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Offline aminemed

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K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« on: February 11, 2018, 02:07:40 PM »
Hi

I'm running K&N pod filters on my 750 K2. I'm wondering if it would run better with aluminium velocity stacks. I'm having some trouble to get the proper air/mixture ratio. I thought that maybe velocity stacks configuration could help. What's your thoughts ?

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2018, 02:17:53 PM »
Actually, yes velocity stacks work very well, and better than pods. The stock airbox intake rubbers are actually like a velocity stack, and that's why they work well. Here is a sample of a velocity stack with a UNI filter built in, I haven't used them, but they look really nice and should suit your needs, along with supplying a filter... which is what most velocity stacks lack.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Velocity-Stack-39mm-Honda-CB500-CB550-CB750-Suzuki-GS550-with-UNI-air-filter/232540818302?hash=item3624834b7e:g:tYoAAOSwoVNZ9Lna

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2018, 02:33:19 PM »
i need 4 of these, so i guess it is around 160$ ! that's expensive :)

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 02:36:34 PM »
 You may be about to get a lecture on the virtues of stock airboxes which are better even on Kawasaki's as I recently learned from a bike racer of all folks.
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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2018, 02:41:06 PM »
i've read a lot and i totally agree on the far superiority of honda engineers stock airbox. Although before ditching my actual setup i would like to keep on trying

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2018, 02:41:45 PM »
You may be about to get a lecture on the virtues of stock airboxes which are better even on Kawasaki's as I recently learned from a bike racer of all folks.

Hehe yeah Don, but that would be for pods lol.... there are 'velocity stacks' ;)
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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2018, 02:51:18 PM »
How is this plug for you ? It seems to me that the bike os thirsty

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2018, 02:55:11 PM »
are those all the same plug in those three pictures? The plug isn't running rich, but is burning clean. I think I see some tan below the tip about 1/8" down the ceramic. I would say it might be a tad lean, but its not bad. How does it run, and are you all stock in exhaust and air box still?

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2018, 02:59:14 PM »
Yes same plug, pulled it to see the colour. No running k&n filters with a 4 into 1 exhaust. Bike was too rich and fouled plugs now its a bit too lean i feel it thirsty when i ride it, not as powerful as before, lacks some gas..a racing mechanic tolde that velocity stacks are better than k&n filters
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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2018, 03:01:51 PM »
What clip position are your needles set at? If it is on the fourth from top, you may need a larger main... if not, move it to 4th clip from top and see how it runs. Thats the next to bottom clip position.
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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2018, 03:05:44 PM »
Thanks !
Still open for any advice on velocity stacks

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Re: K&N pod filters vs velocity stacks
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2018, 05:36:39 PM »
I was running cheap pods which I had running decent, then switched to K&N pods and had those running pretty well for several months. I recently switched to velocity stacks and without changing anything the bike still runs fairly well but I haven't had a chance to ride it much and definitely haven't had time to tune it. From what little I have ridden it, maybe 30 miles, the stacks don't seem all that different (again, haven't had a chance to dial it in) so take that for what its worth. I'm hoping to have some time over the next couple weekends to get it just right and report back.