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Offline Willh1983uk

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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2018, 12:45:29 PM »
It does look like it, I’ve not seen one of those before.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2018, 01:47:08 PM »
It's a little reminiscent of the RS750 flat tracker.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2018, 02:03:47 PM »
basic honda race livery of the day
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2018, 10:24:46 AM »
basic honda race livery of the day

Sean, do you know when Honda changed from red/silver/yellow (59-late 60s) and changed to red/white/blue (like the Bubba Shobert flat tracker)?
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2018, 07:05:46 PM »
basic honda race livery of the day

Sean, do you know when Honda changed from red/silver/yellow (59-late 60s) and changed to red/white/blue (like the Bubba Shobert flat tracker)?
not exactly...recently someone posted this, so earliest documented here would be about 1976?
world.honda.com/EWC/invincible/
certainly were fully rocking the red white and blue by the time they jumped into AMA superbike with Freddy Spencer and the V4's in the early 80's

I dunno what year/s Bubba rode that crazy 4 cyl. flat tracker.  I do know it was not long before HD and AMA said nope in the rules.

Don't forget that there was relatively little Honda factory supported effort throughout most of the seventies.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2018, 01:50:59 PM »
I heard that the bike that was the predecessor to the RS750 was a CX500 with the heads mounted 90 degrees so they resembled a conventional narrow v-twin.

Here's the Shobert RS750 getting loose.

10011651_653971681306739_4576906963973730960_o_zpsv3q9qy7x by Donald Leonhardt, on Flickr
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2018, 02:15:55 PM »
oh right right...was thinking Shobert was the one who flat tracked a cb750 and when he had some success, got 4 cylinders promptly banned
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2018, 10:58:38 AM »
Another quiet one tonight. Sorting through old parts that we got with the bike and building a stand for the engine. Hopefully this week we’ll have all the parts that came off the bike sorted and the brake calipers and bracketery ready for sandblasting. Also aiming to get the sump off and have a look around inside.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2018, 12:59:00 PM »
... brake calipers and bracketery ready for sandblasting.

Vapor blasting would be the way to go with these.  That is my plan...
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2018, 01:04:53 PM »
What’s vapour blasting?
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2018, 03:24:07 PM »
Happy with that, I’ll see if there’s anywhere local to me where I can get it done.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2018, 12:37:07 PM »
Had a real good evening on the bike, stripped the carbs down and put them all in de greaser to hopefully soak off all the crap that’s in them also removed all the surface rust from the muffler. Took the sump off and found the oil pump strainer blocked up with detritus. When we got the bike the kick start would not return once we tried kicking the bike up, we tried the kickstart today whilst the engine is stripped down and all was fine. I think it was the clutch that was stopping it returning due to it being all stuck together.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2018, 10:20:52 AM »
Continied the strip down today. There isn’t a B on the end of the camshaft. All engine covers that are taken off are being stripped so they’re ready to go to thee painters as and when. Going to try and get the head off next week :)
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2018, 10:28:52 AM »
77 F2 General Export set up for racing?

I'm interested in what has been done under that valve cover. Yoshimura Daytona cam perhaps? That would be an easy look and see. Perhaps it has a "B" stamped in the end of the cam? Going a little further what the head contains? Porting to go along with the larger valves? A measurement of the holes in the cylinders and what the top of the pistons look like.

Intriguing  :o
there’s no B on the cam shaft that is fitted. We did get a used one with the bike which does have a B stamped on the end.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2018, 10:52:06 AM »
Slotted cam chain sprocket? Can't tell much from those pictures. The "B" cam may be a Yoshimura Daytona cam. Much stronger than stock.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2018, 01:20:28 PM »
Another night on the bike stripping out the cam shaft and taking the cylinder head off, we’re not going to strip the engine down any further. The rebuild will begin once funds permit.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2018, 01:22:25 PM »
More pics.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2018, 01:24:45 PM »
What size are those pistons?

No o-rings in those 2 outside blank spots where the oil orifice jets are lined up?

Cam looks big.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2018, 01:26:12 PM »
I’ll measure them tomorrow evening.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2018, 12:35:16 PM »
Just an hour with the bike tonight, measured the pistons and as far as I can make out they are 63mm in diameter. I’ve also petrol tested the valve seats and cleaned the excess head gasket off of the top of the cylinders. Regarding the ‘o’ seals, do you mean the blank spots circled in the photo?  All in all a steady night.
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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2018, 01:17:01 PM »
Yes, that is what I was referring to. The parts manual shows 4 of them (5.8 x 1.9). I only saw 2 on your head and wasn't sure if it in fact had all 4 when you took it apart.

The pistons do look bigger but 63mm is an odd size for a 750. 64mm/812 is common as is 65mm/836.
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2018, 01:22:07 PM »
Yes, that is what I was referring to. The parts manual shows 4 of them (5.8 x 1.9). I only saw 2 on your head and wasn't sure if it in fact had all 4 when you took it apart.

The pistons do look bigger but 63mm is an odd size for a 750. 64mm/812 is common as is 65mm/836.

I measured them while they were in place so there is more than likely an error in my measurement. I’ll have to look under the cam carriers to see if there are any ‘o’ seals stuck to it. The previous owner did have a cam/associated can gear overhaul.
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Re: My first protect, Honda CB750G revival.
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2020, 04:56:12 AM »
After a substantial amount of time spent on the bike I've gotten back round to updating my project. Along with a rebuilt engine and powder coated wheels and frame what started out as a small project to keep busy has turned into a labour of love and is now taking up all of my spare cash.
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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2020, 11:23:27 AM »
That looks like an original Superbrace fork brace on the front end.  Those are hard to come by.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold