Author Topic: Ford Engines (Read 5495 times)

red_haint · « **on:** December 27, 2006, 06:42:22 PM »

Ahh, I have been enlightened, thank you very much. As for the FE, ford is the only one I knew using that combo.....good engine family too.

dusterdude · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2006, 08:20:02 AM »

Quote from: red_haint on December 27, 2006, 06:42:22 PM

Ahh, I have been enlightened, thank you very much. As for the FE, ford is the only one I knew using that combo.....good engine family too.

freakin boat anchors

rt · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2006, 08:39:44 AM »

Duster -

red_haint · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2006, 01:14:43 PM »

well sure it was, but damn was it a good engine, I had the little one 360ci, but I dreamed of the 460 bored way the heck over to something like 520ci....hard to believe those big V8's were fed by one carb though.

Shadowjack1020 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2006, 03:48:31 PM »

This is going wayyy off-topic, but the 429/460s aren't FE motors, they're called the 385 series. I will now subside.

red_haint · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2006, 05:03:15 AM »

hmmm, either my memory is shot or the book was erronious as to the inclusion of the 429/460 in the FE family. I read what it stands for, but I prefered to think of it elementally, FE=iron! and big iron at that. DOWN WITH THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY!!!

Steve F · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2006, 06:30:04 AM »

Quote from: red_haint on December 29, 2006, 05:03:15 AM

DOWN WITH THE SMALL BLOCK CHEVY!!!

Hmmmm. Them's fightin' words!

TomC · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2006, 07:09:43 AM »

"hmmm, either my memory is shot or the book was erronious as to the inclusion of the 429/460 in the FE family. I read what it stands for, but I prefered to think of it elementally, FE=iron! and big iron at that."

Hi Ford fans
FE stands for Ford, Edsel. They were OK if you had a small boat. But if you want a real boat anchor you need a MEL. MEL stands for Mercury, Edsel, Lincoln. The MEL series came in 383, 430, & 462 sizes. There may have been a 410 version. I am sure that there was an FE 410 and I think there was a MEL version.

"This is going wayyy off-topic, but the 429/460s aren't FE motors, they're called the 385 series. I will now subside."
This is correct.
TomC

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2006, 09:16:04 AM »

Ford motors are overweight / underpowered / and ugly to boot !
Did u see the Mythbusters when they tried to kill a small block chevy, thats right, they couldnt..

Yes I drive a ford truck, but as far as power/old classic cars go - I am GM for life !

dusterdude · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2006, 09:23:06 AM »

352/390 and 428 were fe`s

bill440cars · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2006, 09:35:14 AM »

To each his own, I've driven a few Fords in my time. I just never felt right though. I even almost
(I said "ALMOST") considered buying a 67 Fairlane GT convertible back in 70' (390/4sp/posi), then I
regained my senses and bought a 69' road runner (problem was, I got stupid and traded a 66' Charger
with a 383/4sp/posi in on it). I shoulda bought it out right). Has to do with Hindsight & Foresight.

mlinder · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2006, 10:01:53 AM »

Clevelands were some of the best engines ever. They aren't FE's, but they were inbetween a big and small block. Fantastic head design.

dusterdude · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2006, 11:35:57 AM »

Quote from: mlinder on December 29, 2006, 10:01:53 AM

Clevelands were some of the best engines ever. They aren't FE's, but they were inbetween a big and small block. Fantastic head design.

very good head

mlinder · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2006, 01:27:21 PM »

Quote from: dusterdude on December 29, 2006, 11:35:57 AM

Quote from: mlinder on December 29, 2006, 10:01:53 AM
Clevelands were some of the best engines ever. They aren't FE's, but they were inbetween a big and small block. Fantastic head design.
very good head

Newer SBC's have suspiciously cleveland-like designs

Ford was dumb to first turn them into M's and then discard them altogether.

dusterdude · « **Reply #14 on:** December 29, 2006, 01:34:36 PM »

to be fair to chevrolet(god knows i hate to be),the big block chevy first had the canted valve arrangement,ford improved on it with the cleveland by changing valve angles,when chevy redesigned the small block they went to that style of head also.

TomC · « **Reply #15 on:** December 29, 2006, 01:59:50 PM »

Hi Dusterdude
Adding to the list 332, 360, 406, 410, & 427. Have I missed any FE sizes?
TomC

Quote from: dusterdude on December 29, 2006, 09:23:06 AM

352/390 and 428 were fe`s

ElCheapo · « **Reply #16 on:** December 29, 2006, 03:13:14 PM »

Quote from: ProTeal55 on December 29, 2006, 09:16:04 AM

Ford motors are overweight / underpowered / and ugly to boot !
Did u see the Mythbusters when they tried to kill a small block chevy, thats right, they couldnt..
Yes I drive a ford truck, but as far as power/old classic cars go - I am GM for life !

Ugly HUH?

oldfordguy · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2006, 04:02:24 AM »

Distributor on back of engine = stupid!
'nuff said

Rocking-M · « **Reply #18 on:** December 30, 2006, 04:55:09 AM »

Quote from: oldfordguy on December 30, 2006, 04:02:24 AM

Distributor on back of engine = stupid!
'nuff said

Them's fightin words, Ford's never could keep any oil pressure and they sucked when the foot was down.

Small block chevy is the best motor ever made bar none.

I've run 366/427 truck motors, 454's, 283's, 327's, 350's.

I use as my tool truck a 72 Chevy 4x4 I converted to a ton truck.
It probably has 500k as a farm/work truck. The current small block
has 175k over half of which is pulling a horse trailer.
It's getting a bit weak now and I have a 454 sitting in the shop for it,
but I haven't been able to make myself jerk that 350 out.

bill440cars · « **Reply #19 on:** December 30, 2006, 08:36:13 AM »

My choice would have to be MOPAR big block (low & raised deck, 361-440). Nothing
wrong with the smallblock (273-360), just my preference. I was raised on the idea that
"There's no substitute for cubic inches". I've got nothing against the GM motors, just prefer
MOPAR that's all. I will have to say that I'd take GM over Ford though. I have seen some pretty
good running Fords though, like 289s, 302s, 351s,390s, 406 w/3 deuces and 427s w/ 4 barrel
& 2 4s. 427 SOHC motor came out after Chrysler reintroduced the Hemi as a 426. The small
block Chevy has quite a history and a massive following but, the Hemi came out before it did
and has an undeniable place in Drag Racing history and was hard to beat in Stock Car racing.

Later on, Bill

oldfordguy · « **Reply #20 on:** December 30, 2006, 09:27:53 AM »

I have never had a Ford lose oil pressure, and I've owned (and raced) a lot of them. I also remember back when racing was with factory cars and not special racing vehicles with a brand sticker on them who won most all racing. Even today, when Ford's run faster than the Chevy's in NASCAR they have to change the rules so that they can keep up (restrictor plates, change templates, etc.) Also, you might find it interesting to know that the Cheverolet brothers raced fords (a Ford with one of their heads won the 1920 Indy 500.) And I have a 1929 Model A that is 100% stock that has who knows how many miles on it, but I can go out right now and fire it up and drive it anywhere I want to go. I have nothing against chevy's (I own 4 of them as well, a '48 hot rod truck, a '28 "National" touring car, a stock '59 truck, and a complete piece of junk Beretta.) I've always figured the iron didn't know what name was cast on it, its more about whether the wrench working on it knew what they were doing. However, I find Ford's easier to work on, but Chevy's are somewhat cheaper for parts. Once again, putting the distributor in the back of the engine is stupid. Period. Get over it.

Rocking-M · « **Reply #21 on:** December 30, 2006, 12:01:02 PM »

Hey, I never used a chevy for racing and Nascar ain't racing, that's interstate driving on a round track,
that's the reason it has such a following from the masses.

I've only used Chevy's for working, back when I used a gas truck for log hauling,
you rarely saw a Ford log hauler, except by the road

cb650 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 30, 2006, 12:15:24 PM »

Quote from: 1hotz on December 30, 2006, 09:09:07 AM

my biggest pet peeve now is 32 fords with small block chevy's. I am waiting for someone at a car show to be original and put a ford motor in a ford.

I agree with this. But if you have a 32 anything with a modern v8 and all modern running gear it isnt really a 32 anymore. Especially if its a fiberglass body anyway.
Also for the front rear distributor thing back when I was driving my 52 chevy truck (mostly stock) I went to a NAPA and there was a sweet 54 GMC out back. Well it was a 54 street rod based on a GMC truck. As it is mostly the same thing (gmc owners spare me the #$%*in) I asked about it. It belonged to one of the counter guys so he was happy to talk. Found out it was a street rod but he said as a small block chev had dis in rear it hit on firewall with out moving radiator so he used a 289 ford. Loved it wish I had a pic. He kept the engine ford blue and it looked cool.

Terry

bill440cars · « **Reply #23 on:** December 30, 2006, 12:17:58 PM »

Only problem I ever had, with the 727 Torqueflite, was seals now and then. I never
had to replace the trans or have it rebuilt. I've had that same model of trans in a 66' Charger, 2
different 69' road runners (mine and my wife's, that she had when we got married) & a 74' Royal
Monaco (ex state police car). I put many (& hard) miles on all of these cars and they never failed
me. Biggest problem I had with the motors, was that stupid nylon timing gear and I replaced
them with double roller sets. I never had a ford, never really heard of troublesome things about
them, just never cared for them. I have only had one Chevy, a 58' Impala 2dr hdtp w/ the 348
motor. A lot of folks (even Chevy fans) don't care for the 58' and sure enough don't like the 348.
That's their choice. I liked the 58 very much along with the 348 and wish I still had it.

Later on, Bill

cb650 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2006, 12:30:13 PM »

But bill you like mopars so what do you know

.

Terry

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