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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2017, 05:41:11 PM »
Lots of lacquer used in those years, if not then its acrylic enamel.
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2017, 10:20:13 PM »
This might make some of you fell a little better  LOL



Looks tremendously better in natural light.
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2017, 12:54:42 AM »
Beautiful! When I built this K2 a few years ago I painted it with a blue candy, and while it looks quite light here in this pic taken on a sunny day, in the shade, it was quite dark. I've still got some of this blue candy, I might have to paint my K2 bitsa the same color! ;D

Terry's blue K2 by Terry Prendergast, on Flickr
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 07:46:03 AM »
Candy is difficult to photograph. If you are in bright light, the silver beneath overpowers the photo and you don't really see what it looks like.
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2017, 07:55:16 AM »
Looks great Pete. Is it a true metallic?  I had a K5 a few years and dont recall it being metallic?
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2017, 07:59:05 AM »
I think you are confusing metallic with metal flake. Most/many paints are metallic, where it has tiny metallic like pieces in the paint. They can be small or larger in size, still very small compared to metal flake. Metal flake is a three, or more step, process that uses very large pieces that are sprayed as a separate step. Or perhaps you are confusing it with a candy that was used on some of the colors? because, there is no "true metallic" term associated with metallic colors. They are very, very common and not such a big deal.
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2017, 08:30:45 AM »
I think you are confusing metallic with metal flake.

No, let me rephrase my question:

The Planet Blue you are painting is metallic?

[I dont recall my Planet Blue K5 paint being metallic and it was original paint but in fair cond]

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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2017, 08:34:57 AM »
Absolutely is metallic. Here it's even called Planet Blue Metallic. It wouldn't look the same at all without the metallic mix.

http://www.ct70paint.com/planet-blue-metallic.html
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2017, 08:38:45 AM »
Absolutely is metallic. Here it's even called Planet Blue Metallic. It wouldn't look the same at all without the metallic mix.


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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2017, 11:24:11 AM »
Now that's a nice deep blue. Can't wait for the next step!  8)
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2017, 11:55:21 AM »
Candy is difficult to photograph. If you are in bright light, the silver beneath overpowers the photo and you don't really see what it looks like.

Pete,

My understanding is that candy is hard to match existing paint because the amount you spray determines its brilliance.  Whereas, metallic requires care in matching the flake size and grain.  Is that correct?
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 12:04:55 PM »
Candy is difficult to photograph. If you are in bright light, the silver beneath overpowers the photo and you don't really see what it looks like.

Pete,

My understanding is that candy is hard to match existing paint because the amount you spray determines its brilliance.  Whereas, metallic requires care in matching the flake size and grain.  Is that correct?

Absolutely correct. Overlap has to be equal through the paint job. If a car or truck, you walk the entire side of the vehicle, no painting panels as you go down the side. Obviously a tank is MUCH easier. Still not room for errors. If a bug lands, you are screwed. With a typical paint job the bug can be removed and more paint sprayed to cover the spot . . not with candy. If any fancy work ( flames, etc ) is being done with the candy . . . no room for errors or start all over. Been there, done that unfortunately.
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2017, 01:06:55 PM »
A little bit of candy for you. I wet sanded the tank and applied the decal. I do this a bit backwards, but I like it this way. If I sprayed the black first I think I would damage it while applying he decal. If I cleared the black, then wet sanded it and applied the decal . . that is just wasted work in my mind; not efficient. So I just tape the decal and spray the black. With some glasses on it isn't difficult to get a good taped edge at the decal and spray the black. Then you un-tape and clear everything . .works for me best this way.

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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2017, 12:15:04 PM »


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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2017, 02:07:45 PM »
I was wondering if you could get a clean black up to the edge of the decal without buggering up the decal when you removed the mask. Nicely done.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2017, 03:20:11 PM »
Seriously? That isn't a concern at all. I use good products and I never have that problem. When the decal is down, it's down. No Fineline tape is going to disturb it at all.

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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2017, 06:40:53 PM »
Wow!! That's some craftsmanship going on right there!

Sure glad I went to the right person.
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2017, 09:30:40 AM »
Nice work!

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« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2017, 04:47:17 PM »
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2017, 05:44:24 PM »
Beautiful tank, there is going to be one happy member about that work.  Hope he takes plenty of pics and updates his insurance.

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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2017, 02:05:55 AM »
Beaut work Pete!  8)  Gotta luuurv blues...in all their hues!  :)

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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2017, 03:18:51 AM »
Beautiful tank! Makes me want to get a tank painted now!
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2017, 07:23:45 AM »
Still doesn't look metallic enough.
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Re: '75 Planet Blue Metallic project
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2017, 01:26:47 PM »
Still doesn't look metallic enough.

I don't know what your agenda is but as I've mentioned, I am the one who ordered the paint (pre-mixed) and sent it to Pete, so if there's any fault as far as the paint used, it's mine.

Here is the website it came from, and it's clearly listed as Planet Blue Metallic:

http://www.ct70paint.com/planet-blue-metallic.html

So perhaps you should contact them and make your displeasure known to them.
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