Author Topic: Ford Engines (Read 5498 times)

bill440cars · « **Reply #25 on:** December 30, 2006, 01:20:10 PM »

Quote from: cb650 on December 30, 2006, 12:30:13 PM

But bill you like mopars so what do you know .

Terry

You figured that out?

Was I too obvious?

Got to be more careful.

Maybe you said that because, YOU being another liker of the Mopars, can recognize a Mopar fan
when you see one.

Later on, Bill

Rocking-M · « **Reply #26 on:** December 30, 2006, 01:32:06 PM »

My experience with 727 mopar trannys,

Had to rebuild them both, they were in 2 different international scouts i had.

oldfordguy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 30, 2006, 01:57:18 PM »

Quote from: Rocking-M on December 30, 2006, 12:01:02 PM

Hey, I never used a chevy for racing and Nascar ain't racing, that's interstate driving on a round track,
that's the reason it has such a following from the masses.

I've only used Chevy's for working, back when I used a gas truck for log hauling,
you rarely saw a Ford log hauler, except by the road

Rockin', I've got to agree with you about NASCAR, I don't consider it racing either, I'm more of a Formula 1 kind of guy (Cosworth/Fords, hmm, can't think of any chevy's in F1 $:-\$ ) The only thing I was every really passionate about haulin' was a$$

.

I am in the middle of a rebuild on my '48 Chevy truck though. I originally built it in 1882-83, but didn't have the money to do everything to it I wanted. I'm re-building it this time the way I wanted, with the in-line 235 bored .060 over, forged flat top pistons, shaved .030 off the head, have a high-lift solid lifter cam, had the flywheel lightened by 7 lbs, and have a dual carb Offenhauser intake with Clifford Research full length dual headers. Like I said before, I don't think the engine cares what name is cast into it, its the wrencher that really counts. I guess when it comes down to it, I've always been a little partial to Chevy trucks and Ford cars.

bill440cars · « **Reply #28 on:** December 30, 2006, 02:13:20 PM »

Only mechanical problem that I've ever had with a Torqueflite was in my 76' Volare road runner.
Had to replace the torque converter, at about 50 something thousand miles because one ear (that
drives the pump) broke and I had to replace it. And, just for the record, I usually put at least
100,000 miles on about any car that I've had, except my 73' VW "The Thing" and I was I still had
that one too.

oldfordguy,
My running buddy, in high school, had a 54' Chevy with a built 261 trk 6cyl. (don't
remember exactly but, it had a high lift cam, milled head, intake modified to accept a 2 barrel
Rodchester carb, split exhaust manifold that was supposed to be off of an old Blue Flame Corvette
6, trk flywheel w/an 11" clutch, Mallory ignition w/full centrifugal advance and high output coil, full
dual exhaust w/ glasspacks.) and that car was a decent runner with a different sound.
Later on, Bill

Rocking-M · « **Reply #29 on:** December 30, 2006, 03:10:05 PM »

Hey, now your talking, 235 was and is a great engine.
The first truck I had was when I was 16 in 1974 and got a 54 Ford
with a 292 8. It was before I knew what to look for when
something goes haywire in the engine and I suspect it
was a warped head now but I never could get it to run right.
Next truck a 56 Chevy with a 283, I wanted it stock and a buddy had
just been hit in his 57 Truck by a drunk driver. I bought the truck and
put the 235 over in mine. Wish I still had that truck

oldfordguy · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2006, 04:34:39 PM »

Yeah, there is nothing to compare to the sound of a straight 6 with dual headers. I even found a guy that converts modern distributors to fit 235, so I have an HEI ignition to go on the beast as well. I like the vintage stuff, but points on a performance engine can't compare to an electronic ignition.

bill440cars · « **Reply #31 on:** December 30, 2006, 04:52:10 PM »

Does anybody want to heat about the 65' Mustang convertible with a 289 and a 4sp that
got creamed by that 54' Chevy with a built 261 truck engine?

If the answer is no, well it's
too late, cause I've already done it.

Then there was another buddy who had a 64'Chevelle with a smallblock supposedly built
with "Factory Stuff" (I didn't even know the details on it) and I saw him blow away a 69' 390
AMX, a 69' Camaro with a 396 (and a 4sp positrac) and another buddy's 67' Coronet R/T (440
Magnum/727 Torqueflite. I never did find out the details of that motor!! I also never saw or
heard of him getting beat either! Only thing you saw under the hood was a set of headers and a
Holley carb. Major stuff was INSIDE that motor.

Later on, Bill

BobbyR · « **Reply #32 on:** January 01, 2007, 05:55:53 PM »

Quote from: bill440cars on December 30, 2006, 04:52:10 PM

Does anybody want to heat about the 65' Mustang convertible with a 289 and a 4sp that
got creamed by that 54' Chevy with a built 261 truck engine? If the answer is no, well it's
too late, cause I've already done it.

Then there was another buddy who had a 64'Chevelle with a smallblock supposedly built
with "Factory Stuff" (I didn't even know the details on it) and I saw him blow away a 69' 390
AMX, a 69' Camaro with a 396 (and a 4sp positrac) and another buddy's 67' Coronet R/T (440
Magnum/727 Torqueflite. I never did find out the details of that motor!! I also never saw or
heard of him getting beat either! Only thing you saw under the hood was a set of headers and a
Holley carb. Major stuff was INSIDE that motor.

Later on, Bill

I had a 67 Mustang 2+2 Fastback with the Shelby 289. It was rated at 271Hp and she was really quick. As a point of Trivia the legendary Chevy 409 was a truck motor adapted to car use.

ElCheapo · « **Reply #33 on:** January 01, 2007, 06:20:05 PM »

I do drive an old 70 maverick

But Nothing, but nothing beats a Toyota, show me one of the big three that has hit 1M plus miles a few times over.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #34 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:17:40 PM »

Hmmmnnnn, well it sounds like those nasty old Ford engines are just rubbish in the US? Well that's great news for me guys, I just "inherited" a 351C race engine and I need a car to put it in, so I figured one of your "unwanted" Ford cars from the US would be nice?

I wonder if anyone there has a clean straight "unwanted" car I can buy that would be suitable for mating this 300+ BHP "dog" of an engine with? I'm more than happy to pay for the shipping to Oz guys, and I might even get over to the US later this year to check it out in person? (Once it warms up of course, I hate cold weather, brrrr!)

I'm thinking a nice rust free 1960's or 70's 'Stang or Cougar, Tarino, T Bird etc from Texas or California might be "just the ticket" for my engine? I mean, it'd be just criminal to let this engine sit gathering dust for another 20 years? Lemme know guys, this is a serious subject! Cheers, Terry.

mlinder · « **Reply #35 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:42:28 PM »

That 351c can make 500 hp with very little work. Have fun with that thing. Go with the old cougar if you can find one, will be different!
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.geocities.com/classiccougar/68cougar2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.geocities.com/helcarexe/68cougar.html&h=207&w=395&sz=67&tbnid=wAxOm00Ro7JjNM:&tbnh=65&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1968%2Bcougar&start=2&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=2

Love to have that, and yer 351c!

mrbreeze · « **Reply #36 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:47:10 PM »

Sorry Terry....friends don't let friends build Fords!!!. Now you need to take that Cleavland motor and change it into something BOWTIE!!!! (There!!!!....that ought to stir the pot a bit!!!)

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #37 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:49:55 PM »

Oooher, that's it mate, that's what I need, one like that! I've no idea really what that 351C is making, so I thought I'd be conservative, my Ford XY Falcon GS had a fairly stock (but well sorted)4V 351C and was dyno'd at 310 at the rear wheels when I bought it nearly 20 years ago, and this one has been "worked", but I don't want anyone paying out on me for being a little "Optimistic", ha ha! Cheers, Terry.

bill440cars · « **Reply #38 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:51:35 PM »

Bobby, I don't recall knowing that the 409 was originally a truck motor. Either way, I've know of several 409 Cars and they were pretty good movers. If the 409 motor was a truck motor, what about the 348 which I was under the impression was the forerunner to the 409. My 58' Impala had a 348 4 barrel in it. I knew of 3 409 cars in the past: a 61' Impala SS, a 63' Impala SS and a 64' Impala SS. None of them were slow by any means. I'd like to have my old 58' Impala with the 348 again.

Later on, Bill

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #39 on:** January 01, 2007, 07:55:13 PM »

Quote from: mrbreeze on January 01, 2007, 07:47:10 PM

Sorry Terry....friends don't let friends build Fords!!!. Now you need to take that Cleavland motor and change it into something BOWTIE!!!! (There!!!!....that ought to stir the pot a bit!!!)

Ha ha, nah mate, I don't want you thinking that I'm biased one way or another, I'm hoping to buy a 1928 Chev tourer (not a "Hot Rod", a REAL original car) shortly, I can see the beauty in both brands.

As you know I like Harleys, but was riding a beautiful 1944 Indian Chief around yesterday (which was difficult with the mother of all hangovers, with the foot clutch, left hand throttle, right hand ignition advancer, right hand tank shift etc) and loved it too! Er, that doesn't make me "Bi-Sexual" does it?

mrbreeze · « **Reply #40 on:** January 01, 2007, 08:04:51 PM »

No prob Terry! I just thought I would stir up a little conversation between us BIG 3 guys. Can't wait for some Mopar comments. It happens everytime. That Indian sounds like a fun ride to take. I never rode anything that old but I'd bet I'd like to.I'm saving up for my oil cooler again so have one ready for me by the end of January? Thanks Terry and enjoy your summer weather!!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #41 on:** January 01, 2007, 08:17:45 PM »

Quote from: mrbreeze on January 01, 2007, 08:04:51 PM

No prob Terry! I just thought I would stir up a little conversation between us BIG 3 guys. Can't wait for some Mopar comments. It happens everytime. That Indian sounds like a fun ride to take. I never rode anything that old but I'd bet I'd like to.I'm saving up for my oil cooler again so have one ready for me by the end of January? Thanks Terry and enjoy your summer weather!!

No worries Mr B, there's a cooler in my garage with your name on it now, so when I come over for a visit later this year, I'll drop it in to you! I love ALL American cars, I owned a V8 Chrysler "Valiant" with the "Fireball 318" engine, and a Studebaker Lark, and they were magnificent mate!

The Indian is brilliant, my cuz owns it and has just had the engine rebuilt by Jim Parker (Indian Specialist here in Oz) and was a little "reticent" about whether he liked it or not, but when I got back I raved about it's comfort and beautiful low down torque, and really cheered him up I think, you see it's cost him a lot of money, and a couple of his other "friends" suggested that he should sell it? Asssholes! Cheers, Terry.

red_haint · « **Reply #42 on:** January 01, 2007, 08:23:13 PM »

Quote from: oldfordguy on December 30, 2006, 01:57:18 PM

I am in the middle of a rebuild on my '48 Chevy truck though. I originally built it in 1882-83, but didn't have the money to do everything to it I wanted. I'm re-building it this time the way I wanted, with the in-line 235 bored .060 over, forged flat top pistons, shaved .030 off the head, have a high-lift solid lifter cam, had the flywheel lightened by 7 lbs, and have a dual carb Offenhauser intake with Clifford Research full length dual headers. Like I said before, I don't think the engine cares what name is cast into it, its the wrencher that really counts. I guess when it comes down to it, I've always been a little partial to Chevy trucks and Ford cars.

Man, I could rub one out to that!

red_haint · « **Reply #43 on:** January 01, 2007, 08:28:26 PM »

Quote from: mrbreeze on January 01, 2007, 08:04:51 PM

Can't wait for some Mopar comments.

I think you'll be aiting awhile ,they're broke down on the side of the road.

Anyone have anything with the 400M?

bill440cars · « **Reply #44 on:** January 01, 2007, 08:42:08 PM »

Naaa, the guys with the Mopars are true good Samaritans and are giving rides to the OTHER guys with broke down cars. We (Mopar owners) are always there to help out where ever we are needed.

Later on, Bill

kghost · « **Reply #45 on:** January 01, 2007, 09:06:06 PM »

Oddly enough I had a 390 ford in a Galaxie 500XL convertable. Was a 64' model. Built the motor back to stock many moons ago when I was 19 yrs old.

Loved that car. Should never have sold it.

Alas I was bitten by the mustang bug and bought a 68' coupe. First year of the 302. Had factory air and factory powersteering.

That 302 got rebuilt 3 times. Lead foot and drag racing. Last reincarnation broke the engine mounts. but it would run 13's thru the mufflers on goodyear eagles.

Now I just drive the ol' F150 and play with my bikes.

I do have an MG B in the garage if anyone wants to talk about british boat anchor engines......................

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #46 on:** January 01, 2007, 09:18:50 PM »

Quote from: kghost on January 01, 2007, 09:06:06 PM

Oddly enough I had a 390 ford in a Galaxie 500XL convertable. Was a 64' model. Built the motor back to stock many moons ago when I was 19 yrs old.

Loved that car. Should never have sold it.

Alas I was bitten by the mustang bug and bought a 68' coupe. First year of the 302. Had factory air and factory powersteering.

That 302 got rebuilt 3 times. Lead foot and drag racing. Last reincarnation broke the engine mounts. but it would run 13's thru the mufflers on goodyear eagles.

Now I just drive the ol' F150 and play with my bikes.

I do have an MG B in the garage if anyone wants to talk about british boat anchor engines......................

Have you got any nice Ford cars lying around home Tim? I'd really like a nice clean rust free Texas car for my 351C? Cheers, Terry.

kghost · « **Reply #47 on:** January 01, 2007, 09:26:21 PM »

Quote from: Terry in Australia on January 01, 2007, 09:18:50 PM

Quote from: kghost on January 01, 2007, 09:06:06 PM
Oddly enough I had a 390 ford in a Galaxie 500XL convertable. Was a 64' model. Built the motor back to stock many moons ago when I was 19 yrs old.

Loved that car. Should never have sold it.

Alas I was bitten by the mustang bug and bought a 68' coupe. First year of the 302. Had factory air and factory powersteering.

That 302 got rebuilt 3 times. Lead foot and drag racing. Last reincarnation broke the engine mounts. but it would run 13's thru the mufflers on goodyear eagles.

Now I just drive the ol' F150 and play with my bikes.

I do have an MG B in the garage if anyone wants to talk about british boat anchor engines......................

Have you got any nice Ford cars lying around home Tim? I'd really like a nice clean rust free Texas car for my 351C? Cheers, Terry.

No mate but we could sure find you one.

What you gonna do about being on the wrong side?

Personally I'd love one of the 50 - 60's vintage F1's or F100's ya could sure make a cool truck for trips to the tip or picking up the odd bike.

mrbreeze · « **Reply #48 on:** January 01, 2007, 09:49:21 PM »

I 2nd that Kghost. 55-56 F100's rock! I would prefer Chevy running gear but the Ford body rocks. My favorite is a 36 Ford but definitely like the bowtie running gear.

bill440cars · « **Reply #49 on:** January 01, 2007, 10:08:47 PM »

Hey, everyone knows that I'm not a Ford person but, if you could find a 53'-56' pickup, they are pretty cool to work with. Unless you want a car and then I might go with the the early Cougar.

Just trying to help, Bill

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