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CB vs CM
« on: July 18, 2017, 04:36:59 AM »
Looking at a '81 CM 400A online.  What is difference between a CB and a CM? Haven't seen bike personally.
With  the automatic ,am I looking at a real dog.  I'm past the "need for speed" but don't want a slug either.  Thanks
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 05:46:49 AM »
 The CM400 is a twin. There was a CB400 twin that used essentially the same engine as the CM. They are both completely different than any SOHC4.
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 06:23:15 AM »
Quote from: trebot on July 18, 2017, 04:36:59 AM
Looking at a '81 CM 400A online.  What is difference between a CB and a CM? Haven't seen bike personally.
Most of the differences are in the frame, different rakes, trail, etc. Most of the CMs are cruiser or factory chopper bikes. The C model "customs" added comstars rims and a few other popular for the time chopper appointments. The engines are the same but I don't remember if the final drive ratios are the same.


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With  the automatic ,am I looking at a real dog.  I'm past the "need for speed" but don't want a slug either.  Thanks

yes. Not going to sugar coat it for you, even the manual trans CB/CM 3 valve engines aren't all that exciting. They literally are the embodiment of UJM in how bland they are. A 1970-1974 cb450 they are not. I think of the hondamatics as motorcycle shaped, highway legal scooters, more than actual bikes. That being said it won't be so slow as to be a dnager in traffic, and I have a coworker who rode one regularly till she got pregnant. 
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 11:28:38 AM »
The CB and CM400 twin has no guts.  The frame is pretty darn ugly too. 
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 11:37:05 AM »
yes boring bikes.
.find a cb 500 or 550..they are fun to ride..the smallest power  bikes to bay.
.400 is to small..id you only have one bike..
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 02:34:41 PM »
I think I'd prefer a CB400F to a CM/CB400 twin.  Better handling and likely more top end.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 02:35:42 PM »
Quote from: strynboen on July 18, 2017, 11:37:05 AM
yes boring bikes.
.find a cb 500 or 550..they are fun to ride..the smallest power  bikes to bay.
.400 is to small..id you only have one bike..

What strynboen said.  Get a 550 or drop a 650 motor into a 550 frame!
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 05:26:55 PM »
I find it difficult to believe that riding a motorcycle will cause pregnancy. ;D
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 05:38:00 PM »
Quote from: Killer Canary on July 18, 2017, 05:26:55 PM
I find it difficult to believe that riding a motorcycle will cause pregnancy. ;D

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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2017, 07:13:34 AM »
Quote from: Killer Canary on July 18, 2017, 05:26:55 PM
I find it difficult to believe that riding a motorcycle will cause pregnancy. ;D

funny.

her husband actually hates motorcycles so as soon as she got pregnant he made her give the bike up, so she gave it to her mother to ride around rural ohio.

If you want a sex metaphor for the CM400A, I would equate the experience to contracting an STD - all the fun you are ever going to have with it is in acquiring it, and then you have to live with the consequences of of your fun mistake.
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2017, 08:14:11 AM »
Quote from: Geeto67 on July 19, 2017, 07:13:34 AM
Quote from: Killer Canary on July 18, 2017, 05:26:55 PM
I find it difficult to believe that riding a motorcycle will cause pregnancy. ;D

funny.

her husband actually hates motorcycles so as soon as she got pregnant he made her give the bike up, so she gave it to her mother to ride around rural ohio.

If you want a sex metaphor for the CM400A, I would equate the experience to contracting an STD - all the fun you are ever going to have with it is in acquiring it, and then you have to live with the consequences of of your fun mistake.

LOL! I guess there's some "fun" in getting a bike cheap, but the 400 twin is a bit of a slug.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2017, 06:39:53 AM »
I remember all of the hype that Honda was creating over the 400 twin even before it was released.
I was already in lust with the 400F but saw nothing in it's replacement.
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Re: CB vs CM
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2017, 09:14:02 AM »
think ve have lost the tread starter..... :P
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