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Offline JonathanHValencia

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Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« on: February 23, 2018, 04:29:28 PM »
Hey folks,

The original idiot lights have one wire to each light. For example, the right turn signal has one wire, baby blue
My new lights from Cognito Moto are imbedded in my top triple clamp and have a black and colored wire for each light. I can’t figure out how to wire these. Can someone help?

I asked them and they said “Should go just like stock. Each wires positive is colors the same as the LED. You will need to touch each to a battery to find the ground on each matching LED. The oil and neutral are the only ones that are reversed. Meaning that the colored wire is wired to an auxiliary positive and the black wire goes to the switches that are ground.“

Can somebody clarify. I’m new to this

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2018, 08:04:27 AM »
Neutral and oil are ground seeking switches the rest are positive.

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 08:09:28 AM »
LED's are actually a diode that passed voltage only one way. So you hook up the two wires to 12v and ground, and the way that they light up is the correct way to wire them into you harness. Now the neutral and oil lights, go to the switch with the negative side that you determined go to ground. The other side goes to 12v. It isn't that hard to figure out, and if it doesn't work one way, swap the wires around. You will figure it out.
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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2018, 08:26:54 AM »
Depending on the bike and LEDs you may have signal light cross feed and have to deal with that using diodes. Here's one I did a while back.

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2018, 09:17:50 AM »
So for high beam, and turn signals it’s color to power and black to ground? And vice versa for the neutral and oil?

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 09:21:22 AM »
I believe so. The only one that may need the diodes as mentioned is the turn signal indicator, as there is only one.
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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 10:02:11 AM »
Hmmm,

Even tho there’s a desperate switch for each? A blue and orange?

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 10:02:36 AM »
Depending on the bike and LEDs you may have signal light cross feed and have to deal with that using diodes. Here's one I did a while back.

How did you wire it using diodes?

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2018, 10:36:45 AM »
If there are separate directional idiot lights you don't need any diodes.
Yes the neutral and oil lights get all-the-time + power from any handy black wire as the switches connect their lights' wires go to ground. Wiring for accessory lights can use green or black for ground and any non-green color for "+" power. Unless whoever makes them is mental, green is always "-" and red is always "+".
For connecting a bike's single indicator to a LED lamp it's just two diodes, one from each signal wire to the LED "+" wire (both connect to the one LED wire) and the LED's "-" wire to ground. Without the diodes, the LED will light for one side only.

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2018, 11:00:09 AM »
The two diodes are shown in the diagram.Since you have 12V LEDs you do not need the resistor.

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2018, 12:27:27 PM »
If there are separate directional idiot lights you don't need any diodes.
Yes the neutral and oil lights get all-the-time + power from any handy black wire as the switches connect their lights' wires go to ground. Wiring for accessory lights can use green or black for ground and any non-green color for "+" power. Unless whoever makes them is mental, green is always "-" and red is always "+".
For connecting a bike's single indicator to a LED lamp it's just two diodes, one from each signal wire to the LED "+" wire (both connect to the one LED wire) and the LED's "-" wire to ground. Without the diodes, the LED will light for one side only.

I have two yellow signal idiot lights. One on each side of neutral.

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2018, 12:28:57 PM »
The two diodes are shown in the diagram.Since you have 12V LEDs you do not need the resistor.

My level of proficiency in this is negative 3. That diagram is Chinese to me lol

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2018, 01:14:24 PM »
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I have two yellow signal idiot lights. One on each side of neutral
 

Diodes as mentioned are not needed then. You likely have a later model SOHC. I'm running LED indicators in my K7 fine but using the OEM sockets.

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Re: Wiring Help - Idiot Lights
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2018, 02:38:16 PM »
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I have two yellow signal idiot lights. One on each side of neutral
 

Diodes as mentioned are not needed then. You likely have a later model SOHC. I'm running LED indicators in my K7 fine but using the OEM sockets.

My idiot lights are from Cognito Moto. They’re aftermarket and imbedded in my top triple.