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Offline Badger

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Oil cooler for 350F?
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:56:47 AM »
Hello:

 I was thinking of putting an oil cooler on my 350F as it will see a lot of in town driving next season.  What are your thoughts on this?  So far I have only found old, beat up units at an insane price of >$400USD!!! 

At that price it is, of course, a no-go.  An any rate, what gives with such high prices? Last one I bought was for a 1982 750C and was only about $150USD.
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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 11:38:18 AM »
Dude, don't you live in the u.p.?  Unless you plan on revving the crap out of your bike at a standstill on the hottest day for the last ten years, I don't think you will need one.  In fact, many agree that one would actually prevent the bike from warming up properly.  City riding?, There are cities in the u.p. now!?   No offense intended, the u.p. is beautifully deserted.
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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 12:13:03 PM »
It's an air cooled motor.
It is cooled by the outside surface area transferring heat into the air moving past it.  This is an air exchange process.
Oil coolers work on the exact same principle.  No air exchange, no cooling.

Further, an oil cooler is NOT a substitute for the motor's primary cooling device. It is to help the oil survive high pressures in the crank/rod journals (under high power loadings) which raise oil heat levels.  Any cooling effect on the motor is, at best, a tertiary contribution.  An oil cooler's surface area compared to the motor's 'as built' is almost laughable.

Honda sized the engine's cooling apparatus for the power density of the engine, as over-cooling it as harmful as under-cooling.  What have you changed to make it different?

If you are doing low or no speeds to make air move past the motor, you need an air moving fan to force air past the engine's incorporated cooling fins/outside surface.

If I were to operate my SOHC4 in a slow moving parade in hot weather, I'd mount a couple of computer fans to force air over the motor.

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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2018, 12:27:10 PM »
+ don't waste your time or money. 

I live in friggen hot Texas and only my "racer" has an oiler cooler, and just because it came with one. 
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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2018, 09:51:27 AM »
it is decided then, no oil cooler, thanks to all for the great advice as usual
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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 03:22:08 PM »
Are you riding this month?  Might need a oil heater!
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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 05:25:34 PM »
A little past due and preaching to the choir (and converted), but I had a 350F in Phoenix for 20 years. Never needed an oil cooler, and I rode during the summer (albeit not too much in stop and go).

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Re: Oil cooler for 350F?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 06:27:27 AM »
I have also had thoughts of an oil cooler to my CB750. But with a thermostate that will not connect the cooler until the oil is hot, like 110-120C.
Why cause cold oil problem? Oil must reach over 100C to make sure that the condension water will vaporise.
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