Author Topic: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)  (Read 10191 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MoMo

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,275
  • Ride like you're invisible
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2017, 07:42:27 AM »
I bench and THEN vacuum sync ALL my SOHC4's. This is my first go at the V-Twin. It was suggested that I vacuum sync the VF500, but holy hell that's a complicated process to set the mixture and vacuum sync on the V4! It runs damn good with the bench sync, so I left it well enough alone. I'll see how the Ascot runs.




There is a special carb adjusting tool that is mandatory when syncing  V4 carbs, at least that has been my experience..  So, if you don't have it , I'd leave well enough alon e....Larry

Offline grcamna2

  • Not a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,150
  • I love to restore & travel. Keep'em Going Strong !
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2017, 10:04:45 AM »
nah, get the curved synch screwdriver and do it;smooth is always best.
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
  I love the small ones too !
Do your BEST...nobody can take that away from you.

Offline MoMo

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,275
  • Ride like you're invisible
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2017, 10:09:17 AM »
nah, get the curved synch screwdriver and do it;smooth is always best.



that's what I mean Bill.  I bought a Snap On one back in the 80's that worked on all V4s.  Most likely Motion Pro sells a similar tool

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2017, 11:13:00 AM »
nah, get the curved synch screwdriver and do it;smooth is always best.



that's what I mean Bill.  I bought a Snap On one back in the 80's that worked on all V4s.  Most likely Motion Pro sells a similar tool

 I have something similar. Used it on XS650's. The FSM also covers a fairly in depth procedure for the mixture screws on the VF500, too. Maybe I'll try it someday.
'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline grcamna2

  • Not a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,150
  • I love to restore & travel. Keep'em Going Strong !
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2017, 12:23:56 PM »
Scott,
I think the VF/Honda V-Fours are So smooth that they easily rival the smoothness of a Goldwing engine and fine-tuning just makes it that much better.I also hope you find a set of stock(84-85' VF500F mufflers flow Great as they're tuned for those years larger 32mm carbs.) exh. for yours,imo.  :)
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
  I love the small ones too !
Do your BEST...nobody can take that away from you.

Offline grcamna2

  • Not a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,150
  • I love to restore & travel. Keep'em Going Strong !
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2017, 12:26:18 PM »
nah, get the curved synch screwdriver and do it;smooth is always best.



that's what I mean Bill.  I bought a Snap On one back in the 80's that worked on all V4s.  Most likely Motion Pro sells a similar tool

Larry, Before I bought that tool from K&L I used a tiny little flat blade screwdriver and an 8mm wrench but it took twice as long..
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
  I love the small ones too !
Do your BEST...nobody can take that away from you.

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2017, 03:48:50 PM »
 Got the oil changed in both bikes (and the filter in the VT). It uses the same filter my VF500 uses and I just happened to have a couple on hand.
 I also got the 360 prepped for a valve and points adjustment this weekend. I already have the caliper apart and I'm just waiting on a box from 4into1.com so I can do the brakes, steering stem, forks, etc.
 Oh...and spent a few days soaking the tank with EvapoRust and finished up some particularly tough stuff with The Works. It's now bare metal inside and coated with Marvel Mystery Oil.

 I gathered up the stuff for the brakes on the VT but was stymied by some stuck pistons in the caliper I picked up. I just have a little 3 gallon compressor and it wouldn't pop them out (and BTW, I used the grease gun method the the CB360 caliper. Didn't want to do that on the dual piston VT caliper). I'll drop it off at my buddy's shop and have him pop them out.
 I had a new 16mm master cylinder on hand. Bought it for the VF500 and ended up not needing it. I picked up some EBC pads and had a stainless hose made at a local hydraulics shop. Only $24!

'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2017, 03:51:19 PM »
 Found these bars at the local Mom 'n' Pop motorcycle shop. NOS Honda CRF230F bars for only $35. I had to finagle them a bit because of the non-detachable cross bar, but they work. It's amazing what a simple bar change can do!
 The controls aren't fully tightened down yet. I'll do that once I have the seat on.



'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2017, 10:33:32 AM »
 Over the last few days I've gotten the triple tree repaired on the CB360, as well as rebuilding the forks and front brakes.
 Moved on to the Ascot and got the radiator flushed and coolant changed. Changed the gear oil in the final drive. Rebuilt the forks and installed a new (old) drilled rotor, braided S.S. hose, EBC pads and new master cylinder.





 Also ordered some new tires; Kenda K-761's.

'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline Fezzler

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 300
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2017, 06:45:14 PM »
Mr. Efficiency!  Can't wait to see Ascot done!
1975 Honda CB550f in parts in progress
1978 Honda CB550 Four K4
1971 Honda CB500 Four K0
2008 105th Anniversary Edition HD Road King
(Sold) 1998 Honda Shadow ACE Deluxe VT750
1973 Schwinn Stingray (Blue Deluxe - RIP Jack and Rose)

Offline NobleHops

  • Don ya be callin' me no
  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,345
  • Misfit - Tucson, Arizona
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2017, 11:40:31 AM »
Mr. Efficiency!  Can't wait to see Ascot done!

What he said - excellent!
Nils Menten * Tucson, Arizona, USA

I have a motorcycle problem.

My build thread: NobleHops makes a 400F pretty for his wife: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=131210.0

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2017, 10:03:57 AM »
 After struggling with the rear axle nut for over an hour.... heat, impact gun, PB Blaster, you name it....I was finally able to free it by having the GF hold the axle with a screwdriver on the opposite side while I used a 2 ft. piece of PVC pipe on a 2 ft. breaker bar. It was just stuck with corrosion and age. I cleaned it up and lubed everything properly on reassembly.
 New tires mounted and balanced and brakes properly adjusted.




 Nice and meaty all the way around and still clears the fender and swing arm with room to spare.


'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline Fezzler

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 300
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2017, 11:41:58 AM »
Those tires look great with those wheels.  Nice match.

1975 Honda CB550f in parts in progress
1978 Honda CB550 Four K4
1971 Honda CB500 Four K0
2008 105th Anniversary Edition HD Road King
(Sold) 1998 Honda Shadow ACE Deluxe VT750
1973 Schwinn Stingray (Blue Deluxe - RIP Jack and Rose)

Offline RAFster122s

  • I feel like a really really
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,368
  • SOHC4 member # 2605
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2017, 08:55:41 PM »
Are the Kenda tires known for good wet and dry traction?  With the wide siping they will be noisy.
They look like they would have good traction in a bit of dirt/gravel, light off road.
David
David- back in the desert SW!

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2017, 03:51:59 AM »
 I don't know. Haven't ridden it yet. And I tend to not ride in the rain much. I had some Avon Distanzia tires on an XS650 once.... similar style tire....and they were fine on the street.
'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2017, 04:16:45 AM »
 Also, most new updates on these projects will be here:

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,167127.0.html
'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline BomberMann650

  • Holy Cow! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,422
  • Dr. Bovinestein iBa#80333
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2017, 03:37:16 PM »
I have a question.

Where can people find parts for the vt500ft?

My friends rat-scot blew up while she was touring oregon for the eclipse.

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #42 on: September 09, 2017, 02:45:49 AM »
 eBay is probably the best option.
'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline BomberMann650

  • Holy Cow! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,422
  • Dr. Bovinestein iBa#80333
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2017, 09:21:48 AM »
eBay is probably the best option.

How do I get ebay to stop confusing the vt500ft twin with the 500 thumper single?

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #44 on: September 09, 2017, 09:50:52 AM »
eBay is probably the best option.

How do I get ebay to stop confusing the vt500ft twin with the 500 thumper single?

 I type in "Honda VT500 Ascot". That generally separates the FT/single cylinder stuff from the V-Twin. If you know what particular parts she needs, cross reference them. Many of them were used on the VT500C, aka the Shadow cruiser bike.
'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650

Offline BomberMann650

  • Holy Cow! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,422
  • Dr. Bovinestein iBa#80333
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #45 on: September 09, 2017, 12:59:40 PM »
eBay is probably the best option.

How do I get ebay to stop confusing the vt500ft twin with the 500 thumper single?

 I type in "Honda VT500 Ascot". That generally separates the FT/single cylinder stuff from the V-Twin. If you know what particular parts she needs, cross reference them. Many of them were used on the VT500C, aka the Shadow cruiser bike.

Thanks, now I know what I've been doing wrong!

Offline Bankerdanny

  • Eventually I will be old enough in reality to be
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,626
  • Endeavor to persevere
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2017, 10:53:48 AM »
eBay is probably the best option.

How do I get ebay to stop confusing the vt500ft twin with the 500 thumper single?

Well, stop calling it the VT500FT for one. The FT500 is the single, the VT500 is the twin. If you include the FT at the end of your search you are confusing eBay.

You can also use the option to narrow down the search by a specific make/model/year
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they're true" - Abraham Lincoln

Current: '76 CB750F. Previous:  '75 CB550F, 2007 Yamaha Vino 125 Scooter, '75 Harley FXE Superglide, '77 GL1000, '77 CB550k, '68 Suzuki K10 80, '68 Yamaha YR2, '69 BMW R69S, '71 Honda SL175, '02 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, '89 Yamaha FJ1200

Offline BomberMann650

  • Holy Cow! I'm a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,422
  • Dr. Bovinestein iBa#80333
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2017, 12:00:37 PM »
eBay is probably the best option.

How do I get ebay to stop confusing the vt500ft twin with the 500 thumper single?

Well, stop calling it the VT500FT for one. The FT500 is the single, the VT500 is the twin. If you include the FT at the end of your search you are confusing eBay.

You can also use the option to narrow down the search by a specific make/model/year

If the demonic ascot could get any quirky-er.  Vt500ft is the full model number/type.

Anyone know of a good camshaft upgrade that can be done?

Offline RAFster122s

  • I feel like a really really
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,368
  • SOHC4 member # 2605
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2017, 05:22:46 PM »
Drop a cbr600rr motor in is a nice camshaft upgrade I hear...  ;D :D
Yeah, I will probably burn for my cheeky response.
David- back in the desert SW!

Offline Scott S

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,232
Re: What about the VT 500 Ascot? (and a possible package deal)
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2017, 04:05:50 AM »
 There's a little bit of hop up info here:. http://ascot500.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=feu6rn2ho2abp033jvqhpp5fn4;
'71 CB500 K0
'17 Triumph Street Scrambler
'81 Yamaha XS650