Topic: WARNING-buying a heat pressed seat cover may not be good for your health

[itsahonda4]

Well I started out to buy a heat moulded seat cover from The Vintage Spoke site and ended up being insulted because someone on the other end of the line thought I had insulted them when I asked for confirmation that my notes on an order had been understood....
"Maybe you should learn to read English, the item was not for a K1 and personally I do not care about your ratty ass collection of boat anchors. We are not to a point where we need to do business with such a rude person as yourself.

Good day

Kindest Regards,

The Vintage Spoke
Parts Team"
Score no points for them on ebay.....................

[Duke McDukiedook]

Some strange cats out on the feebay these days.

[Stev-o]

Now that's good customer service!

[Bodi]

Well...
Their listing is not hard to understand:

Application:
HONDA CB750 CB750F FOUR 1977-1978

If you asked if this seat cover will fit on a K1 (just a guess) you would likely get a similar reply from me... well, the "Maybe you should learn to read English, the item was not for a K1" without the cranky stuff afterwards (unless it had been a really bad day).
I prefer a Danforth anchor for lake boating, but a bike would do in a pinch (I'm beside a "great" lake but hours from any ocean). Probably illegal though, unless you could be sure no polluting material remains in it.

[754]

 Someone hacked them, no way their English could be that good..

[Yamahawk]

Well...
Their listing is not hard to understand:

Application:
HONDA CB750 CB750F FOUR 1977-1978

If you asked if this seat cover will fit on a K1 (just a guess) you would likely get a similar reply from me... well, the "Maybe you should learn to read English, the item was not for a K1" without the cranky stuff afterwards (unless it had been a really bad day).
I prefer a Danforth anchor for lake boating, but a bike would do in a pinch (I'm beside a "great" lake but hours from any ocean). Probably illegal though, unless you could be sure no polluting material remains in it.

You could troll for ATV's or Snowmobiles, and use one of them, as they are already in the lake...
Charlie

[itsahonda4]

no Mr Bodi, unfortunately you missed the point...I couldn't find a K1 seat listing anywhere on their website and Id already ordered a K0 seat cover, so yes indeed I did order a K2 seat cover, but made a specific point of writing extensive notes to ask them to substitute a K1 seat cover.. and I explained why I ordered the K2 cover....I just couldn't find a K1 cover on their website.....I thought that was pretty simple but it certainly went downhill from there...
I guess I find it funny that what was a simple request devolved into name calling,and "#%*@ yu" customer service.....
So Ill buy my cover from Z1...

[BPellerine]

it seems to be easy to say that stuff online,as many vendors get rude when you start asking questions.bill

[Duke McDukiedook]

Reminds me of a wacky teacher I had for differential equations in university. Whenever a girl would ask a question in class he would berate them for asking
one and tell them to consult JAMA because they were asking a medical question and when they were ready to ask a math question he would gladly answer it.
 
He also liked to wear blazers to class with cravats.

[Yamahawk]

Reminds me of a wacky teacher I had for differential equations in university. Whenever a girl would ask a question in class he would berate them for asking
one and tell them to consult JAMA because they were asking a medical question and when they were ready to ask a math question he would gladly answer it.
 
He also liked to wear blazers to class with cravats.

...Mr. or Mrs. Kravats... oh yeah, cravats, sorry
Charlie

[Flyin900]

Weren't the Kravats on the "Honeymooners" as Ralph and Alice's neighbours? " Too the moon Alice!"

[Stev-o]

Weren't the Kravats on the "Honeymooners" as Ralph and Alice's neighbours? " Too the moon Alice!"

Thought Kravitz was the nosy neighbor on Bewitched?!

[Flyin900]

Hey at this age all those 50's and 60's shows blend together. I think your right though.

[Terry in Australia]

Itsahonda4 does seem to write in a slightly confusing style, so I can understand why the vendor dumped a bucket of abuse on him. I think I'd like to start an Ebay store with slightly vague product descriptions on purpose, to lure people into sending me copious notes so that I can write witty retorts to piss them off.

Carpy doesn't come around here very often anymore, but still posts regularly on Facebook. Recently he posted pics of his latest build, which looks remarkably like all his other builds, but I noticed that the main difference was that he had installed clip-ons rather than poxy Clubmans so I congratulated him on moving away from those horrible things, and he told me to go fcuk myself? How rude!

Now I can understand how the person who is arguably responsible for the worldwide return of the Cafe Racer craze isn't a millionaire, like those nice boys over at Orange County Choppers, and Jesse James, and Billy Lane, etc..........  

[Yamahawk]

Weren't the Kravats on the "Honeymooners" as Ralph and Alice's neighbours? " Too the moon Alice!"

Thought Kravitz was the nosy neighbor on Bewitched?!

Gladys Kravits lol...
Charlie

[rotortiller]

Some flea-bay merchants communicate like dicks with a big ego to boot LOL. My buddy says it's a British thing but I know enough Euro dudes that this is not typical. Enjoy this short conversation in which I got dressed down for asking some technical questions about a product and shipping as there was no picture or description of the seat underside. This is a first for me after being in the vintage buying sector for a couple of decades. Fortunately one just shops elsewhere to deal with professional business types. I got a chuckle and hope you guys do too.

Subject:
   Re: Kawasaki H2B seat
Date:    Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:19:09 -0500
From:    
To:    


Stephen

Do you thing I am sort of a bodger?, the seat pan is the same as the original it comes with rubbers fitted but not the original ones, I have over 500 seats to make at present and over 2000 seat covers, I am not waiting on the end of the phone hoping someone will give me some work.

I do not have time trying to find a courier to suit your needs and obviously you want everything as cheap as possible so I think its best you find another supplier who can cope with all your demands.

regards Bob

m

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen
Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:23
Subject: Re: Kawasaki H2B seat

Hi Bob,

Would the H2B seat have the same 6 resting points for fixing the OEM rubber seat supports as in the picture I have attached? The other matter is could the shipping documentation be labeled 'antique motorcycle saddle" and sent through the postal system rather than using a broker?  Might help me avoid import duty and postal method prevents hidden brokerage fees the recipient sees at delivery. Not sure if you build the seat with the chrome side pieces and it is not that important, but would be nice.

Thanks,

Stephen


On 11/18/2017 11:18 AM, @aol.com wrote:

    Stephen

    Ebay delete messages if they think you are doing a deal off ebay, they are getting a bit like the Mafia no problem to make a H2B seat but as for a shipping price it is impossible to give a price until the seat is packed and I have the weight and sizes.

    Bob

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Stephen
    To: @aol.com>
    Sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:22
    Subject: Kawasaki H2B seat


    Dear sir,

    I have been trying to acquire a seat through ebay for my 1974 H2B
    Kawasaki through 'xxxxxxxx' and I see you carry the same brand.
    Might even be the same person? Having a hard time with ebay
    communication and receiving a quote. I am in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada
    area for shipping estimate.


    thanks for your time,


    Stephen

[dave500]

carpy sucks his own cock,ebay sellers who cant even use proper grammar are retards,#$%* if your running a world wide store at least #$%*ing speeel check?

[przjohn]

The following can be applied to about 99% of disputes:

The truth lies somewhere in the middle.

[slikwilli420]

Some flea-bay merchants communicate like dicks with a big ego to boot LOL. My buddy says it's a British thing but I know enough Euro dudes that this is not typical. Enjoy this short conversation in which I got dressed down for asking some technical questions about a product and shipping as there was no picture or description of the seat underside. This is a first for me after being in the vintage buying sector for a couple of decades. Fortunately one just shops elsewhere to deal with professional business types. I got a chuckle and hope you guys do too.

Subject:
   Re: Kawasaki H2B seat
Date:    Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:19:09 -0500
From:    
To:    


Stephen

Do you thing I am sort of a bodger?, the seat pan is the same as the original it comes with rubbers fitted but not the original ones, I have over 500 seats to make at present and over 2000 seat covers, I am not waiting on the end of the phone hoping someone will give me some work.

I do not have time trying to find a courier to suit your needs and obviously you want everything as cheap as possible so I think its best you find another supplier who can cope with all your demands.

regards Bob

m

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen
Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 13:23
Subject: Re: Kawasaki H2B seat

Hi Bob,

Would the H2B seat have the same 6 resting points for fixing the OEM rubber seat supports as in the picture I have attached? The other matter is could the shipping documentation be labeled 'antique motorcycle saddle" and sent through the postal system rather than using a broker?  Might help me avoid import duty and postal method prevents hidden brokerage fees the recipient sees at delivery. Not sure if you build the seat with the chrome side pieces and it is not that important, but would be nice.

Thanks,

Stephen


On 11/18/2017 11:18 AM, @aol.com wrote:

    Stephen

    Ebay delete messages if they think you are doing a deal off ebay, they are getting a bit like the Mafia no problem to make a H2B seat but as for a shipping price it is impossible to give a price until the seat is packed and I have the weight and sizes.

    Bob

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Stephen
    To: @aol.com>
    Sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:22
    Subject: Kawasaki H2B seat


    Dear sir,

    I have been trying to acquire a seat through ebay for my 1974 H2B
    Kawasaki through 'xxxxxxxx' and I see you carry the same brand.
    Might even be the same person? Having a hard time with ebay
    communication and receiving a quote. I am in Halifax Nova Scotia Canada
    area for shipping estimate.


    thanks for your time,


    Stephen

That guy is a world class POS right there. Good on you for taking your business somewhere else.

[slikwilli420]

Itsahonda4 does seem to write in a slightly confusing style, so I can understand why the vendor dumped a bucket of abuse on him. I think I'd like to start an Ebay store with slightly vague product descriptions on purpose, to lure people into sending me copious notes so that I can write witty retorts to piss them off.

Carpy doesn't come around here very often anymore, but still posts regularly on Facebook. Recently he posted pics of his latest build, which looks remarkably like all his other builds, but I noticed that the main difference was that he had installed clip-ons rather than poxy Clubmans so I congratulated him on moving away from those horrible things, and he told me to go fcuk myself? How rude!

Now I can understand how the person who is arguably responsible for the worldwide return of the Cafe Racer craze isn't a millionaire, like those nice boys over at Orange County Choppers, and Jesse James, and Billy Lane, etc..........

Haha, I do enjoy good Carpy bashing. When I first got my CB750, he was the man (or so it seemed) that had all the parts, and built the coolest bikes. Soon after I found this forum and realized who really builds the best Honda's. Its funny that he is the self-proclaimed godfather of the cafe scene in America and such a CB nut, but as you said Terry, his builds are pretty low quality and he does a lot of hackjob stuff. He really plays up the "I did this first and all others are posers" image, but what I don't get is who is buying it?

[itsahonda4]

"Itsahonda4 does seem to write in a slightly confusing style, so I can understand why the vendor dumped a bucket of abuse on him."

Terry, I laughed pretty hard when I saw that....maybe it was too many trips up the Oxley Highway or stops at the Walcha pub when I was younger that causes me to talk in 'strine'...or all those years working for the Honda dealer in Kempsey, my home town...too funny, Im still laughing .....

[Terry in Australia]

Itsahonda4 does seem to write in a slightly confusing style, so I can understand why the vendor dumped a bucket of abuse on him. I think I'd like to start an Ebay store with slightly vague product descriptions on purpose, to lure people into sending me copious notes so that I can write witty retorts to piss them off.

Carpy doesn't come around here very often anymore, but still posts regularly on Facebook. Recently he posted pics of his latest build, which looks remarkably like all his other builds, but I noticed that the main difference was that he had installed clip-ons rather than poxy Clubmans so I congratulated him on moving away from those horrible things, and he told me to go fcuk myself? How rude!

Now I can understand how the person who is arguably responsible for the worldwide return of the Cafe Racer craze isn't a millionaire, like those nice boys over at Orange County Choppers, and Jesse James, and Billy Lane, etc..........

Haha, I do enjoy good Carpy bashing. When I first got my CB750, he was the man (or so it seemed) that had all the parts, and built the coolest bikes. Soon after I found this forum and realized who really builds the best Honda's. Its funny that he is the self-proclaimed godfather of the cafe scene in America and such a CB nut, but as you said Terry, his builds are pretty low quality and he does a lot of hackjob stuff. He really plays up the "I did this first and all others are posers" image, but what I don't get is who is buying it?

Carpy and I go back a long way Willi, and I think his self proclaimed status is fair, back in the 90's (when he moved from Oz to the US, he's not an Aussie, he's an Englishman who worked here as a postman) he was picking up complete CB750's in yard sales in the states for 50 bucks and adding 16" chopper rear wheels, CB900F rear shocks, fibreglass seats, clubmans, checkered flag decals etc, and hipsters were paying big bucks for them, he even sold one to the band "Greenday".

Why he's not held in the same high regard as the big bike builders I don't really know, but I think his attitude might be his "Achilles Heel". Back in the day when an Ebay seller was allowed to give a buyer a negative, it was always entertaining to read his psychotic abuse of some of the guys who'd bought his ill-fitting, poor quality crap and let him know they weren't happy........

[PeWe]

Plenty of  so called Café mods is one way to abuse a from the beginning very good looking bike. Just check which bike that will be sold for most money. A Café molested bike or a clean stock CB750 or very close to stock? Which Sandcast will cost most? K1-K2 going into that direction too...

Modify your own bike is a fun hobby but today is the wind blowing back to stock so all of us that had fun for decades ago modifying our bikes do it again, now back to stock or close to it undoing the earlier work.

It is fantastic that so many parts are available and are reproduced, more is coming. I'm sure this forum has helped that to happen.
Check the market for restored or NOS gauges, K0,K1, K2 cost some $$$

Drilling holes in parts is not nice design. Why follow a guy that modify the bike by making it worse? Next is triangular wheels? My worst riding experience on my bike is the horrible clubman bar. 6" longer fork tubes with a higher bar and "banana" seat much better"
Different if building the bike from the beginning from a scrapped bike with parts or close to it, saving it from the grave.

The good thing during the CB750 era are all parts that can replace stock, bolt off-bolt on possible to return to how it once was.

[dave500]

so long as some creative #$%* hasn't gone all nuts with an angle grinder?

[Terry in Australia]

There's plenty of them around Dave, I was looking at a FB bike forum, some dick had just bought a mint 1978 Suzuki GS1000 and was asking the members whether he should leave it stock or modify it, and the vast majority of members were telling him to put GSXR forks and wheels on it, blah blah blah, and I just about threw up in my mouth, someone had kept this bike perfect for 40 years, and along comes a hipster with too much money, and all his mates are telling him to fire up that angle grinder..........