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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2018, 03:46:49 AM »
I think its due to the change in the collector design. Welding the 4 long, curved pipes to the collector, versus 4 short straighter pipes is much more cumbersome. And the reality of the weld at the mid-pipe is not effect, other than visual. I could be wrong on why the change though...
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2018, 09:33:53 AM »
According to Chris, there is a power advantage to the stepped design. I know nothing about exhaust and header science so Idk if he's right or not. It's his business, so I'll assume he knows what he's doing. It doesn't look as good, but it doesn't really bother me either. Not yet, anyways. So I don't plan on eating $100 worth of shipping costs by sending it back and buying something else. I can always get a different one later if I change my mind. Exhausts are a pretty easy thing to change

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2018, 10:37:58 AM »
He def knows his stuff, just wondering why he changed em all of a sudden.  The CB900 exhaust he currently has on eBay has the weld down low close to the collecter, more pleasing to the eye.  I'm no exhaust guru either but why has no one else ever done it if it is a power advantage?  Just thoughts in my head, glad it doesn't bother you. 
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2018, 10:42:35 AM »
He def knows his stuff, just wondering why he changed em all of a sudden.  The CB900 exhaust he currently has on eBay has the weld down low close to the collecter, more pleasing to the eye.  I'm no exhaust guru either but why has no one else ever done it if it is a power advantage?  Just thoughts in my head, glad it doesn't bother you.

I did think it was interesting that I hadn't seen that done on any of his other exhausts. He said he's been doing his 550 exhausts that way for 2 years. Idk. Once I have it on the bike instead of sitting in a box, maybe I'll change my mind

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2018, 05:37:14 PM »
So I'm Chris ,You can send it back for a full refund as i said in the email this morning .
I changed the pipe back about 18mths-2yrs ,The reason is function .Since there is Devillic (china)  or hindle are around  nowadays I changed up the 4-1 to include a stepped header so this is the best performing pipe for a 500-550.The stepped header is flared and then seam welded (most exhaust companys just slide one into the other ) .So I have to bend two sets of headers to make one .
The collector is larger also and this is due to most guys have pod filters or a set of Cr's so its all about getting (o2) Air in ,Air used and exhaust out .
Yoshimura back in the day started stepped headers only on there factory bikes,Its all about having a smaller dia header pipe for torque (slight back pressure , helps  encourage scavenging  )  and the stepped (larger dia) for flow once your on the throttle/gas .The larger collector helps merge those gasses and sends them down the pipe .Thats the basic version .
I still make these maybe 5-10 a year,I still use American stainless and components so the cost to make these now is well over what I sell them for .I really don't have time nowadays as i m building my own production bike for the past 8mths & customer bikes  but I still like building the odd pipe for #$%* and giggles.
I will be making a new cb550/750 pipe in the next 2 mths ,last version ever  and will be a true merge collector
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2018, 07:25:27 AM »
I just mounted the same exhaust on my 550. If you want to hear how it sounds before mounting yours, let me know and I'll get you a video.

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2018, 04:08:45 PM »
Ive decided to part this project out. A buddy of mine has a bike very high on my want list. I want it more than a custom cb550, so ive got to get rid of this.

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2018, 04:52:49 PM »
What bike are you getting, Dave?
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2018, 04:57:19 PM »
Ducati 916. Ive lusted for one for a while

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2018, 10:04:52 PM »
Ducati 916. Ive lusted for one for a while

I cannot blame you.  What a beautiful bike.
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2018, 11:27:29 PM »
Ducati 916. Ive lusted for one for a while

I cannot blame you.  What a beautiful bike.

For sure, if i had a 916 and an rc30, i would never need another bike

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2018, 10:38:01 AM »
Ducati 916. Ive lusted for one for a while

I cannot blame you.  What a beautiful bike.

For sure, if i had a 916 and an rc30, i would never need another bike

Well said.  Plus maybe something like a Multistrada or BMW R1200GS for long rides.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2018, 10:38:37 AM »
Ducati 916. Ive lusted for one for a while

I cannot blame you.  What a beautiful bike.

For sure, if i had a 916 and an rc30, i would never need another bike

Well said.  Plus maybe something like a Multistrada or BMW R1200GS for long rides.

And then a light single for dirt!
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2018, 11:13:16 AM »
And maybe a vintage twin and inline 4 to be well rounded

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2018, 11:14:28 AM »
And maybe a vintage twin and inline 4 to be well rounded

Probably need a 2 stroke as well

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2018, 03:33:09 PM »
And maybe a vintage twin and inline 4 to be well rounded

Probably need a 2 stroke as well

Yeah, an H2 would fit that bill.    Hope you get the Duc, Dave.  It is on my list too...
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2018, 02:48:06 PM »
After doing more research, i decided to pass on the 916. I still want one some day, but i want the sps model and i cant afford that right now. So instead i bought this 2002 998. I have to wait a week for delivery which sucks, but im very excited about it. Its mostly stock, but with some very nice and expensive upgrades.




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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2018, 08:45:29 AM »
After doing more research, i decided to pass on the 916. I still want one some day, but i want the sps model and i cant afford that right now. So instead i bought this 2002 998. I have to wait a week for delivery which sucks, but im very excited about it. Its mostly stock, but with some very nice and expensive upgrades.



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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2018, 08:50:25 AM »
It doesnt have quite the beauty of a 916, but very close

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2018, 09:52:19 AM »
It doesnt have quite the beauty of a 916, but very close

You're right.  It's horrible.  Let me remove it from your sight immediately and take it home to my hovel. 
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2018, 04:58:32 PM »
Congrats Dave...she's a beaut.  I would prolly hurt myself on that...ride smart.
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Re: Cb550 resto mod
« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2018, 05:28:06 PM »
Congrats Dave...she's a beaut.  I would prolly hurt myself on that...ride smart.

Thanks, i will