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Offline juntjoo

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how did you learn to ride?
« on: March 06, 2018, 04:20:37 PM »
I wish I had ridden dirt bikes at least as a kid. Now as a +40 adult it's not as thrilling as it's scary to ride motorcycle. But it is getting more enjoyable as I get a bit more comfortable each time

they should require you take a course in off road & dangerous conditions riding first so you learn how to maneuver it in various conditions to a certain degree to have SOME reference as to how to respond. so instead while I'm riding I'm thinking of all the ways I could lose control and what I could do with my body to minimize my contact with the ground (roll!). I'd pay for an advanced course like that especially if they supplied the beater bikes.

When and how did you learn with what prior experience and what not? Any tips other than just taking it slow as I'm doing?
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2018, 04:58:39 PM »
Sign up up for a course with the Motorcycle Safety Foundation in your area. They go through all of that you are talking about.  Stop thinking about what can happen to you. Safety is an illusion.  In my area a 13 year old was sleeping in his room and a tree  was blown down and killed him. If you can't detach yourself from those thoughts stop riding.
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2018, 05:08:40 PM »
Your fear just represents a loss of control (of your actions not of the bike). 

I was no different, although I was younger - sooner or later you'll develop a what I call "<bleep> it!" attitude and not worry about it anymore.  Bike breaks down on the road - "F$%# it!"  Car cuts you off - "F@#^ it!"  The requirement is to ride, ride often, ride everywhere, you'll get to the point where that nagging fear won't even enter your head because riding will feel so natural.

Take a safety course if you haven't yet - they teach you more than just riding, but they also make you ride the bike, far more than you would on your own.
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2018, 05:20:04 PM »
 Look where you want to go. The bike will go where your eyes and chin are pointing.  Google "target fixation ". Then don't do that.
 Trust the bike and the tires. It'll grip when you chicken out.

 Cover the brake and the clutch.

 Everyone wants to kill you . Ride like it.  Wear a helmet, 100% of the time.
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 06:17:11 PM »
I grew up with a dad chopping CBs in our garage (and living room in the winter).  When he would show up on his motorcycle outside the school when all of us kids were getting on the bus and I got to roar out of the parking lot on a chopper with a cool metal flake helmet with all my friends screaming out the bus windows... now, that was cool. 

But the coolest part was that when I rode on the bike with my dad, he was really great about always explaining what he was doing.  Why he rode in the left half of the lane 95% of the time.  How a motorcycle steers (counter steers) differently from a bicycle.  When any other vehicle was making any sort of left turn, he would point it out as something he was tracking closely.  Basically, how to stay alive on a bike around cars. 

Then when I was in 7th grade I finally had some income from mowing lawns and I was determined to buy a '76 Suzuki RM80 off a kid near me.  My dad was a trucker and would be gone 1-2 weeks at a time and when he came home and saw me with $300 of the $400 I needed to buy this janky old bike, he walked me over to look at this bike, said not a single word, and we walked back home.  An hour later he said, "Give me your $300."  I was like, no way, why?  "We're going down to the shop to have a look at a bike." 

So we head down to the shop and look at this brand new '85 RM80 on the showroom floor, he pockets my money and writes a check for $950 and we took her home.  It was one of the five best things that have happened in my life. 

A couple days later he tells me to go disassemble my bike as fully as I could and to pay attention to how everything went together.  I got the seat, tank, carb, plastic, shock, swingarm and wheels off and he goes, "I'll be back in 10 days or so.  If you want to ride while I'm gone, you'll need to figure out how to put your bike back together."  That, too, was such a gift in terms of confidence. 

Some friends and I built a track in the back corner of a cornfield that wasn't used, did a little racing at the local track (Knobby Hill in Sheridan, Indiana).  Years later I got really into mountain biking (still my major obsession) and spent 12-20 hours a week training on the road and I think the hyper-awareness of defensive riding that my dad instilled is what kept me alive around all the psycho motorists.  (Then texting became a thing and my bicycle tires only ride on dirt and rock.)

First road bike was an '83 V45 Magna.  Then I rode an '87 Softail Custom for a long time.  Then I became a dad and the Softail has sat in storage for 15 years and I buzzed around on a '96 XR400 for a while.  Then nothing for the past 8 years. 

These vintage bikes are what rekindled the fire for me. 

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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 06:26:53 PM »
I grew up with a dad chopping CBs in our garage (and living room in the winter).  When he would show up on his motorcycle outside the school when all of us kids were getting on the bus and I got to roar out of the parking lot on a chopper with a cool metal flake helmet with all my friends screaming out the bus windows... now, that was cool. 

But the coolest part was that when I rode on the bike with my dad, he was really great about always explaining what he was doing.  Why he rode in the left half of the lane 95% of the time.  How a motorcycle steers (counter steers) differently from a bicycle.  When any other vehicle was making any sort of left turn, he would point it out as something he was tracking closely.  Basically, how to stay alive on a bike around cars. 

Then when I was in 7th grade I finally had some income from mowing lawns and I was determined to buy a '76 Suzuki RM80 off a kid near me.  My dad was a trucker and would be gone 1-2 weeks at a time and when he came home and saw me with $300 of the $400 I needed to buy this janky old bike, he walked me over to look at this bike, said not a single word, and we walked back home.  An hour later he said, "Give me your $300."  I was like, no way, why?  "We're going down to the shop to have a look at a bike." 

So we head down to the shop and look at this brand new '85 RM80 on the showroom floor, he pockets my money and writes a check for $950 and we took her home.  It was one of the five best things that have happened in my life. 

A couple days later he tells me to go disassemble my bike as fully as I could and to pay attention to how everything went together.  I got the seat, tank, carb, plastic, shock, swingarm and wheels off and he goes, "I'll be back in 10 days or so.  If you want to ride while I'm gone, you'll need to figure out how to put your bike back together."  That, too, was such a gift in terms of confidence. 

Some friends and I built a track in the back corner of a cornfield that wasn't used, did a little racing at the local track (Knobby Hill in Sheridan, Indiana).  Years later I got really into mountain biking (still my major obsession) and spent 12-20 hours a week training on the road and I think the hyper-awareness of defensive riding that my dad instilled is what kept me alive around all the psycho motorists.  (Then texting became a thing and my bicycle tires only ride on dirt and rock.)

First road bike was an '83 V45 Magna.  Then I rode an '87 Softail Custom for a long time.  Then I became a dad and the Softail has sat in storage for 15 years and I buzzed around on a '96 XR400 for a while.  Then nothing for the past 8 years. 

These vintage bikes are what rekindled the fire for me.

great little story! inspiring
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 06:27:16 PM »
thanks for the input! 
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 06:41:55 PM »
thanks for the input!

Some gold in this thread already! 

IMO, your #1 goal should be to get back home safely so you can ride again the next day.  Always within your limits. 

How often do we all hear, "I've known so many people killed or mangled from motorcycles."  When I'm driving with my kids and someone rides by doing something foolish, I always point it out and say, "When people say that everyone who rides motorcycles is just asking to be killed... that guy right there, he's the guy who gets killed.  Don't be that guy."     Just do your thing and keep your eye on everyone around you. 
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2018, 07:15:55 PM »
yes, this is good as I'm the only person I know that rides a motorcycle. I just love the freedom of riding my bicycle all over the place and thought 'wonder would it be like to have a rocket attached underneath' and I love it though I'm afraid to use it still but I like the option.

anyway, I'm reading that to an experienced rider the fears I'm having are totally irrational, though I'm not going make any attempts to drop my fears completely. it will have to gradual. I know I'm not immune to making errors from inexperience. when I was a kid there was this rope swing hanging from a big tree on the side of a hill that took literally a little leap of faith to jump onto from a branch then you'd go swing out over this hill increasing your drop by like 2ft every foot you went out, so it was a little dangerous thrill that only the bravest kids enjoyed. my friend was one of them and I took his encouragement eagerly to be able to enjoy the swing with him. well just the fear of standing on that branch already 6ft off the ground in front of the swing you had to leap up onto before it would take you quickly over your death, was enough to make me lose control and drop right there holding onto the swing, slam into the tree and break my ankle. my friend and other kids hit that swing all day long without hesitation and technically it's really easy to use but that first try can mess you up. man, now that I think of it I should have went back months later. how might the "butterfly effect" have turned out differently.

anyway, excuse the tangent. Just saying I'm taking this slow. I'll let ya know when I get out on the highway when I can start singing "born to be wild". i do now a little but it's a little comical
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2018, 08:19:16 PM »
I know what you're saying.  It's never good to be so tense that you lose your awareness or coordination.  It's tricky, but on a motorcycle you have to find a sweet spot where you are both cautious and assertive.  Don't mistake being careful with being passive around cars.  It's tough on a motorcycle, but it's twice as hard (and critical) on a bicycle, so in that way you can consider yourself somewhat experienced at navigating the roads! 
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2018, 10:05:20 PM »
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 02:37:16 AM »
I learned to ride by: reading the owner’s manual. Reading whatever books were available in 1970 about how to ride a motorcycle. I took the advice of those books and manual and practiced in empty parking lots, cornering, braking, weaving, shifting etc.
My first bike was a 1970 cl 100. I took it on dirt, off road and the street. I did all my own maintenance, for two basic reasons, I didn’t have the money to pay someone else and I only trusted myself....and I learned about the bike.
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2018, 02:47:39 AM »
1969. 17 years old on a 175cc 3 speed BSA Bantam D10.

The dealer dropped it off at home and I made the rest up as I went along.

Looking back I'm not sure how I survived till now.

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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2018, 04:16:25 AM »
I was fortunate enough to have some dirt bike riding before I started on the street. I reassert other's advice about taking a motorcycle safety course. I am even considering seeking out an advanced course to try and become an even better rider, and that's after having owned a street going bike for (gasp) over 30 years and 60,000 miles. I also highly recommend these coffee table books:


https://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Motorcycling-Ultimate-Guide-Riding/dp/1889540536

https://www.amazon.com/More-Proficient-Motorcycling-Mastering-Paperback/dp/B00ZVO35CK/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520424516&sr=1-5&keywords=more+proficient+motorcycling


Like gtmdriver indicated, I also consider myself fortunate to have survived my training at the "school of hard knocks"...  :o  ;)  ;D

Riding isn't that hard, just stay focused on the task of riding safely like no one else can see you.  8)
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2018, 04:26:32 AM »
I was fortunate enough to have some dirt bike riding before I started on the street. I reassert other's advice about taking a motorcycle safety course. I am even considering seeking out an advanced course to try and become an even better rider, and that's after having owned a street going bike for (gasp) over 30 years and 60,000 miles. I also highly recommend these coffee table books:


https://www.amazon.com/Proficient-Motorcycling-Ultimate-Guide-Riding/dp/1889540536

https://www.amazon.com/More-Proficient-Motorcycling-Mastering-Paperback/dp/B00ZVO35CK/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1520424516&sr=1-5&keywords=more+proficient+motorcycling


Like gtmdriver indicated, I also consider myself fortunate to have survived my training at the "school of hard knocks"...  :o  ;)  ;D

Riding isn't that hard, just stay focused on the task of riding safely like no one else can see you.  8)

thanks. ordered a used one(1st book) for $6. sweet!
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2018, 04:34:54 AM »
Back when I learned to ride, they didn't have Motorcycle Safety Foundation courses, and I learned by experience... it took me about 3 years to realize that, even though I was doing everything correctly, it didn't matter if I was dead from a F*ing cager, (Car Driver)...excuse my French!
Now, I have talked with a Sheriff deputy who rides as a motorcycle officer, and has been riding 30+ years. He took the MSF course after riding that long, and said that he LEARNED something from it... Now, if a fellow who rides a motorcycle for 30 years can learn from that course, I believe you can too. So, sign up for the MSF course in your area, and take it. Here you get your endorsement from completing the course, and you get lower insurance rates too...
There is a lot of good advice here from guys who have been riding more years than you have been alive, so pay attention to what they tell you. Some of them have underwear older lol...
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2018, 04:36:12 AM »
thanks. ordered a used one(1st book) for $6. sweet!


 8)  8)  8)

I've read mine a couple of times, and for the price I usually keep a couple in stock and will pass one along with any bike that I sell.  :)
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2018, 04:38:57 AM »
Crashed on a 1971 Honda Z50 street legal minibike when I was 12-13 years old back then.  Loved that bike and it took me a lot of places daytime or night time with that six volt headlight.  Girls riding on the back on a seat built for one and a half people . . . . bada bing bada boom.

   Wish I still had that bike.

Rick
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2018, 06:19:05 AM »
Back in the early 70's at 16 in Connecticut the law was buy a bike, get a permit and learn to ride. Pretty much just rode around town until I got the hang of it. Much simpler time back then, you had 6 months to learn to ride then go get your license. 

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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2018, 10:01:46 AM »
I took the MSF class after 30 years of incident free riding. They detected I had done dirt first since I was looking to far down looking for rocks  and other obstructions. After couple of exercises the guy got pissed and screamed in my ear "you f ckin" look up you hear me. I hear his voice evry time I ride and I have had fewer close calls.

The one exercise they have that is very good is making you go in a circle that gets smakler so you are hitting a peg. This is to teach you that bike will turn and can be trusted. They found through studies people depend on there brakes too much and drive right into what they could have gone around.
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2018, 12:38:08 PM »
 The fear is rational. Confidence will overcome it but keep it set aside. Knowledge and technique are your friends, the nicest people will look right at you and pull out anyway. Trust no other vehicle or animal to do what they should.
    I'm a big fan of practice stopping. I put dual discs on my 76F and ruined a front tire learning the best way to stop fast. I even did an 80 to zero on my GL1000 last year, I was on a closed road and it whoad impressively. The fresh that season pads were stinking though.
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2018, 02:59:46 PM »
Back when I learned to ride, they didn't have Motorcycle Safety Foundation courses, and I learned by experience... it took me about 3 years to realize that, even though I was doing everything correctly, it didn't matter if I was dead from a F*ing cager, (Car Driver)...excuse my French!
Now, I have talked with a Sheriff deputy who rides as a motorcycle officer, and has been riding 30+ years. He took the MSF course after riding that long, and said that he LEARNED something from it... Now, if a fellow who rides a motorcycle for 30 years can learn from that course, I believe you can too. So, sign up for the MSF course in your area, and take it. Here you get your endorsement from completing the course, and you get lower insurance rates too...
There is a lot of good advice here from guys who have been riding more years than you have been alive, so pay attention to what they tell you. Some of them have underwear older lol...
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i did take a course to get my endorsement. im guessing you're talking about an extended course which the lady did mention were available. the course I took covered all the basics well over two days. it was a good start
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2018, 03:00:44 PM »
Crashed on a 1971 Honda Z50 street legal minibike when I was 12-13 years old back then.  Loved that bike and it took me a lot of places daytime or night time with that six volt headlight.  Girls riding on the back on a seat built for one and a half people . . . . bada bing bada boom.

   Wish I still had that bike.

Rick

lol
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2018, 03:03:13 PM »
Back in the early 70's at 16 in Connecticut the law was buy a bike, get a permit and learn to ride. Pretty much just rode around town until I got the hang of it. Much simpler time back then, you had 6 months to learn to ride then go get your license.

wow. seems more sensible then. they just required a few hours out of me then let me free on the road
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Re: how did you learn to ride?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2018, 03:10:25 PM »
I took the MSF class after 30 years of incident free riding. They detected I had done dirt first since I was looking to far down looking for rocks  and other obstructions. After couple of exercises the guy got pissed and screamed in my ear "you f ckin" look up you hear me. I hear his voice evry time I ride and I have had fewer close calls.

The one exercise they have that is very good is making you go in a circle that gets smakler so you are hitting a peg. This is to teach you that bike will turn and can be trusted. They found through studies people depend on there brakes too much and drive right into what they could have gone around.
  okay that's interedting. ive been tempted to try little exercises like that. thx for the suggestion. I don't really have to scuff up my pegs do i? and just keep doing it to get comfortable with the bike's turning ability? as I may have spoke earlier on, I feel like I don't k ow what will happen should say a squirrel jump out, or for a better example, a kid, what will I be able to do with the bike. hence the desire for offroad and dangerous conditions practice. unfortunately you can't really practice high speed stuff unless you got some sort of safe obstacle course but ill definitely try out your exercise and actually I was looking at some empty parking lots... dang.. I should've gotten that girl's number in the riding class with me. could use a practice partner ;)
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