Topic: longer swingarm Q?

[Don R]

 For anyone that has ridden one, what is the actual effect of a 2" longer swingarm on handling? I'd assume they turn in a longer radius and roll in to the turn differently. Just wondering.

[Sam Green Racing]

Mine didn't feel much different Don but I didn't do any riding on the road.

Riding around the pits at drag events was quite nice considering the rear end was ridged. 

[gschuld]

Rob( Voxonda) PREFERS a longer than stock swingarm for his cb750 based road racer.  BUT, he combines this with raising the rear end with 14.5” shocks, using smaller diameter 18” wheel/tire front and uses 45mm offset trees to compliment it.  I believe the swingarm he made was around 1.5” over stock.

Putting a 2” over swingarm on an otherwise stock geometry bike, sorry no help there.

George

[754]

77/78 has 1.5 or 1.25 inch longer and wider maybe.. Cb 500 four is longer.
 These are commonly run,
Should be fine on the street.. I ran a 6 over on street a bit long, I think 4.5 us more to my liking..

[dragracer]

I agree with Frank on 4" being the threshold. You probably won't feel any difference in handling with a 2 over arm in my experience. Wilbur has a 2" over arm on his k model if I remember right. Maybe he can chime in.

[754]

 A big problem here these days are stunting fines, they want to take your bike away.
 With a 6 over arm I can leave as hard as I want and rarely lift the wheel.  With a 4 or 4.5 over  it might be a bit harder.
But come off a light hard beside say a sportbike, and they wheelie.. I know who will get the ticket.
Honest officer, I was just riding normal, not sure what that jackass beside me was doing..

[Don R]

 OK thanks.

[seanbarney41]

I disagree with those who say you won't feel the difference.  I can feel the difference in handling in as small of a change as putting a new chain on so that the back wheel is returned to the front of the adjusters.  Whether this change in handling will prevent you from enjoying the ride or not is the real question.  You will just have to understand that there WILL be a change in handling and adapt and ride accordingly.

[Don R]

 I can tell a huge difference between a K0 and an F1, the F feels much bigger to me, I assume due to changes in the front end and wheelbase. I don't mind it at all but was wondering seeing so many KZ's with longer swingarms and a few cb's also, what the handling difference is. I'm not a canyon carver but I have to admit, I really love to get my lean on when I'm riding my gl1000. It just turns in so neatly and powers back up.
 I've ridden CB's with 16" rear tires, lowering blocks and a windjammer back in the day. The worst handling thing I ever rode was that same k3 with a Goodyear on the back and a Continental on the front, omg it was awful. I do like to go long on a chain, so far I haven't had to remove a link but I have too many bikes to wear one out. lol.

 Anyway I'm putting a gs1100e swinger on a kz1000. Maybe I'll learn if the gs swinger works well on a cb750 frame also.