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costs of quaility paints
« on: December 28, 2006, 08:56:54 PM »
I am about to decide what color to use on my tank and side panels. While I figure I wouldn't have to end up paying for more than a couple pints of paint, I've been told that there is a difference in price for whatever colors I settle on.

I'm not looking to go for wild effects. I just want a basic paint job. No day glo, no metallic etc.

What am I looking at in price for quart (estimates are okay at this point).

Color? I had been thinking yellow, but the more I think about it, I am leaning towards a nice battleship grey..something subtle and still attractive. And I will be priming the tank too, but with a spray paint in the can.

BTW, I will be doing this myself (with a friend's high quality air tank and spray gun) so materials is all I have to worry about.
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 09:02:04 PM »
Paints only as good as your base coat (primer)

Get a good epoxy primer and put it on with the gun.

As far as paint goes...what kind were you thinking Acrylic enamel? polyurethane? basecoat/clearcoat?

They come in all different price ranges.



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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 09:08:12 PM »

Get a good epoxy primer and put it on with the gun.

As far as paint goes...what kind were you thinking Acrylic enamel? polyurethane? basecoat/clearcoat?


Good suggestions. And more questions.

I'm not trying to put together a show winner here. I just want a nice looking bike....one that I wouldn't be ashamed of in the company of other riders. So, I don't want to drop major coin. Just enough to get a long lasting attractive appearance. If that means extra coats of a less expensive paint, that's workable too.
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2006, 04:56:23 AM »
I restore approx 2 bikes a year and will use only Dupont Chromabase urethane. The Honda CB750 I just finished in Boss Maroon cost a littlle over $100. I have a computer matched quart made-up for $64 and then the clear. A quart of Chromabase will give you 1/4 can left over for touch-ups later on.

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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2006, 08:57:30 AM »
like dgfischer did a base/clearcoat with red and black and the required reducers and hardeners from PPG directly and it was &225
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 09:06:47 AM »
For $128, cannot beat dondirtbiker kits. Sure he could mix you a custom color.
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 09:07:22 AM »
I second Gordon.I've put tens of thousands of miles on my DuPont paint jobs with only tiny stone chips after seeing that much road. Guess it depends on how much riding you're planning on doing.
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2006, 09:51:52 AM »
Once again, thanks for the great advice. This message board is priceless.  :)
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2006, 11:38:41 AM »
Nason is Duponts bargain line of polyurethane and I've had good luck with it.
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2006, 01:49:37 PM »
Hey all  I priced some of the urathane with all I needed  (clear, hardner , reducer and a quart of  a GM arrival blue for my 73 750 it was 90 bucks now for just a quart of aqrilic enamal same color 35 just the paint cause I have all the other hardner reducer but anyway  I guess you get what you pay for I allways used  the enamal but am going for the  urathane  and remember differant colors same brand cost differant I know red is on the higher side cause of the pigment they use in it  good luck seven fifty four ever Craig in Maine
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2006, 06:31:56 PM »
It's been about ten years since I worked in an auto paint store, so take this FWIW. As far as individual color prices withing a particular manufacturer's line, purples were the most expensive followed by red tones. Apparently those pigments were more expensive and/or difficult to obtain. Two-stage (base/clear) generally ran more than single-stage.

Call around to a few different auto paint stores. Generally speaking, the employees LOVE to talk paint, especially to someone that's not a professional painter. Try to call more than one store, since most will only carry a couple of brands. We carried PPG and DuPont, and were told to tell customers that other brands didn't measure up. I seriously doubt that that was the case, but them's paint store politics.  ;D

From what the professional painters that came in used to say, the brand of paint really doesn't matter; it's ALL about the prep work, and then just applying the paint correctly.

Also, many auto paint stores will have a "mismatch" rack...inexpensive pints, quarts, and gallons of all types and colors of paint that were mis-mixed by the "toner monkey". I know because I contributed quite a few gallons to this rack when the fumes got to me. Especially when it came time to paint my car and I needed a gallon of metallic teal.  ::) Sometimes it's tough to find enough of the same color to paint a car, but since such a small amount is required for a bike you just might find a color you like for pennies on the dollar.

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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2006, 08:22:25 PM »
Hi Greg:

I've painted a chopper with Omni and it turned out fine. I painted my car with PPG at a cost of 30% or so more than the Omni. I always buy my paint from English Color. They are very nice people who shoot you straight. Sadly, I think that yellow is the most expensive of all the colors

I went to one place in the metro that sold Dupont. They would not sell it to me because I was not a professional, and because of that, I never tried to buy Dupont again. English Color carries Omni, PPG and House of Color (or is it Kolor?) paint. No affiliation; just a happy customer.

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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2006, 09:25:01 PM »
I used to work at a restoration and paint shop.

Listen to what jinxracing has to say its spot on.

My goldwing is painted from the mismatch rack. Total cost about $8 bucks.
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2006, 10:04:55 PM »
I have also heard that body shops also have been known to have 'left over' paint from insurance payment cases. Rather than throw it out (why in hell would they do that?!) they will discount it heavily just to move product.

Good suggestions jnx! Thanks
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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2006, 12:24:09 AM »
Jinxracing & kghost are bang on. Visit your local paint shop and ask for the left overs - I'm sure they are happy to sell that stuff for a song and a dance. Only hickup though you might have to slightly reconsider your already chosen colour/tone. 

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Re: costs of quaility paints
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2006, 09:58:59 AM »
One other thing I forgot to mention in my previous post...

We also used to load up aerosol cans with single-stage paint. Looked like a normal rattle can, just a little bit taller and came with a nozzle that sprayed a very nice fan pattern. When we added a few drops of flex agent lots of the local body shops would use them with great success for plastic bumper repair and other small jobs. Seems like it would be a good solution for painting a bike, especially with all of the plastic and/or fiberglass pieces we seem to end up with. IIRC, cost was $10-$12 per can, and that included the price of the paint.

Assuming that service is still available, it's the route I'll be going. Buying a spray gun with all of the sundry supplies and going to the trouble to try to turn my garage into a spray booth just seems a bit much.
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