Author Topic: Amen Savior-Started wrenchin (Read 7519 times)

63SSRagtop · « **on:** September 22, 2017, 10:09:15 PM »

Picked this up a few months ago.. been trying to get organized so that I can get to working on her.. bought a couple more SOHC's.. really is getting out of hand but recently picked up the 76 which already has a punched 836 in it.. she's donating to the chopper though.. had to make a stem to get the P&P springer on.. going to mock up a 'straight' traditional rocker and cut some 'sugar bear' style ones in an attempt to get zero trail.. been looking high and low for the right tank.. think I have a couple figured out though!

754 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2017, 06:25:09 AM »

Good start there, the longer rockers may need stiffer springs though.
I am planning to use the same frame but with stock length front end, thats the cool thing about custom bikes..endless possibilities..

MoMo · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2017, 04:48:49 PM »

Nice, not a fan of choppers but that looks a bike with fantastic potential....Larry

Desert-SOHC · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2017, 07:34:49 PM »

Nice! I'm starting the parts gathering for a Santee swingarm chopper

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2017, 12:08:43 AM »

Quote from: MoMo on September 23, 2017, 04:48:49 PM

Nice, not a fan of choppers but that looks a bike with fantastic potential....Larry

sooo...you ARE a chopper fan. Can't wait to see what happens with this.

MoMo · « **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2017, 05:17:11 AM »

Quote from: seanbarney41 on September 24, 2017, 12:08:43 AM

Quote from: MoMo on September 23, 2017, 04:48:49 PM
Nice, not a fan of choppers but that looks a bike with fantastic potential....Larry
sooo...you ARE a chopper fan. Can't wait to see what happens with this.

Closet, guess I've been exposed , least I'm not a closet queen

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2017, 08:54:35 AM »

Yeah every since I built the walking bike I wanted something thin... from the front, super thin.. I'd planned on building this bike straight up old school and the verdict isn't totally out on that yet, I always sit out there with a cigar and some wine and try to figure out where to go with her next.. My buddy turned a new stem for me that I got yesterday so its going in today.. believe I have the exact mounting points figured out for the lower rocker but still need to either get a sugar bear template or start freehanding the rockers.. Have another buddy with some sort of plasma that will trace or follow along white card board for an exact match..

Do suspect I will be going a little heavier on the front spring and definitely going a bit heavier on the rear.. have the right part number for that somewhere around here.. Do have the front tire set at zero trail right now but suspect once weight is on the bike it'll cruise into about a 1-2 inch trail...

My main goal is to hide everything as best I can.. I like the clean look.. Going to recess the bottom of the fuel tank to hide the coil packs and any other electronics I can stick in there.. probably weld on placebo main tube sections here and there to give me a routing area for wires and such..

Front disc is going to be a large floating disc, probably an r6 one as I noticed yesterday that they have 10 buttons which will work out perfect for the inner spider that has to be cnc'd to match the spokes on the invader.. in theory from the side all you will see is the wagon wheel with spider section semi hidden.. if that made any damn sense at all..

Break stay isn't drilled into the lowers so I plan on making a clamp identical to the lower triple tree or perhaps even using the lower leg springer bolt as a mounting point.. that will be next after the rockers are cut..

754 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:28:17 AM »

I hope you run a form fitting seat that follows fender and maybe up the sissy bar...? Like the Denver's Choppers.
The sprung seat won't cut it in my opinion.
I WANT TO BUILD A LOWRIDER Amen so bad I can taste it... I think about it almost every day..

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #8 on:** September 28, 2017, 03:10:59 PM »

Quote from: 63SSRagtop on September 25, 2017, 08:54:35 AM

Yeah every since I built the walking bike I wanted something thin... from the front, super thin..

If thinness was the objective, why not use a twin? Or was the choice of a in-line four dictated by a deal too good to pass up?

754 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2017, 03:51:45 PM »

I think he is talking a Denver's 750 chopper look or leaning towards that.

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #10 on:** September 28, 2017, 04:33:56 PM »

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If thinness was the objective, why not use a twin? Or was the choice of a in-line four dictated by a deal too good to pass up?

Yah, got a good deal on the amen, it was the wheels oddly enough I wanted more but yeah.. I'd totally build a twin one day when I can get my hands on one.. a pan I'd rather just because its a pan..

Yah, I've been thinking about what to do with the seat.. when I get the front end ironed out and the mock up engine in I'm going to spend more time scratching my head back there.. I'm pretty sure I'm going with a small sissy bar, twisted metal of course... I like the look of the metal seat but I'm all about the overall look.. a traditional seat with small pad up the fender will give me room to hide electronics in a pocket under the seat so that's more than likely the direction I'm going..

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2017, 10:21:33 PM »

Made some progress this weekend.. got the rough rockers cut.. got a new axle hub made and made the spacers that will be welded onto the back of the rockers... Have measurements sorted out to make the two part bolt's that i'll be using to keep the rocker on the trees.. slow going but it nice to be making progress!

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2017, 04:56:59 AM »

Made a prototype female for the lowers.. think i'm armed now to cut the stainless ones.. wish i knew exactly how wide they are across the flats but hey it'll be close enough...

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2017, 08:21:06 PM »

Got the rockers on today.. going to get an engine in the next couple of days and see how she feels.. I think I may have to make a slightly smaller arc on them to bring up the front a tad.. Ended up pretty close to 0 trail though.. didn't have a chance to find level ground to measure it though.. Really want to start working through the rest of the frame though!

lxcoupe89 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 02, 2017, 01:21:52 PM »

Sweet Bike. That's a cool project

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #15 on:** November 04, 2017, 11:21:18 PM »

Thanks LX, got the engine in today solo.. what a pain in the butt.. Going to be remaking the rockers with a little less reach in them.. still on same 50 degree plane I think on unsprung i'll be into negative trail and that's no bueno.. another inch or so back and i'll be good.. was damn good advice a buddy gave me.. mock it all up first before you spend hours finishing off the wrong rockers! Glad to be at this point.. can start putting brackets where they need to be and work down the frame!

754 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 19, 2017, 06:09:14 PM »

Let me know if you don't want the pics of mine in here.
Slow starting out on this, so not worth starting a thread yet.
Although it's an Amen Savior, it's the opposite end of the spectrum from the 63 SS build.

754 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 19, 2017, 06:20:31 PM »

So this is the first mockup of any parts.
I knew the rear fender would look like crap, the plan us to make something, that incorporates the rear 40 percent of that one. With that back angle, but seat would be further ahead and down to the frame. The rear of seat will have the standard Champion style hoop, then run under the fender as it gets to the front, it will be a subframe that mounts to frame, then fender hides the mounts. Rear of fender can come down maybe 1,5 inches, the the portion under the seat will go right dow tobthe frame.
The tank will be near where it is now, back is raised up, to get where it sits now.
I am a bit dismayed at the height of the rear wheel, its an 18 inch knockoff flat track wheel.
Will try a lower profile tire hope to avoid relacing to 17 inch.. to center of axle is about 13 1/4.

BPellerine · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2017, 06:57:45 AM »

nice lines on that one frank,love the tank!bill

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2017, 03:59:11 PM »

Ah no worries man I seen something somewhere that mentioned getting a frame finally and was wondering when you were going to post up some pics!

Kind of helped me too.. I've been trying to figure out how to customize the rear motor plates and got to looking at the ones that came with the bike and thought there has to be a spacer in there, as mine are simply flat... Wonder where I can get actual blueprints??

Should be simple enough to mock up.. I'm going to make some out of punch screen I think.. it's nice to be able to focus on the frame design some now.. Know of any on here that were custom made?? I even thought about welding chain links or something similar.. My bike is definitely going to be a head turner lol

754 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2017, 06:40:26 PM »

We're your motor plates missing ? I could do a tracing of mine or sell them to you. THhe one on mine is welded ON ONE SIDE, I heard that was done on later frames. My frame I had decades ago both came off.
They are simple, 1/4 inch plate with a thin bushing welded on the inside.
In keeping with the theme of what I want to build I was thinking aluminum plates, with the centre portion milled back to be lighter like Norton side plates. I I get some milling time in, I would probably make more than 1 set ..

One thing I always loved about the CB 750, is you can build it in so many ways, truly a great bike to build the way you want it.
I may also trim some weight out of the Gus sets that are just ahead of the plunger units. Also missing the rear acorn type top nuts if anyone has a set to sell with bad chrome Ie paintable.. although I may make some aluminum ones..

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2017, 07:02:17 PM »

Yeah the ones that came with the bike are somebody's stainless home made ones and I don't like them, plus I want to weld the passenger side on like they did on later frames.. it will get rid of a couple of bolt heads (where the bolt to tabs on the frame)..

I'm going to try and get rid of every hex head I can and those I have to keep are going to be the tapered allen's.. (need to find a good place still to get them all still).. Plan on doing the engine casing in the same manner.. whole engine is getting some Harley crinkle paint when I can get the motor I'm using out of the old bike..

removing the tabs that hold the oil tank and rear foot pegs and mount directly into the frame where I need to..

Really just need to know how tall the spacers are so I can get set mad to weld onto the plate.. I've got to make something of those plates though.. something unusual!

754 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2017, 07:34:26 PM »

Let me know if you need a tracing..
The oil tank tabs, footpeg tabs, sissy bar tabs, fender mounts, I will be grinding to be round not square, it will look better.

63SSRagtop · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2017, 12:08:28 AM »

Yeah I can definitely use a height and diameter measurement on the right side spacers.. they definitely didn’t think about aesthetics on those tabs in the day!

Medyo Bastos · « **Reply #24 on:** November 22, 2017, 04:39:29 AM »

I think I have an extra engine mount under my bed. But I won’t be back in town for a few days.

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Author Topic: Amen Savior-Started wrenchin (Read 7519 times)