Author Topic: Oil Cooler Thread (Read 163073 times)

petersan · « **Reply #325 on:** February 14, 2008, 04:00:36 PM »

I know that separately, these two things have been beaten to death, but I'm having some difficulty getting both to work and look nice on my cafe project. If any of you have solved this problem, I was wondering if you could describe - or better yet, post some photos!

Thanks, paul

Tower · « **Reply #326 on:** February 14, 2008, 04:09:50 PM »

Here's a pic of my solution....

petersan · « **Reply #327 on:** February 14, 2008, 04:41:24 PM »

I think my cooler takes up a bit more real estate than yours.

bwaller · « **Reply #328 on:** February 14, 2008, 05:18:02 PM »

Here's one from the other side. Lockhart cooler, welded a small bracket to the frame to bolt it to. It doesn't take much if you ziptie the oil lines to the frame.

NHK damper fastened at steering stem end to an 8mm stud threaded into the handle hole Honda provided. The adjustible end of the damper is supported by a tab welded to the frame.

troppo · « **Reply #329 on:** February 14, 2008, 05:21:23 PM »

OK so i`ve seen these dampers mentioned before
where can you get them and what are they worth?
cheers
troppo

MRieck · « **Reply #330 on:** February 14, 2008, 06:13:30 PM »

Some pics

MikeD718 · « **Reply #331 on:** February 14, 2008, 06:34:08 PM »

Quote from: bwaller on February 14, 2008, 05:18:02 PM

Here's one from the other side. Lockhart cooler, welded a small bracket to the frame to bolt it to. It doesn't take much if you ziptie the oil lines to the frame.

NHK damper fastened at steering stem end to an 8mm stud threaded into the handle hole Honda provided. The adjustible end of the damper is supported by a tab welded to the frame.

thats the same way i mounted my damper.

Quote from: troppo on February 14, 2008, 05:21:23 PM

OK so i`ve seen these dampers mentioned before
where can you get them and what are they worth?
cheers
troppo

i got mine off of ebay around $75 shipped.

BobbyR · « **Reply #332 on:** February 14, 2008, 07:11:16 PM »

I am curious why one would need a damper on a street bike. What does it do for you?

MRieck · « **Reply #333 on:** February 14, 2008, 07:21:16 PM »

Quote from: BobbyR on February 14, 2008, 07:11:16 PM

I am curious why one would need a damper on a street bike. What does it do for you?

It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside Bobby....kinda like your Babe Thread

BobbyR · « **Reply #334 on:** February 14, 2008, 07:25:22 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on February 14, 2008, 07:21:16 PM

Quote from: BobbyR on February 14, 2008, 07:11:16 PM
I am curious why one would need a damper on a street bike. What does it do for you?
It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside Bobby....kinda like your Babe Thread

I guess so. Looks cool anyway.

Shenanigans · « **Reply #335 on:** March 19, 2008, 02:32:59 PM »

So I got myself a nice Lockhart cooler and an adapter plate for the 76' 550 from a junkyard. I am unaware of what the adapter actually comes from but it seems to fit perfectly when put up against the block of a 550. It is a rather plain smooth housing with no fins. I was about to put the adapter on when I realized I might need a longer oil filter bolt to accommodate the adapter.

Will the stock bolt work? (I know probably not but it would make my day easier)
If I need to get a new one, where can they be bought?

I hear a lot of people say they used a 650 nighthawk cooler rig. If so would the (assumed) longer oil filter bolt work on my bike?

scondon · « **Reply #336 on:** March 19, 2008, 02:44:27 PM »

The 77-78 750F2 has a extra cooling fin plate between the filter housing and engine block. It uses a longer bolt that would be the same thread/pitch as your 550. Not sure exactly how much longer the bolt is, or how deep your adaptor is.

Part# 15420-333-000

EDIT: it is the same bolt used on the 650 Nighthawk

Shenanigans · « **Reply #337 on:** March 19, 2008, 03:00:13 PM »

The adapter is exactly one inch deep. So it sounds like a 650 nighthawk bolt will be my best bet?

City Boy · « **Reply #338 on:** March 19, 2008, 07:25:12 PM »

The same bolt is used on 350F and 400F.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #339 on:** March 20, 2008, 03:49:17 AM »

Don't do it. You'll notice that the centre hole in the Lockhart adapter plate is approx 25mm in dia, and the OEM Honda bolt is only 20mm dia.

The adapter plate needs a special threaded adapter to secure it onto the engine, the threaded adapter is internally threaded as well so that you can fasten the the oil filter canister to the oil cooler adapter.

If you just use a longer bolt like the CB750F2/F3 bolt, the oil will not be directed from the engine up to the cooler and back into the engine, but rather, it'll just flow around in that area and do nothing, so in essence, you'll have a "statue" of an oil cooler that does absolutely nothing. Here's a pic to illustrate my point. Cheers, Terry.

Shenanigans · « **Reply #340 on:** March 21, 2008, 03:33:20 AM »

Looks like my procrastination actually helped me for once. I have yet to go the local junk yard and get my bolt. So if the longer stock bolt wont work then where can I procure this special bolt? My adapter plate is the same one as the one you pictured. Thanks for saving me from finding out that the nighthawk bolt wont work. I'm a fan of trial, but not so much error.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #341 on:** March 21, 2008, 04:20:26 AM »

There must be a black hole that all the special adapter bolts have fallen into, as I've bought several coolers over the years, and most were missing them.

You'll need to get one made mate, I don't have one here right now, or I'd send it to you. Cheers, Terry.

Shenanigans · « **Reply #342 on:** March 21, 2008, 05:08:00 AM »

I hope I can find one in the rows of all the oil cooler stuff in the local junkyard tomorrow morning. By any chance does anyone have a picture of this bolt so I know what to look out for? Or can someone give me an idea of what I am looking for.

In the more likely case of having to get one made. Since I am unfamiliar with the process do I need to give them the specs. of the bolt I need? Are these measurements readily available or does anyone know what they are?

Or what about the simplest way, does else have one they will sell me?

Thanks for the help Terry, with the Arizona summer fast approaching I want This bike to be cool. Both figuratively and literally

eurban · « **Reply #343 on:** March 21, 2008, 05:18:23 AM »

Look at Terry's picture 3 posts up! The object in the center of the pic is the "bolt" you are looking for. It is designed to thread into the stock bolt hole on the engine. Its hex head flange holds the oil cooler adapter plate tight to the engine. It is also hollow with a tapped inner portion (on the hex head end) that your stock oil filter bolt will screw into.

Shenanigans · « **Reply #344 on:** March 21, 2008, 06:24:26 PM »

Any one got one they will sell me

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=32311.msg333537#msg333537

mustangcar · « **Reply #345 on:** April 10, 2008, 08:49:56 AM »

was thinking of splicing into one of the oil tank lines to add an oil cooler,mount the cooler maybe under the battery box,,not much air flow there i know,,hmm crazy idea?? maybe I will go with the oilfilter adapter plate sold by cyclexchange

City Boy · « **Reply #346 on:** April 10, 2008, 01:42:54 PM »

Not sure about the location for cooler you speak of,however plumbing the cooler to the oil tank return line is a good idea and this setup will be found on most race bike installations.Rock On

harald · « **Reply #347 on:** April 17, 2008, 04:59:29 AM »

I bought this oilcooler from ebay is it any good? My intension is to use it on my cb750 caferacer with F2 engine 836cc. I have put a bigger oiltank which helps cooling the oil a bit, but I wonder if this oilcooler helps at all or shall I get a real oilcooler ? Does anyone here have one ?

voxonda · « **Reply #348 on:** April 17, 2008, 05:20:40 AM »

Have used this one once on one of my earlier bikes, came from a F2 engine here in Europe. It is no way near as efficient as a 'real' cooler. How hot is your engine running? I always measure first, using a Racimex temp gauge, before taking action. Oil that is too hot is not good, but to low isn't good either.

Cheers, Rob

harald · « **Reply #349 on:** April 17, 2008, 08:08:51 AM »

I am not finished with my cafe racer yet, you can see it under "Project" "cb750 cafe racer" but as long as it does cool the oil a bit, it might do the work. I mean the temp. in Denmark seldom gets over 25 C . I will not put it on if it does not help at all. Do I need an oil cooler at all ?
cheers
Harald

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