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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2017, 01:11:54 PM »
about the wobbly front:
do what stev-o said, plus put the fender back or install a fork brace.
the stock fender acted as a fork brace. the forks themselves, with the comparatively spindly tubes, are quite
 unstable and need all the support they can get.

and yes, nice bike!

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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2017, 02:01:01 PM »
Hey Flatlander,

I just followed your CB550 link... I know what I'll be reading tonight.  Looks like I'm heading down a path not too different from yours, 23 pages of project.

Is a "fork brace" a part or is it a project?  If a project, can you point me to a picture of a well executed one?


 
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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2017, 03:27:16 AM »
Right now, the front end is way to soft and perhaps even unstable.  We'll be considering a complete fork replacement, but that contemplation (and learning curve) is a ways down the road.  Our serious thought about ergonomics and the perfect bar for the bike will be part of that.

 Then reconsider removing the front fender. It adds a good bit of stiffness and prevents the forks from flexing and twisting.
 Things you can do at home:
 * Repack the steering stem bearings and tighten the steering stem. If you feel adventurous, go for All Balls tapered bearing replacements, but simply cleaning, greasing and re-using the ball bearings and tightening up the stem will help.
 * Fork seals and fresh oil. Some people go up on the oil weight a little bit. Some people add a few extra cc's of oil. You can even add a thick washer on top of the spring to create a little pre-load. Any or all of these things will stiffen up the forks a noticeable amount. Progressive makes springs for these bikes that are affordable, but I'm not a fan. They're actually TOO stiff for me.

let be the first of what will be a flood of members to say: do not cut up this bike.

You have what appears to be a really nice survivor. There are plenty of beat up, half finished 550's out there that can be converted into a café, there are fewer and fewer nice original bikes, particularly with the original 4-4 exhaust on them.

Now maybe it isn't as nice as it appears in that photo. But if it is, please don't ruin it. And I am not hating on café bikes. I like them. But I just hate to see a clean original bike needlessly lost when there are so many bikes that would be improved by turning them into a café.
That is a nice looking survivor,would be a shame to damage it. Not here to judge though,its your bike. How many miles are on it. Unless oil is leaking badly just may need a good tune-up/carb clean to resolve its running issues.

 This. This X 100.
 Good rubber, maybe a 4 into 1 exhaust if yours is rusty. Some Super Bike or 400F bars. Go through the suspension and a good tune up. Ride.
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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2017, 03:50:24 AM »
Hey Flatlander,

I just followed your CB550 link... I know what I'll be reading tonight.  Looks like I'm heading down a path not too different from yours, 23 pages of project.

Is a "fork brace" a part or is it a project?  If a project, can you point me to a picture of a well executed one?


if you did read my complete thread then you must have come across the part about the fork brace  ;)
my path is a slipper one that leads to lots of time and money spend on something that doesn't even look like that much was put in it so probably a complete waste, ha ha!

a fork brace itself is a part. it creates an additional bridge between the legs to stiffen the construction. the early 550 legs are shorter than later ones, you and i both have those. there is no commercially available brace for them, that fits over the tyre. i had mine made by t-kat, a guy who custom made it. he's got the measurements now and his cnc programmed so could turn out one for you. many don't like it's chunky look but it certainly adds a lot of stability.
a more subtle look is the tarozzi that only fits the later, longer for legs and is available off-the-shelf if you want that you'd have to get a hold of a pair of the longer ones from a later 550 and change them, i think the k3 or f2 models had them.

but if you put your front fender back on and do the things that stev-o and scott suggest, your frontend will already feel much better and the overall ride will be more stable. a brace can be an addition that, if you like to push the envelope and especially if you add more power to the engine, improves the handling a lot. generally speaking, for a bike that's actually being ridden i'd always use a fender unless you love getting spray and grit all over the bike and yourself.

if this bike is a keeper for you, work out your suspension, brakes and general chassis first before doing anything else, it will really make it feel a lot more confident.

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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2017, 07:42:43 AM »
After a close inspection of the front end, I found that the instability is in the tire.  It was at pressure, but was probably run below pressure for some time.  The center ridge is a good 1/8" taller than the rest of the tread, so I suspect the instability is from this ridge.  It feels like having grounded-asphalt ridges built into the bike, so this makes sense.
 
Having said that, there is oil seeping out of the fork, so we will put in some new seals and such, as has been recommended. 

The project starts next weekend...
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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2017, 08:15:51 AM »
I found that the instability is in the tire.

How old is the tire?  [Date of manufacture is on the sidewall]

If over 6 years, time to order new...
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Re: 1976 CB 550 Handlebar Flip?
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2017, 09:39:18 AM »
Eh, do what you want with your own bike.  Just don’t be foolish about it.

Already watched a facebook builder strip a mint sapphire blue 550f for their vision.
You won’t be able to do a worse deed than that imo..