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« on: November 06, 2017, 09:10:42 PM »
so i've been riding for about a year.  i took and passed my motorcycle course this summer riding illegally for many months before.  my confidence on the bike has become very solid.  i ride with the thought that other drivers are looking to kill me but i still want to ride this bike at or over 100 mph because that's a nice round number.  other than running 4th gear as far as i can at 4 in the morning what other advice can you all share?  750k6
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 09:24:47 PM »
 Your best riding gear. Good tires, good chain tightened properly, good gas, avoid deer.  Stay low, be careful. Check in later so we won't worry.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 09:31:20 PM »
Steer clear of places animals can pop out of nowhere. At 100 even a rabbit ir possum could put you down.

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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 09:36:51 PM »
836 + ported head + cam= +80rwhp will make 100mph as a nice cruising speed and good base for further acceleration. Steering damper has been a big help on my bike keeping it stable.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 10:31:05 PM »
100 mph + get a 1000 cc sport bike ...been there done that......these vintage bikes are not made safe for that speed ....tires/spoke wheels agh
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 10:45:07 PM »
Can I take out a insurance policy  ;D

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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 04:50:18 AM »
 If your going to do it take your chances in the daylight and keep a very firm grip on the handlebars in case you start getting a head shake in the front. Allow yourself plenty of room to slow down slowly if that begins to happen. I ran a GT750 up to around 105 + once and when slowing down things got real scary as it was shaking and weaving around bad. Might have left a little stain on the seat  :o Think the batwing fairing messed things up.
   My friend on his Harley and I were 'running it up' once and when we were around 90 or so he looked over at me and the wind promptly ripped his face shield off  ;D ;D We turned around and found it alongside the road with a minor battle scar.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 04:55:23 AM »
If your going to do it take your chances in the daylight and keep a very firm grip on the handlebars in case you start getting a head shake in the front. Allow yourself plenty of room to slow down slowly if that begins to happen.
   My friend on his Harley and I were 'running it up' once and when we were around 90 or so he looked over at me and the wind promptly ripped his face shield off  ;D ;D We turned around and found it alongside the road with a minor battle scar.

I did that once, too. Only around 75MPH. Never found it... :(
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 05:15:32 AM »
100mph should be easy on a 750, even my small 400 will run over 110mph on GPS.

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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2017, 05:22:36 AM »
Best advice I can give is:  When your confidence in your ability becomes solid, it is the time to be extra careful because it is also the time you can become overconfident and not realize it. 

Ask yourself this question:  Do I need to go 100 mph?  You are on a 40+ year old bike.  Common sense and judgment are a big factor in safe riding.  That is on top of experience.

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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2017, 05:31:09 AM »
Two shots of Jameson, two fingers on the levers and push through any speed wobble with the palms of your hands.

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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 05:35:49 AM »
Why would a stock CB750 not do 100mph?

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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 05:38:24 AM »
Why don't you sign up for a track day? Would be fun and soooooo much safer!
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 05:45:02 AM »
Before you do this evaluate your priorities in life in case you go down. Family, friends, etc. Is it worth it. I hear you about wanting to do over 100. I did 115 on my K7 back in my foolish youth days on a country road. It was stupid, but that is what youth gives you...you live in the moment...fearless. I do agree that these bikes based on their age really are no longer meant for that kind of riding, but all we can do hear is help you think of all your options. Remember, confidence can be the killer.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 05:45:50 AM »
For a while there back around 1999 I had a mostly interstate commute, actually basically the same commute I have now, but instead of doing it in 45 minutes like I am now I was doing it in 30, and I would get over 110 quite regularly and topped out at 115, so I've never seen the 120 my bike was theoretically once capable of. Weaving in and out of traffic, and passing cars like they were standing still in 65mph zone. I had just put on the fairing, and that made holding on over 100 MUCH easier, and when you do the same drive day after day on wide open interstate those 100+ speeds started feeling not so fast.

Now I knew even at the time I was being stupid. If I got pulled over I would have been arrested and fined something I couldn't possibly afford to pay. If I got surprised by a deer, or cut off unexpectedly by a car, or any number of other little things went wrong, getting arrested would seem like a party by comparison, but the bike handled it easily, and I kept doing it anyway.

Nowadays I'm a lot more intimately aware of my own mortality, and maybe I feel like I've got more to live for, so I keep it under 90 most of the time, but on a good straight I might still crack open the throttle and push it up past the Ton just because I can.

A couple of things to be careful of though: 4 am is a GREAT time to meet deer, so probably not the best time to try to crack 100. You don't need to rev it in 4th to get over 100 on a CB750. As long as you've got lots of space. Rolling on in 5th at 80mph works fine and draws less attention.

Most of the roads are curvy here in Vermont, so except on rare long straights it's tough to find the space to do it here in VT except on the Interstate. We're fortunate, Interstate traffic is not too dense. I'm not sure what the roads are like where you are, but I'd pick one that's both adequately flat and straight so you've got plenty of line of sight, and not overly patrolled by the popo. Good luck, and be safe!
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2017, 05:57:21 AM »
 Few years ago, some 20 something guy was riding his crotch rocket down the interstate,estimated over 110, 120. They found the bike approximately 100 yds. up ahead of his body...they figured he was crouching down hugging his tank and then sat up real quick to slow down, so he blew himself off the bike....
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2017, 06:11:09 AM »
Best advice I can give is:  When your confidence in your ability becomes solid, it is the time to be extra careful because it is also the time you can become overconfident and not realize it. 

Ask yourself this question:  Do I need to go 100 mph?  You are on a 40+ year old bike.  Common sense and judgment are a big factor in safe riding.  That is on top of experience.

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This is a VERY good point. My one "at speed" crash happened about a year and a half after I'd gotten my bike. I had swapped the bars for lower ones a month or so before, and found the new position confidence inspiring. Was out on a ride with my girlfriend on back. On a road that had just recently turned from dirt to pavement. I opened it up heading into an S curve, and found some gravel in the middle of the pavement. It was then that I had the unique experience of watching the world spin around and around as I saw sparks shower out from under under my motorcycle in front of me, and my passenger tumble down the road behind me. Next I got to enjoy scrubbing gravel from my knee with a loofah and limping for a month. All in all I got off easy. I had to replace the points cover and a pair of gloves, and my knee skin eventually grew back, and the girl not only didn't leave me, she eventually married me. Then again she eventually divorced me as well.

Of all the elements that contributed to that accident, over confidence was the main one. But hitting the pavement at 50 could have ended much differently, and hitting it at 100 almost certainly would.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2017, 06:13:13 AM »
Few years ago, some 20 something guy was riding his crotch rocket down the interstate,estimated over 110, 120. They found the bike approximately 100 yds. up ahead of his body...they figured he was crouching down hugging his tank and then sat up real quick to slow down, so he blew himself off the bike....
Just sayin...
I did get my 71 450 up to 95 back in the day....one time....
That’s the completely wrong assumption as to why he was no longer on the bike.  ::)

Evinrude - DON’T ride 100mph on public roads. Simple as that. Modern or vintage bike, doesn’t matter. Roads are not designed with the horizontal or vertical sight distance to safely pilot a bike (or car) at those speeds. I get the goal, but instead of public roads, do track days, or take Advanced Rider courses and really learn how to ride a bike. Even training courses held on tracks are heaps more fun and far better learning environments than public roads.

A fall at 20mph will kill you. At a minimum, you’ll be facing ortho surgeries, recovery times, and busted bikes. At 100mph, it becomes a guaranteed terminal event. Is it really that important to say you broke the Ton on a bike to risk your life, your family’s well-being and financial security? There’s nothing worth that risk.
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2017, 06:29:02 AM »
100mph isnt that fast guys.....

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2017, 06:34:26 AM »
100mph isnt that fast guys.....
On proper roads, you’re right. On public roads, it’s often 170% of the speed limit and a danger to everyone else around you. Who among us deserves the right to endanger others so wantonly? Want to risk your life, fine by me. Risk mine, and I’ll put you in the ditch personally as a Public Service.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2017, 06:35:10 AM »
100mph isnt that fast guys.....


+1...just do it!   I would regularly do 125 on my Kaw 1000 chasing my brother on his Yamaha 1100 doing 130mph.

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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2017, 06:36:10 AM »
100mph isnt that fast guys.....

I mean it CAN be. It's not too fast for the bike, but it's WAY too fast to come off the bike.

I did a track day once. Actually it was racing school. That made me feel slow. I have no idea how fast I went, because I was an a borrowed EX500 race bike with no speedo, but I do know I didn't go as fast as the other guys ;)
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2017, 06:38:05 AM »
perhaps i need to slow my roll here.  probably a foolish idea.  track day sounds like a great idea for this. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2017, 06:48:05 AM »
perhaps i need to slow my roll here.  probably a foolish idea.  track day sounds like a great idea for this.

Yeah 100 is just a number. You'll probably have more fun and stay safer if you focus more on what "feels" fast than on an arbitrary number. I'm having more fun on my daily commute now than I was back when I was doing it at crazy speeds. Largely because I'm enjoying the ride rather than seeing how fast I can do it, and I don't have to be hyper vigilant the whole time looking for police, wildlife, and unpredictable drivers.
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Re: breaking 100 mph
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2017, 07:00:37 AM »
Speed limit on 87 (northway around here) is 65mph.

People REGULARLY cruise at 75-80mph.
A quick blast to 100mph is not hard.
Heck you could do it have have zero people on the road even know you did it....