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Offline 1978CB750SS

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« on: March 06, 2018, 02:00:57 PM »
I been looking at a bike in Vermont. I live in NY. Is a Vermont title easily accepted at my local NY DMV?. The bike is a 2002.Here in NY, there is a sale date on the titles, This title the guy has,,I have not seen it.. I asked if the title is in his name, he said no. As long as the sale date is blank, is everything a go? Anyone here ever bought a Vermont bike and got it  titled/ registered it in NY?

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Re: Titles
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2018, 04:20:28 AM »
I been looking at a bike in Vermont. I live in NY. Is a Vermont title easily accepted at my local NY DMV?. The bike is a 2002.Here in NY, there is a sale date on the titles, This title the guy has,,I have not seen it.. I asked if the title is in his name, he said no. As long as the sale date is blank, is everything a go? Anyone here ever bought a Vermont bike and got it  titled/ registered it in NY?
Hmmm.. a red flag here is that the title isn't in his name. Do check the Vermont requirements for NOTARIZING the title or not. If the title is signed off by the fellow whose name is on the title, and there is a requirement for notary of signature, then make sure it is done. If not, N.Y. may have a problem with the title. If there is no Notary requirement in Vermont, AND the name on the title is signed off by the same fellow, (not the person selling the bike) then you may only have to get a title inspection in your state. In Ohio we have to get any out of state vehicle inspected to make sure the title and VIN number matches... then we are good to go.
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Re: Titles
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2018, 04:44:15 AM »
Vermont only requires a bill of sale and it does not require it to be notarized. They don't even care where you live.  However, they will check NCIC and possibly the NCIB web sites for theft and insurance claims for theft.

   However, I'm not sure about a bike already titled in Vermont.  Might be tricky.

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Re: Titles
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 05:57:31 AM »
NOTARIZING A TITLE IS ONLY WHEN THE PERSON IS SELLING HIS TITLED BIKE.  Now, if the bike has a Vermont title, and the fellow selling it isn't the one listed on the title, there are a couple things happening... he either bought the bike from another Vermont resident, and never had the title transferred into his name, which makes the bike still legally the fellow's listed on the title. IF this person has already signed off on the title properly, there should be no problem. IF not, there could be a problem with New York giving you a title.
Here are Vermont requirements.
https://www.dmv.org/vt-vermont/title-transfers.php
Hope this helps.
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Re: Titles
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 09:06:44 AM »
Thanks people for the info. I'm waiting to see a pic of the title and frame vin before I drive to see it. If it is signed by previous owner and sale date is empty I may buy it as long as there is no liens on it and no need for notary on sale date.. As I recall, I had a Penn. titled bike at one time I bought here in NY and had to find a notary that would help me.I wasn't about to drive to Penn to find this guy and ask to meet him at a Penn. notary office.Nothing was hot, just paperwork bs hoops they make ya jump through.
 I know Vermont is pretty easy on requirements of registering older vehicles. I don't know if they issue titles on older vehicles. Like 1972 and under in NY, you only need/get the signed over transferrable registration and bill of sale. Now, I believe they have an extra paper for the seller to sign saying the price, odometer and date of sale so NY can get the proper sales tax each time it changes hands.  (which I think is also BS, How many times do they need to collect sales tax on an old ass bike?)
    They don't want ya skipping title fees and owners. I think it's a Gov. rip off. Plus ya have to wait weeks for the title to resell the bike ya just bought to fix and sell. If this guy only has a transferable registration from Vermont, will it be accepted in NY as an actual title is what I'm still wondering.

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Re: Titles
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 09:13:34 AM »
Buying from a Private Party
If you purchase a used Vermont vehicle in a private sale, you'll need to obtain the following documents and submit them to your local DMV office:

The original vehicle title, properly assigned over to you by the owner.
If the title is missing, the seller needs to give you the previous registration certificate, and you will need to have the vehicle undergo a VIN inspection.
A completed Bill of Sale and Odometer Disclosure Statement (Form VT-005), filled out by you and the seller.
Proof of a lien release, if applicable.
The vehicle cannot be sold to you if it still has a lien against it.
A completed Registration/Title/Tax Application (Form VD-119).
You can reference the DMV's instructions sheet for this application for help.
Payment for your titling fees and taxes.

There it is....."Filled out by the seller.." I'd have to see if the old owner is still available for paperwork.