Author Topic: JIS recommendations (Read 4264 times)

evinrude7 · « **on:** January 29, 2018, 03:41:41 PM »

i'd like to buy a set of JIS screw drivers and driver bits (1/4"). any recommendations and what the sizes used on the sohc bikes are? do they size them like phillips? 1, 2 ,3 and what not.

also, more specifically what size for the trans case cover as i have to replace the gasket there.

Yamahawk · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2018, 03:51:20 PM »

I am looking also, here is a set on eBay that has a ball driver grip. And it does seem like they size them the same.
Charlie
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ball-Grip-Screwdrivers-Set-Metric-Japanese-Motorcycle-Drivers-JIS-standard/282593919243?hash=item41cbe9010b:g:zHsAAOSwSj1Zf475

evinrude7 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2018, 03:57:02 PM »

nice find. my initial google search brought up Vessel. i'd also like to get some 1/4" drive JIS bits for a low power impact driver i have.

Stev-o · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:03:26 PM »

Get the Vessel, trust me. I dont like the ones with interchangeable bits.
This one can also be used like an impact...

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-Megadora-Impacta-P2x150-Screwdriver/dp/B003BGZ9CO

And here's the #3...

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-125943-P3x150-Impacta-Screwdriver/dp/B003BGTTSE/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1517270523&sr=1-2&keywords=jis+%233

I dont think the #1 is necessary.

kmb69 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:06:49 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on January 29, 2018, 04:03:26 PM

Get the Vessel, trust me. I dont like the ones with interchangeable bits.
This one can also be used like an impact...

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-Megadora-Impacta-P2x150-Screwdriver/dp/B003BGZ9CO

And here's the #3...

https://www.amazon.com/Vessel-125943-P3x150-Impacta-Screwdriver/dp/B003BGTTSE/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1517270523&sr=1-2&keywords=jis+%233

I dont think the #1 is necessary.

+1 on the Vessel Impactas. They are THE BEST. The Vessel interchangeable tip impact drivers are also THE BEST.

Yamahawk · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:17:31 PM »

That's cool! An impact driver and screwdriver in one! I lost my #2 phillips impact bit that I have used forever, so I am in the need of a new impact set. This might be a good compromise.
Charlie

Yamahawk · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:21:03 PM »

Set on eBay for all three, a little but pricey but free shipping.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vessel-Megadora-980-Impacta-P2x100-P2x150-P3x150-JIS-Screwdriver-Set-of-3-items/132474420468?epid=24009321230&hash=item1ed8173cf4:g:Z9QAAOSwEYBaX9Jj
Charlie

evinrude7 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:33:06 PM »

check out this photo from the ebay sale. thieves also love our impacta screwdrivers. great for a b & e!

Yamahawk · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:39:39 PM »

Quote from: evinrude7 on January 29, 2018, 04:33:06 PM

check out this photo from the ebay sale. thieves also love our impacta screwdrivers. great for a b & e!

Hehe I saw that... nice way to advertise eh?
Charlie

b1jackson · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:48:35 PM »

Quote from: Yamahawk on January 29, 2018, 03:51:20 PM

I am looking also, here is a set on eBay that has a ball driver grip. And it does seem like they size them the same.
Charlie
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ball-Grip-Screwdrivers-Set-Metric-Japanese-Motorcycle-Drivers-JIS-standard/282593919243?hash=item41cbe9010b:g:zHsAAOSwSj1Zf475

I bought this set and really like it. You can use the bits in a cordless impact driver so if you need some hammer action to pop out a stubborn screw, works great.

setdog · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:51:00 PM »

i got my eyes on the vessel set, i like the idea of it being an impact tool and regular sdriver

Yamahawk · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2018, 04:57:29 PM »

In a perfect world, I would have both lol... I like the idea of being able to pound on the screwdriver, have done that ALOT on Harbor Freight free ones.. they don't last long, but hey... they're free! I may get one of the vessel set in #2, as that is what most all I use on the bikes, and then get the other set for routine use.
Charlie

Stev-o · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2018, 05:55:28 PM »

Quote from: setdog on January 29, 2018, 04:51:00 PM

i got my eyes on the vessel set, i like the idea of it being an impact tool and regular sdriver

The Vessel Impacta did not replace my standard impact driver. I use the Impacta for "light duty" use, not removing 40 year old corroded engine cover screws.

beemerbum · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2018, 06:18:18 PM »

I have found that the Motion-Pro T handle that comes with very good JIS bits (1,2 and 3) works better than banging away with an impact Driver. If the screw head is in anywhere like original condition, the torque you can apply with the T handle tool will break open any corroded screw. If the screw head is FUBAR, then the impact driver will be necessary. BTW, the Vessel #3 JIS isn't all that hot as an impact driver. Works superbly as a screwdriver

przjohn · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2018, 06:41:26 PM »

I have the Vessel set and they are top quality. The impact doesn't replace a true impact driver it just has a tang and direct stem thru the handle.

Erny · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2018, 01:49:24 PM »

I just today ordered these:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B071SGNCSM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B003BGTTSE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.de/Bessel-Vessel-Difference-Screwdrivers-No-220w-3/dp/B00E55DL4I/ref=sr_1_12?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1517348806&sr=8-12&keywords=vessel+screw

BassHog · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2018, 03:55:27 PM »

Like they all said, go with the Vessel drivers I got a 1, 2, and a 3 Impacta. The Impacta would not free my stuck case screws though, you will need a real impact driver for that. I love the screwdrivers, they also work great on non JIS screws.

evinrude7 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2018, 04:48:04 PM »

Quote from: BassHog on January 30, 2018, 03:55:27 PM

Like they all said, go with the Vessel drivers I got a 1, 2, and a 3 Impacta. The Impacta would not free my stuck case screws though, you will need a real impact driver for that. I love the screwdrivers, they also work great on non JIS screws.

that's what i'm looking for. bits for a lower power impact driver i have. 1/4" drive. i believe it's strong enough to free a stuck case screw but not strong enough to run an 1/2" x 6" lag screw into a hardwood all the way.

sixthwisconsin · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2018, 04:56:18 PM »

This thread was a good reminder that I needed to order new JIS screw Drivers. I have the MotionPro T Handle and I ordered the Vessel #2 & #3 as well as the Ball Grip today. Thanks guys!!

przjohn · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2018, 07:27:49 PM »

If you are talking about JIS for a small 1/4" Battery Impact I think we are talking about different things. A 1/4" battery impact is good for alot of things but a manual impact driver is what you want for Phillips type case screws. Even the best JIS bits on a Battery Impact Driver will not work anywhere near as well for removing Phillips Case Screws as a manual impact just because of the fact that you are hammering the bit into the srew head. For bolts, nuts, and Allens the Battery 1/4 works well.

evinrude7 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2018, 07:55:38 PM »

Quote from: przjohn on January 30, 2018, 07:27:49 PM

If you are talking about JIS for a small 1/4" Battery Impact I think we are talking about different things. A 1/4" battery impact is good for alot of things but a manual impact driver is what you want for Phillips type case screws. Even the best JIS bits on a Battery Impact Driver will not work anywhere near as well for removing Phillips Case Screws as a manual impact just because of the fact that you are hammering the bit into the srew head. For bolts, nuts, and Allens the Battery 1/4 works well.

then what am i looking for?

Yamahawk · « **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2018, 08:50:52 AM »

If you have an impact driver with a 3/8" x 1/4" hex adaptor, here are some from Amazon.
Charlie
https://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-08-0577-Cross-Head-Hex-Drive/dp/B06ZYK1JL4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1517417349&sr=8-2&keywords=jis+screwdriver+bits

evinrude7 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2018, 04:14:06 PM »

good find.

przjohn · « **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2018, 04:26:30 PM »

You want a manual impact driver, the kind you hit with a hammer to loosen Phillips Type Case Scews. The 1/4" Battery impact driver you are talking about is something completley different and is not as good a choice for loosening 40 year old Phillips Case screws. It is a great tool to use once the screw is loosened to spin it out and is very good for use on Crankcase bolts but for old frozen Phillips screws you want to wack them with a hammer type impact as your best bet to not screw them up. Your first shot at old Phillips Case Scews is your best shot and you don't want to take any chances stripping them out. The Vessell Hammer Type Impact JIS in some of the ads in this thread works well.

zeffcat · « **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2018, 04:38:39 PM »

I got this vessel one and I've been very pleased with it.

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Author Topic: JIS recommendations (Read 4264 times)