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1971 cb750 front end improvement
« on: February 09, 2018, 06:52:38 PM »
hey ya'all...
Im taking my 1971 Jap market cb750 [in polynesian blue I might add] to New Zealand to be my daily rider when ever im in the shaky isles, and Id like to get a little improvement in the front forks to kinda match the road contours and surface.......
Any comments -is there a cheape and simple improvemente such as revalving, fitting later internal damper tubes, or can I buy a gold emulator kit etc.
I have the forks set up with 7.5 fork oil, standard height, standard springs, no preload and no other changes - oh I did lightly polish the lower fork legs to reduce winde drag at speed.......

With regard to the back end, its pretty obviously I have to ditch the stock looking shocks and update to Hagons, or maybe Ikons, pity...........
But lets focus on the front end first....

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Re: 1971 cb750 front end improvement
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 08:34:07 PM »
Well, let's see... if our forks are 35mm, then perhaps the Mike's XS damper valves ( also known as cartridge emulators) would fit. (They are cheap, at around $55 a set). I used a set in 1982 Yamaha XZ550 Vision forks, and they really made a difference in ride quality. You do need to pull the damper tubes and drill them for extra holes, etc. but when you get them done, they really make a ride quality difference in the rebound and compression damping. (Oil viscosity sets the compression damping). And you could replace the almost 50 year old springs with some new ones from RaceTech or another one of the spring manufacturers. Chances are, they need replacement, and if you plug in your bike and weight, in the spring rate calculator on their website, you will find the correct rate for your bike. It is usually higher than the stock rate. Those tow things will really help.
There is a fellow named Matt Patton who installs cartridges from GSXR600's into various forks, I had him do a set of 36mm Ninja250 forks, for a race bike I am building, and he has good reviews. I want him to do a set for my 2006 Kawasaki Concours. Jaime Daugherty also has a good reputation in reworking front forks, and rear shocks. DMR Racing is his company, in Ft. Wayne Indiana. Anyway, the install of the MIke's XS valves, and new springs, at the correct rate for your bike weight (and yours too) will make a lot of difference, and installing some good shocks in the rear will complete your bike's ride.
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Re: 1971 cb750 front end improvement
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 08:51:32 PM »
Use a multi-weight oil in the front forks of the early 750. They have nice damper parts, unlike the later ones, with separate jounce-and-recoil oil circuits. I like the 5w20 in cold weather and 10w30 in hot (summer) weather or with heavy loads. I also strongly recommend air-fork caps, or just make your own with some threaded tire valves, right into the fork caps (like mine). Run 3-10 PSI (a little makes a big difference here) to cool the forks and prevent oil foaming when riding hard & heavy. I carry a Vetter fairing up front, usually with junk in the pockets, and about 5-7 PSI for commuting service. This also reduces oil weepage at the fork seals, provided they are good.
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Re: 1971 cb750 front end improvement
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM »
great, thanks...
Im gonna start with the new fork springs and multi weight oil and try it for a few miles and then see what I want to do after that.........
thanks again guys