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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #100 on: September 18, 2017, 12:33:32 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on September 18, 2017, 12:31:57 PM
Best answered by Mike R (in my opinion)

Agreed, I sent him a text a minute ago. I hope I get good news
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #101 on: September 18, 2017, 01:15:38 PM »
in happier news. im really liking how its coming together!





I did some custom work to the front fender. It looked way to big compared to the shortened rear fender so I chopped it up and rewelded it back together so I could keep the lips on the front and the back.




I also just got Hagons installed. I actually bought these new, sold them to Eric, then ended up needing another set so I called him up and he was about to pull them off his bike so I bought them back from him  :P

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #102 on: September 18, 2017, 02:53:56 PM »
This thing is going to be awesome!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #103 on: September 18, 2017, 08:08:23 PM »
Looking sweet Bryan.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #104 on: September 18, 2017, 08:28:46 PM »
Looking great!!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #105 on: September 19, 2017, 07:07:18 AM »
Nice!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2017, 10:02:28 AM »
I got word back from Mrieck... I need to pull her all apart  >:(

Off to Dallas for the rest of the week for business, it's well timed because I'm not emotionally ready to take that motor apart again  ;D
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #107 on: September 19, 2017, 11:32:21 AM »
Quote from: BLAC on September 19, 2017, 10:02:28 AM
I got word back from Mrieck... I need to pull her all apart  >:(

Off to Dallas for the rest of the week for business, it's well timed because I'm not emotionally ready to take that motor apart again  ;D

That, and you've had your "hands full" with a feisty red Italian mistress.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #108 on: September 20, 2017, 08:05:01 AM »
We in da Club! I got us VIP.  ;D ;D
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #109 on: September 20, 2017, 10:00:43 AM »
Bryan, if ya any consolation I just built a 350f motor and after putting it all together I realized my pistons were facing backwards. Had to re do it all, with new gaskets. It happens. Just be glad you caught it now instead of potential damage at start up. Bike looks aaaaawesome by the way!


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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #110 on: September 20, 2017, 12:13:00 PM »
Don't forget the fetzer valve, too! 
Not to mock your misfortune Bryan.  It sucks that you have to crack it open again.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #111 on: September 20, 2017, 03:44:03 PM »
Could be worse, you could be dealing with a turbo encabulator


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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #112 on: September 20, 2017, 07:22:11 PM »
Quote from: SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan on September 20, 2017, 12:13:00 PM
Don't forget the fetzer valve, too! 
Not to mock your misfortune Bryan.  It sucks that you have to crack it open again.

hahaha no offense taken, i rushed it and was excited that it was starting to look like an engine again and missed the details, my bad and I learned  :P

Its all ball bearings these days!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #113 on: September 20, 2017, 09:07:05 PM »
Look who was on RMD Garage (footage from the OG Moto Show).
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #114 on: September 20, 2017, 09:35:44 PM »
I make vintage motorcycles, wear clothes and am on TV.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #115 on: September 20, 2017, 10:37:45 PM »
Quote from: BLAC on September 20, 2017, 09:35:44 PM
I make vintage motorcycles, wear clothes and am on TV.

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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2017, 06:00:05 PM »
I have a rebuilt set of 022A carbs from my '74 build and the stock carbs from this bike (1978 PD's)...

Since I have the option, which carbs should I run on this '78? I have heard the early 022A's are better carbs and easier to tune (I have an extra set of manifolds also) but I dont have much experience with either.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #117 on: September 24, 2017, 01:59:36 AM »
22s
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #118 on: September 24, 2017, 09:59:20 AM »
The PD's have a "screw in" mainjet, but a press in pilot jet. I can't remember if there are different size pilots available? I've used a tapered jet reamer to enlarge these PD pilot jets. I think there is a boatload of malarchy surrounding these PD carbs because I used a set on a "592" and they tuned in perfectly.

It may be that the lack of different pilot jet options will cause you grief, if so use the earlier carbs!
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #119 on: September 24, 2017, 09:09:25 PM »
Sounds good, I’ll use the 22’s


I already have extra intake manifolds, do I need to run anything else different with these?
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« Reply #120 on: September 25, 2017, 01:03:49 AM »
Carb boots may differ too. And especially those to the airbox.
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #121 on: September 25, 2017, 08:31:38 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on September 25, 2017, 01:03:49 AM
Carb boots may differ too. And especially those to the airbox.
Yep they are, I know because I searched high and low and bought a brand new set of late style ones a couple weeks ago  ::) don’t need those anymore
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #122 on: October 02, 2017, 12:22:09 AM »
Progress!

I pulled the head off and got those dowels back in place. Put everything back together and got the exhaust put on as well





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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #123 on: October 02, 2017, 08:48:57 AM »
Looks good Bryan, as does the new Ducati.  Are you prioritizing the stock 550 so you have a running vintage bike, and then go back and forth between the monoshock 550 and Streetfighter?
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1978 CB550... I tried to keep it stock, I failed.
« Reply #124 on: October 02, 2017, 10:10:31 AM »
Quote from: SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan on October 02, 2017, 08:48:57 AM
Looks good Bryan, as does the new Ducati.  Are you prioritizing the stock 550 so you have a running vintage bike, and then go back and forth between the monoshock 550 and Streetfighter?

Ya I want this 550 to be running then I will focus on the monoshocker
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*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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