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Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« on: May 23, 2017, 10:34:19 PM »


Coming soon from APE
Honda CB750 "Hot Street Rod"
Designed to fill the gap between oem rods and Carillo H Beams.
Designed for the street hot rod that needs the added security of a non oem rod, but doesn't need a full on race rod.
100% machined from 4340 billet steel and heat treated. APR 12 point bolts round out the package.
HSR750 Will debut at under $600 a set.
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 04:23:52 AM »
Looks like the rods in my next build!  8)
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2017, 07:34:46 AM »
What will a set of these top secret parts cost me??
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 08:40:38 AM »
Sweet!
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 08:55:02 AM »
Very nice looking rod.

What is the bolt alloy?
What does it weigh?
How much do it cost?
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 08:59:38 AM »
Crowers are back!! Really nice rods just not as light as Carillos but much lighter on the back pocket. Thanks for everything Jay!!
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 09:25:54 AM »
These will not be Crowers.
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 10:06:59 AM »
Looking forward to the new information.  :D
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 10:26:43 AM »
Very similar to a Carrillo A Beam except the side relief on the Carrillo is usually not as squared off at the top.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 11:11:55 AM »
Stronger than Carillo or lower priced rod strong enough?
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 11:50:14 AM »
OK Jay, enough is enough. Let's have the scoop?  ???  ???  ???

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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2017, 01:01:26 PM »
Interested to see the price. The Cycle X rods are slightly heavier than stock but much stronger and at $600 for the set, a hell of a lot cheaper than anything else out there right now. Or are they?...
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 01:08:39 PM »
Quote from: slikwilli420 on May 24, 2017, 01:01:26 PM
Interested to see the price. The Cycle X rods are slightly heavier than stock but much stronger and at $600 for the set, a hell of a lot cheaper than anything else out there right now. Or are they?...

I'll be testing the integrity of the Cycle Ex rods on a new nitrous oxide application very soon. We'll see how strong they are in a real life drag racing platform. I may try Jays' rods when I rebuild the engine in my red drag bike if the price is right. My old RC rods are getting tired.
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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2017, 02:01:49 PM »
OK OK, see above
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2017, 05:33:05 PM »
That's pretty sweet Jay.
What do they weigh?
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2017, 06:47:08 PM »
+1

Big Jay comes through again!! I think he needs to pack a few sets in his suitcase for every Man Cup race  ;) Or at least deliver there in person  8)
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2017, 08:58:14 PM »
We are making a limited number of these to see how they are received.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2017, 09:35:12 PM »
I've always been a supporter of your efforts. Put me down for the first set.
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2017, 01:54:57 AM »
Package deal when mounted on a lightened and balanced crank ready to be installed? 
Only thing needed to do is to verify correct crank/case bearings.
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
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Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2017, 02:03:20 PM »
Quote from: PeWe on May 25, 2017, 01:54:57 AM
Package deal when mounted on a lightened and balanced crank ready to be installed? 
Only thing needed to do is to verify correct crank/case bearings.
 

That would be about $1085 ready to install
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Re: Don't tell any one you saw this .....
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2017, 04:34:13 PM »
I am guessing that lightened and balanced crank would depend upon you providing your crank and the degree to which you would want it lightened.  But, why stop there? Why not send him some coated piston to blueprint that whole assembly to shoot towards the $2k or $2500 mark? Right Jay?  8)  ;) :)  :o
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2017, 05:14:25 AM »
Super interesting! Are they lighter compared to stock rods?
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2017, 11:54:30 AM »
Quote from: RAF122S on May 25, 2017, 04:34:13 PM
I am guessing that lightened and balanced crank would depend upon you providing your crank and the degree to which you would want it lightened.  But, why stop there? Why not send him some coated piston to blueprint that whole assembly to shoot towards the $2k or $2500 mark? Right Jay?  8)  ;) :)  :o

My engine runs very smooth after I gave it an APE lightened crank with Carillo rods.

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CB750 K6-76  970cc (Earlier 1005cc JMR Billet block on the shelf waiting for a comeback)
CB750 K2-75 Parts assembled to a stock K2

Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180468.msg2092136.html#msg2092136
The billet block build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,49438.msg1863571.html#msg1863571
CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,179479.msg2104967.html#msg2104967

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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2017, 02:38:55 PM »
I wish they had these when I was shopping for super rods.
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« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2017, 07:48:15 PM »
It is fantastic Jay has brought these to market.  It is a very good thing and hopefully it will yield a regularly available product.
Thanks Jay!
I was not being sarcastic or flippant in my post but, more along the lines of blueprinting the rotating parts will yield an ultra smooth motor. It would not be cheap to do it, but it would yield an ultra smooth motor.
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