Author Topic: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.  (Read 11670 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Lostboy Steve

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,096
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2017, 04:33:14 AM »
Well that was a really wet ride into work. Anyway, it got slightly better. I'm getting more mixed signals than a businessman with a pocket full of cash in a strip club ridden with c-section scar dancers.

So at idle it smelled pig rich. Like raw fuel, however the stumble was still there just not as worse. So then I thought, well maybe it's rich at idle and immediately goes lean upon touching the throttle, because again if you goose it up it seems to fight through it. So I backed out the mixture (volume) screw a half turn. As it warmed up the idle got worse, and smelled worse. So, finally, after being fed up and soaked from riding 25 miles is a piss warm fog, I screwed the volume screw in almost completely and guess what? Idle smoothed, and my short ride around the block just now was almost completely smooth even at full twist at low rpm. So what have we learned? No clue.

One thing is for sure, these clone carbs are tough to quality control. So you don't know how precise they are, and if anything is true, it's that I'll be the guy to get the one that is a little off.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
1968 Honda Z50
1977 Honda CB550K
2018 Indian Scout

Offline dusterdude

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,482
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 06:56:50 AM »
The GL does not have a vacuum advance. 
The 34 Pict3 was designed for the vacuum advance from the VW distributor.  That is why everyone in the VW world has problems with that carb when they switch to the 009 distributor.   Also the reason I am still rocking a vacuum advance dist on my Ghia. 

First thing I was thinking about...  did you block all of the Vacuum ports on the front and side of the carb?  Just use those little rubber nipples from the auto parts store.

This info was taken from a page specifically about tuning the solex 34 with the 009. 

"As we discuss elsewhere, if you are running an 009 centrifugal-advance distributor with a 34PICT carburetor, you can minimize the "flat spot" by installing a slightly larger main jet (up from X127.5 to X130 or X132.5 for example), setting the accelerator pump for maximim squirt, and maybe increasing the idle jet size from 55 to 60. Then set the maximum distributor advance to as much of the 28-32 degrees BTDC as it can take without the engine detonating/pinging."

The jet sizes may be different for you on the GL. 

Here is another site that has some steps to try http://www.aircooledtech.com/34pict3_modification/

I am interested in hearing how it works out for you.


Edit:  Can you snap some pictures of the setup installed?  from a few angles would be good too.
Funny,both of mine have a vacuum advance

Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk

mark
1972 k1 750
1949 fl panhead
1 1/2 gl1100 goldwings
1998 cbr600 f3

Offline scottly

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,274
  • Humboldt, AZ
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2017, 09:33:48 PM »
The SC conversions instructions refer to a vacuum pump?!! WTF??
 7. Connect the larger vacuum line (from vacuum pump) to the larger vacuum connection on the carburetor and plug the small vacuum line as well as the small connection on the carburetor.
Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
Helmets save brains. Always wear one and ride like everyone is trying to kill you....

Offline Lostboy Steve

  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,096
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2017, 03:06:40 AM »
The SC conversions instructions refer to a vacuum pump?!! WTF??
 7. Connect the larger vacuum line (from vacuum pump) to the larger vacuum connection on the carburetor and plug the small vacuum line as well as the small connection on the carburetor.

Lol.

I had it almost perfect and then this happened.



So off with he head(s).


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
1968 Honda Z50
1977 Honda CB550K
2018 Indian Scout

Offline CBGhia

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,347
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2017, 06:33:45 AM »
The GL does not have a vacuum advance. 

Funny,both of mine have a vacuum advance

Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk

I went out and looked at mine. I could not find any place where a vacuum line would come from there.
I looked it up.  The 1100 has the vacuum advance and the 1000 does not.   So OP's wing will have a vacuum advance that should be hooked up to the vacuum port on the left side of the carb.  The front one should be blocked off.   
CB550 Cafe, GL1000, Buell Ulysses
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

Offline scottly

  • Global Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,274
  • Humboldt, AZ
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2017, 10:06:52 PM »
The fully vacuum advance VW distributors took a signal off a port on the carb between the venturi and the throttle plate; as airflow through the carb increased, more advance was added. It worked similar to the earlier mechanical advance distributors, until you changed something, like install a big-bore kit; the increased flow would increase the vacuum signal, advancing the timing at a lower RPM. Standard practice was to switch to a mechanical advance distributor like the 009. If the carb was changed to a Holley bug spray, the mechanical distributor was mandatory, as there was no port on the carb that would mimic the Solex.
Most older cars used a combination of mechanical advance and vacuum advance, but while the mechanical advance was RPM based, the manifold vacuum referenced advance was based on engine load; at light load/high vacuum, advance was added on top of the mechanical. At high load, full throttle type situations, the manifold vacuum drops, and the timing decreases. If the GL vacuum advance is referenced to the manifold, as in under the throttle plates, the normal Solex distributor port won't work properly.   
Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
Helmets save brains. Always wear one and ride like everyone is trying to kill you....

Offline eenvader

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 30
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2017, 05:15:01 AM »
Hi nice to meet you all, I'm in the same boat, but my carb and manifold took 28 days to get here and now I'm trying to get all this to work and its 10 degrees C  out.... all the same problems, if you snap the throttle, it dies, need to rev it to 4000 to get the bike out of the driveway, you have to baby the throttle up to 4000 k or there is no power, I have a GL1100, not sure if my vacuum advance even works anymore, is that going to be an issue ? .... and do you plug it into the little vacuum port or the fatter one ? I went this route because I thought it was going to be plug and play, not....did you figure anything out ?   thanks

Offline dusterdude

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,482
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2017, 05:17:28 PM »
Hi nice to meet you all, I'm in the same boat, but my carb and manifold took 28 days to get here and now I'm trying to get all this to work and its 10 degrees C  out.... all the same problems, if you snap the throttle, it dies, need to rev it to 4000 to get the bike out of the driveway, you have to baby the throttle up to 4000 k or there is no power, I have a GL1100, not sure if my vacuum advance even works anymore, is that going to be an issue ? .... and do you plug it into the little vacuum port or the fatter one ? I went this route because I thought it was going to be plug and play, not....did you figure anything out ?   thanks
Post this on the classicgoldwings forum.whole bunch of good info there

Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk

mark
1972 k1 750
1949 fl panhead
1 1/2 gl1100 goldwings
1998 cbr600 f3

Offline CBGhia

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,347
Re: Anyone know Solex 34 pict 3 carbs? For a gl1100.
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2017, 06:15:48 AM »
Hi nice to meet you all, I'm in the same boat, but my carb and manifold took 28 days to get here and now I'm trying to get all this to work and its 10 degrees C  out.... all the same problems, if you snap the throttle, it dies, need to rev it to 4000 to get the bike out of the driveway, you have to baby the throttle up to 4000 k or there is no power, I have a GL1100, not sure if my vacuum advance even works anymore, is that going to be an issue ? .... and do you plug it into the little vacuum port or the fatter one ? I went this route because I thought it was going to be plug and play, not....did you figure anything out ?   thanks
Post this on the classicgoldwings forum.whole bunch of good info there

Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk

Or the the naked goldwings forum.  They have a whole sub-forum dedicated to the unique carburation.
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=47
CB550 Cafe, GL1000, Buell Ulysses
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson