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Texas. Gun Deaths. At a Church. Not political.
« on: November 05, 2017, 04:03:31 PM »
20 plus dead, more injured. High-capacity magazine. Assault-style weapon. Fully geared up. This is not a political post.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 04:13:48 PM »
Is that why it’s gone now? Lame.

Anyway, the whole thing is a disaster. Nothing will stop things like this. I am afraid it’s just part of the world now. I’ve never known a time that hasn’t had some sort of mass shooting and I’m only in my 30s. Hug your loved ones and try to keep them safe, that’s all anyone can do.


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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 04:23:53 PM »
Sad sad sad.  Kids, women and men killed.  It’s a sad world that we now live in.


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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 04:52:59 PM »
Another 26 innocent people killed in a church in Texas. I hope none of our members, or their families or friends were caught up in this tragedy. Cheers, Terry.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM »
I wish this weren’t political.  Unfortunately occupy democrats have already unleashed their white and yellow block text rhetoric upon the internet.
Word on the streets is the shootist was a 26-year-old previously court-martialed usaf e1.
Something wasn’t right with the guy. 
But he messed with texas and texas messed right back.  A bystander stripped him of his weapon and chased him down the street.  Police won’t confirm who fired the fatal shot at the suspect.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 05:02:15 PM »
Very sad indeed.


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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 05:59:45 PM »
Not surprised or shocked anymore. Warm condolences to all the peoples...
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 06:44:35 PM »
It is always very sad when innocent people are murdered. It is the ultimate theft!
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 11:20:07 PM »
It is always very sad when innocent people are murdered. It is the ultimate theft!

Especially children . . . 

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 02:58:57 AM »
I wish this weren’t political.  Unfortunately occupy democrats have already unleashed their white and yellow block text rhetoric upon the internet.
Word on the streets is the shootist was a 26-year-old previously court-martialed usaf e1.
Something wasn’t right with the guy. 
But he messed with texas and texas messed right back.  A bystander stripped him of his weapon and chased him down the street.  Police won’t confirm who fired the fatal shot at the suspect.

Yes cow. Apparently civilians acted as hero’s here. That gives me hope for our people.


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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 01:04:17 PM »
Breaking News;

The shootist was pissed at his mother-in-law.  Who was a member of the congregation at that church.  Police found threatening messages on the womans phone.


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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 05:38:03 AM »
The actions of those two guys is what the American spirit is all about. Taking care of your own and taking action if you can in any number of ways. It is not universal, but it still exists. During 9/11 you had people swarm to ground zero to make sandwiches and pass out water for the Fire and Police personnel while it was still burning.

You see the same helping behavior in places that have had earthquakes recently. It is the best of human nature.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 05:39:04 AM »
Grew up not far from there in Victoria.. Media is definitely going high and right with this and some of the others shootings blaming the firearms instead of the truly broken people.. hell, cowards.. that do this sort of thing..  Unfortunately, there is no fix for this sort of thing, nothing effective anyway..   

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 02:02:05 PM »
The sad thing is that the Air Force screwed the pooch.  When he was courtmartialed for domestic violence, he should have been flagged so he could not pass a background check. 
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2017, 02:23:26 PM »
This is first and foremost another tragedy, and terrible for the victims and those involved.

It's not a sad world we live in -- it's a sad USA (cue the "love it or leave it" crowd, but tell me that this, Las Vegas, etc., aren't sad). These kinds of mass shootings occur in one country in the developed world on a regular and almost predictable basis, and there are a ton of people who want to throw up their arms and say "this is just reality, too bad we can't do anything about it, 2nd amendment, blah blah blah"  -- Ted Cruz's quote that we can't do anything about it "because people will just use the weaponry that is available to them" is the argument made by those who favor sensible restrictions on firearms. Some people will call those arguing for sensible restrictions on firearms hypocrites because they didn't call for sensible restrictions on renting trucks -- although restrictions do exist, and the use of vehicles to commit mass atrocities don't occur with regularity. Others demonize "liberal media" for suggesting that there is a way to sensibly restrict arms sales. The US president portrays it as a mental health issue months after lessening restrictions on the mentally ill being able to purchase firearms.  Few people want to acknowledge a gun industry backed by the NRA that almost seems to encourage this. People want to lionize the person who shot back as an example of a "good guy with a gun," but ignore that the killing was already done by the time that happened (others still want to see more guns in churches). Others will say that "the liberals" want to take all of our guns away, when nobody arguing for sensible gun laws is making any such argument. 

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2017, 02:34:42 PM »
You really think the NRA "almost encourages this"?????  You used the "M" word, not me.

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2017, 02:42:37 PM »
Do people even know that the NRA is a public membership spanning all 50 states and generations? 
They do more than lobby politics.  People who blame the NRA for these things are simply looking for a scapegoat and can’t use their brain to present an ACTUAL solution.

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2017, 04:13:28 PM »
"almost seems to encourage" -- I know you guys can read (even though I know I'm a complete moron).

https://www.facebook.com/NRA/videos/1605896562755373/

As well as opposing any sort of legislation that may in any way restrict what they view as any infringement upon a near-total and unimpeded "right" to possess any kind of weapon, regardless of mental capacity, and with no regulations on magazines.

I'll ask this once again, because no 2nd amendment crusader has ever answered it here: Aside from the whole single-shot, long time to reload guns that were available when it was written, to what well regulated militia do gun owners here belong to?   

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2017, 07:02:04 PM »
Does the VFW count as a militia group?

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2017, 07:37:27 PM »
Has nothing to do with gun laws. If a person is sick enough to just kill innocent people they will steal a gun and do it. Do you really think you can keep firearms out of the hands of outlaws. I️ say arm the homeless


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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2017, 08:32:21 PM »
Has nothing to do with gun laws. If a person is sick enough to just kill innocent people they will steal a gun and do it. Do you really think you can keep firearms out of the hands of outlaws. I️ say arm the homeless

Right, totally. Because mentally ill people don't exist in Canada, Australia (any more?), Japan, or any other developed country where mass shootings don't occur. Perhaps they could tell us how they cured mental illness and stopped all of the mass shootings they had? Australia seems to have done a pretty good job with their mentally ill after 1996 -- they haven't had a mass shooting since! Unless it's American exceptionalism -- the US must simply have a special kind of mental illness!

And... right, totally. Why make something illegal, such as the seriously mentally ill having access to firearms, unless that law is going to be 100% effective? I say we take the same approach to other things that are currently illegal but not 100% effective, and legalize heroin and drunk driving (again). Those laws clearly don't work 100% of the time -- people get caught with heroin every day, people overdose and die every day, people get caught driving drunk every day, people kill other people and themselves driving drunk every day -- so why have them?

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2017, 02:50:01 AM »
Well, let's see.....there are other means of mass killings, in case you forgot, there's Arson, Blunt instrument, Vehicular, Stabbings, Poisoning and the list goes on and on.

Guns are an easy target for those that seem to get their facts from the left.

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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2017, 06:10:13 AM »
None of those countries have the sheer saturation of firearms..  And yeah, the Air Force dropped the ball but it would have made zero difference..  I live on a island, I could have a firearm from a complete stranger within an hour.. or steal one in a half hour..