on August 28, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Does anyone have a bare 77-78 CB550 seat pan they are willing to get rid of? I need to chop one up for a shorter seat
Just make one from aluminum you lazy, Bastage!  ::)

Your overestimate of my skillset is flattering  :P
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2017, 12:09:48 PM »
Looking so good!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2017, 12:26:16 PM »
I want to be adopted by his girlfriend's grandfather -- or at least get to use his sweet garage!
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2017, 12:54:00 PM »
Quote from: BLAC on August 29, 2017, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: calj737 on August 28, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: BLAC on August 28, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Does anyone have a bare 77-78 CB550 seat pan they are willing to get rid of? I need to chop one up for a shorter seat
Just make one from aluminum you lazy, Bastage!  ::)

Your overestimate of my skillset is flattering  :P
Take a 1/8" sheet of aluminum. Trace the hoop/rails. Cut with a jig saw. Propane torch to heat it, bend it to fit curvature. Dress edges with grinder and flap disk or files. Locate hinges. Done yet????  ::)
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2017, 01:21:54 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on August 29, 2017, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: BLAC on August 29, 2017, 12:01:34 PM
Quote from: calj737 on August 28, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: BLAC on August 28, 2017, 03:02:52 PM
Does anyone have a bare 77-78 CB550 seat pan they are willing to get rid of? I need to chop one up for a shorter seat
Just make one from aluminum you lazy, Bastage!  ::)

Your overestimate of my skillset is flattering  :P
Take a 1/8" sheet of aluminum. Trace the hoop/rails. Cut with a jig saw. Propane torch to heat it, bend it to fit curvature. Dress edges with grinder and flap disk or files. Locate hinges. Done yet????  ::)

Aaaaaand I'm headed to the "Wanted" section to create a post... ;D
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2017, 08:59:20 AM »
cal is an absolute master of the understatement, isn't he?  :D
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2017, 10:16:36 AM »
Quote from: Restoration Fan on August 30, 2017, 08:59:20 AM
cal is an absolute master of the understatement, isn't he?  :D
I remain unafraid to attempt anything, whether I have expertise or not. Cowardice is not welcome in my home  :P
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #90 on: August 30, 2017, 10:52:38 AM »
Im not afraid to try, but I know someone who made tens of thousands of them already... Honda  :P

I also want it to be steel so I can weld onto it. I need to incorporate a brake light into the seat somehow  :o
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2017, 03:22:36 PM »
Pssst! Brake light mount from aluminum. Weld aluminum to aluminum.  ;)
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2017, 11:31:54 AM »
Might be a stupid question, but I can not find any reference to which engine mounting points are the grounds (unpainted).

Is it just the back two that make direct contact with the frame?   ???

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #93 on: September 01, 2017, 03:57:12 PM »
Right rear upper motor hangar bolt and engine bracket. The NEG cable grounds between them and the frame.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #94 on: September 01, 2017, 05:23:36 PM »
Is there a downside to having more than just that one ground point?

For some reason I thought it was the bottom rear two as well, so I have all three of hose unpainted...
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« Reply #95 on: September 01, 2017, 06:50:22 PM »
Quote from: BLAC on September 01, 2017, 05:23:36 PM
Is there a downside to having more than just that one ground point?

For some reason I thought it was the bottom rear two as well, so I have all three of hose unpainted...
The battery only has 1 NEG terminal. It only needs 1 ground point.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #96 on: September 18, 2017, 11:51:02 AM »
I got the whole motor reassembled and put in the 650 cam.. but then I realized I forgot to put in the two hollow dowels that go between the cylinder and the head... The step by step I was looking at didnt use them and I didnt notice them until I was cleaning up my bench.

son of a BETCH.

ok... so I used a brand new OEM base gasket and head gasket, with permatex copper spray in both. I also used hondabond on the new pucks, so it is sealed up nice.  My question is...

Do I need to run those dowels? If not necesary should I just leave it as is since everything is sprayed and torqued?  If I do have to run them, can I reuse my brand new head gasket?

this is a bummer  :-\

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #97 on: September 18, 2017, 12:16:41 PM »
Quote from: BLAC on September 18, 2017, 11:51:02 AM
I got the whole motor reassembled and put in the 650 cam.. but then I realized I forgot to put in the two hollow dowels that go between the cylinder and the head... The step by step I was looking at didnt use them and I didnt notice them until I was cleaning up my bench.

son of a BETCH.

ok... so I used a brand new OEM base gasket and head gasket, with permatex copper spray in both. I also used hondabond on the new pucks, so it is sealed up nice.  My question is...

Do I need to run those dowels? If not necesary should I just leave it as is since everything is sprayed and torqued?  If I do have to run them, can I reuse my brand new head gasket?

this is a bummer  :-\




Bryan, I don't have a qualified answer on the dowel pins so I won't opine, but I will say, 'been there, done that' in similar fashion, and whether or not they speak up, I bet a dozen ore more guys that read this are saying it too. Re your head gasket, if it is MLS I personally think the answer is no on reuse, and yes if it is copper. Paper gasket, unknown, but if it isn't damaged when you pop the top off, I am going to GUESS that reuse is fine.

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #98 on: September 18, 2017, 12:20:54 PM »
Quote from: NobleHops on September 18, 2017, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: BLAC on September 18, 2017, 11:51:02 AM
I got the whole motor reassembled and put in the 650 cam.. but then I realized I forgot to put in the two hollow dowels that go between the cylinder and the head... The step by step I was looking at didnt use them and I didnt notice them until I was cleaning up my bench.

son of a BETCH.

ok... so I used a brand new OEM base gasket and head gasket, with permatex copper spray in both. I also used hondabond on the new pucks, so it is sealed up nice.  My question is...

Do I need to run those dowels? If not necesary should I just leave it as is since everything is sprayed and torqued?  If I do have to run them, can I reuse my brand new head gasket?

this is a bummer  :-\




Bryan, I don't have a qualified answer on the dowel pins so I won't opine, but I will say, 'been there, done that' in similar fashion, and whether or not they speak up, I bet a dozen ore more guys that read this are saying it too. Re your head gasket, if it is MLS I personally think the answer is no on reuse, and yes if it is copper. Paper gasket, unknown, but if it isn't damaged when you pop the top off, I am going to GUESS that reuse is fine.

N.

Thanks!I actually was watching the soco videos and actually found him on this forum and someone else said "hey I built my motor watching your video but I dont think you used the alignment dowels between the cylinder and the head" he responded with "im not sure what you are referring to' then the thread died  ::)

 I used the stock OEM gasket that is the waxy/graphite looking thing. Im not sure what it is made from. its not the aftermarket MLS though
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« Reply #99 on: September 18, 2017, 12:31:57 PM »
Best answered by Mike R (in my opinion)
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