Author Topic: 750K2 Hot Rod Revival - Early Christmas (Read 43155 times)

CBJoe · « **Reply #50 on:** May 24, 2018, 05:10:13 PM »

Got the tires replaced today with Pirelli Sport Demons.

That was the last time I’m doing tires and tubes myself if I can help it. What a pain...if I could go back I’d gladly pay the 70$ to have a local shop do it.

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andy750 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 24, 2018, 05:50:54 PM »

I am very interested in your review of these tires on a CB750.....

CBJoe · « **Reply #52 on:** May 24, 2018, 06:33:36 PM »

Quote from: andy750 on May 24, 2018, 05:50:54 PM

I am very interested in your review of these tires on a CB750.....

I'll be sure to post some feedback. Leaving for the holiday weekend, but hopefully back next week to wrap everything up and get it registered and on the road

CBJoe · « **Reply #53 on:** May 28, 2018, 11:53:23 AM »

Finally took the bike for a spin today

Was awesome finally getting it moving!

Learned a few things:

1.) Those handlebars are absolutely awful .....I'm going to shop around and order some today once I figure out what I want. Thinking of the Biltwell tracker https://www.biltwellinc.com/p310/buy/parts-amp-accessories/handlebars/tracker/-tracker-handlebars-7-8-quot-chrome/

2.) The Starter doesn't seem to work when hot....it spins up just fine but sounds like it isn't catching on the starter gear. I noticed once before when I was having the fueling issue that the starter gear wouldn't seem to engage sometimes. It would start to turn over and then would clunk and spin. Kickstart work just fine though....so theres that. I'm assuming this is likely the starter clutch?

All in all was a good first trip...haven't registered it yet so couldn't ride it around that much. Not that the handlebars would have permitted it!

Joe

MRieck · « **Reply #54 on:** May 28, 2018, 01:16:17 PM »

Quote from: CBJoe on May 28, 2018, 11:53:23 AM

Finally took the bike for a spin today Was awesome finally getting it moving!

Learned a few things:

1.) Those handlebars are absolutely awful .....I'm going to shop around and order some today once I figure out what I want. Thinking of the Biltwell tracker https://www.biltwellinc.com/p310/buy/parts-amp-accessories/handlebars/tracker/-tracker-handlebars-7-8-quot-chrome/

2.) The Starter doesn't seem to work when hot....it spins up just fine but sounds like it isn't catching on the starter gear. I noticed once before when I was having the fueling issue that the starter gear wouldn't seem to engage sometimes. It would start to turn over and then would clunk and spin.I'm assuming this is likely the starter clutch?

All in all was a good first trip...haven't registered it yet so couldn't ride it around that much. Not that the handlebars would have permitted it!

Joe

The charging rotor bolt needs to be tightened

CBJoe · « **Reply #55 on:** May 28, 2018, 02:24:09 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on May 28, 2018, 01:16:17 PM

Quote from: CBJoe on May 28, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Finally took the bike for a spin today Was awesome finally getting it moving!

Learned a few things:

1.) Those handlebars are absolutely awful .....I'm going to shop around and order some today once I figure out what I want. Thinking of the Biltwell tracker https://www.biltwellinc.com/p310/buy/parts-amp-accessories/handlebars/tracker/-tracker-handlebars-7-8-quot-chrome/

2.) The Starter doesn't seem to work when hot....it spins up just fine but sounds like it isn't catching on the starter gear. I noticed once before when I was having the fueling issue that the starter gear wouldn't seem to engage sometimes. It would start to turn over and then would clunk and spin.I'm assuming this is likely the starter clutch?

All in all was a good first trip...haven't registered it yet so couldn't ride it around that much. Not that the handlebars would have permitted it!

Joe

The charging rotor bolt needs to be tightened

Thanks Mike...I wouldn't have thought about that. I'll check it this week before riding it more.

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #56 on:** May 28, 2018, 03:40:25 PM »

Quote from: CBJoe on May 28, 2018, 11:53:23 AM

Finally took the bike for a spin today Was awesome finally getting it moving!

Learned a few things:

1.) Those handlebars are absolutely awful .....I'm going to shop around and order some today once I figure out what I want. Thinking of the Biltwell tracker https://www.biltwellinc.com/p310/buy/parts-amp-accessories/handlebars/tracker/-tracker-handlebars-7-8-quot-chrome/

2.) The Starter doesn't seem to work when hot....it spins up just fine but sounds like it isn't catching on the starter gear. I noticed once before when I was having the fueling issue that the starter gear wouldn't seem to engage sometimes. It would start to turn over and then would clunk and spin. Kickstart work just fine though....so theres that. I'm assuming this is likely the starter clutch?

All in all was a good first trip...haven't registered it yet so couldn't ride it around that much. Not that the handlebars would have permitted it!

Joe

Think about CB400f bars -- similar but with pre-made access holes for wiring.

CBJoe · « **Reply #57 on:** May 28, 2018, 04:49:09 PM »

Quote from: SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan on May 28, 2018, 03:40:25 PM

Quote from: CBJoe on May 28, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Finally took the bike for a spin today Was awesome finally getting it moving!

Learned a few things:

1.) Those handlebars are absolutely awful .....I'm going to shop around and order some today once I figure out what I want. Thinking of the Biltwell tracker https://www.biltwellinc.com/p310/buy/parts-amp-accessories/handlebars/tracker/-tracker-handlebars-7-8-quot-chrome/

2.) The Starter doesn't seem to work when hot....it spins up just fine but sounds like it isn't catching on the starter gear. I noticed once before when I was having the fueling issue that the starter gear wouldn't seem to engage sometimes. It would start to turn over and then would clunk and spin. Kickstart work just fine though....so theres that. I'm assuming this is likely the starter clutch?

All in all was a good first trip...haven't registered it yet so couldn't ride it around that much. Not that the handlebars would have permitted it!

Joe

Think about CB400f bars -- similar but with pre-made access holes for wiring.

Thanks! Those do indeed look good. Looks like 4into1.com has them for a good price. You caught me right before ordering the biltwells....good timing

andy750 · « **Reply #58 on:** May 28, 2018, 05:06:14 PM »

Or Euro K1 (CB750) bars are just as good as the 400 bars. I have them on both my CB750s (after removing the superbike bars/tomesseli cafe cars/K1 bars US spec etc etc). The Euro K1 bars are the way to go or Tomesseli bars for cafe comfort.

cheers
Andy

CBJoe · « **Reply #59 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:06:27 PM »

Quote from: andy750 on May 28, 2018, 05:06:14 PM

Or Euro K1 (CB750) bars are just as good as the 400 bars. I have them on both my CB750s (after removing the superbike bars/tomesseli cafe cars/K1 bars US spec etc etc). The Euro K1 bars are the way to go or Tomesseli bars for cafe comfort.

cheers
Andy

Thanks Andy...I ordered the 400f bars to try them, but I'll keep the others in mind of they don't work out. As soon as I get the bike registered and the tires worn it I'll post a ride report about them. To be honest I was so focused on the uncomfortable bars today I didn't even pay attention to handling!

scottly · « **Reply #60 on:** May 28, 2018, 08:13:02 PM »

Quote from: CBJoe on May 28, 2018, 02:24:09 PM

Quote from: MRieck on May 28, 2018, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: CBJoe on May 28, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Finally took the bike for a spin today Was awesome finally getting it moving!

Learned a few things:

1.) Those handlebars are absolutely awful .....I'm going to shop around and order some today once I figure out what I want. Thinking of the Biltwell tracker https://www.biltwellinc.com/p310/buy/parts-amp-accessories/handlebars/tracker/-tracker-handlebars-7-8-quot-chrome/

2.) The Starter doesn't seem to work when hot....it spins up just fine but sounds like it isn't catching on the starter gear. I noticed once before when I was having the fueling issue that the starter gear wouldn't seem to engage sometimes. It would start to turn over and then would clunk and spin.I'm assuming this is likely the starter clutch?

All in all was a good first trip...haven't registered it yet so couldn't ride it around that much. Not that the handlebars would have permitted it!

Joe

The charging rotor bolt needs to be tightened

Thanks Mike...I wouldn't have thought about that. I'll check it this week before riding it more.

When the rotor bolt came loose on my bike, it just spun; it wasn't intermittent. When the starter spins a loose rotor on the crank, it loosens the bolt even more.

MCRider · « **Reply #61 on:** May 29, 2018, 07:17:13 AM »

I vote for the 3 triplets of spring, cup, and roller. When they are failing they make the starter work at random. THey are nearly impossible to tell they've failed by eye, only the symptom you describe is the clue. The clutch itself is likely OK, just the spring. cup and roller sets.

CBJoe · « **Reply #62 on:** June 01, 2018, 04:58:06 PM »

CB400F bars all mounted...haven’t taken for a ride yet but they look good and gives a much better riding position.

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MCRider · « **Reply #63 on:** June 02, 2018, 10:02:34 AM »

Yes, those bars were the hot ticket for street racers back when they came out, esp since they were pre-drilled. Any tank to switched clearance problems?

CBJoe · « **Reply #64 on:** June 02, 2018, 10:05:29 AM »

Quote from: MCRider on June 02, 2018, 10:02:34 AM

Yes, those bars were the hot ticket for street racers back when they came out, esp since they were pre-drilled. Any tank to switched clearance problems?

Nope...I can fully lock the bars in either direction and the throttle cable bends just clear the tank. I just took it for a ride and the improvement is like night and day.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #65 on:** June 02, 2018, 11:52:38 AM »

Yeah but what is the ride report CBJoeRocket?!

CBJoe · « **Reply #66 on:** June 02, 2018, 03:08:28 PM »

Quote from: Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er on June 02, 2018, 11:52:38 AM

Yeah but what is the ride report CBJoeRocket?!

Hey Jerry!

I rode it down to a local motorcycle show this afternoon...pretty much the first shake down ride.

Bike pulls like crazy above 5k! Nothing like any of my other bikes

The new handlebars improved the comfort and control a ton. I haven't pulled the plugs, but the jetting feels pretty good....dyno will tell on that front. I think my floats may be set a little too high as I get some surging at idle. I think I'm going to order a new bowl drain screw and plumb it to run a tube so I can visually check the float level on the carbs.

Bike seem to like to idle best around 2k....this normal for the worked over engine? May also be a side effect of float height...

I haven't slogged it around that hard as I need to break in the new tires. I also think I'm going to check the balance on the front wheel again as I had some vibration on the front end. However the front springs seem pretty stiff so it may have just been road quality itself I was feeling.

I also need to pull the alternator cover to check the Rotor bolt and the starter clutch. It's pretty consistent now that the starter doesn't engage...it just wines up and clatters. Been using the kick starter today.

As soon as I get things shook out I'm going to schedule a dyno session to see how its doing.

Cheers, Joe

MRieck · « **Reply #67 on:** June 02, 2018, 05:55:55 PM »

Once you remove the rotor/ bolt after it has been tightened at the factory it is difficult to get it to stay stuck. The taper interference system is the culprit I'd say. I have run into this before. That bolt has to be hammered down with an air impact. Maybe some Green Loctite would help. Anyway......I have seen this problem multiple time always after the rotor was pulled off the crank. Once it is tightened again the rotor generally stays stuck on the end of the crank. Like I said...I have seen this time and time again.

CBJoe · « **Reply #68 on:** June 02, 2018, 06:36:50 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on June 02, 2018, 05:55:55 PM

Once you remove the rotor/ bolt after it has been tightened at the factory it is difficult to get it to stay stuck. The taper interference system is the culprit I'd say. I have run into this before. That bolt has to be hammered down with an air impact. Maybe some Green Loctite would help. Anyway......I have seen this problem multiple time always after the rotor was pulled off the crank. Once it is tightened again the rotor generally stays stuck on the end of the crank. Like I said...I have seen this time and time again.

Thanks mike...I plan to check it before riding again.

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CBJoe · « **Reply #69 on:** June 02, 2018, 07:40:11 PM »

Am I correct I assuming I can lean the bike slightly over and not loose oil if the generator cover is removed?

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CBJoe · « **Reply #70 on:** June 03, 2018, 07:12:54 AM »

Pulled the plugs. Looks like 2/4 are running rich or carbon fouled.

Haven’t bike has done about 12 miles of in town riding.

Other than verifying float heights again any suggestions?

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MCRider · « **Reply #71 on:** June 03, 2018, 07:35:05 AM »

Quote from: CBJoe on June 02, 2018, 07:40:11 PM

Am I correct I assuming I can lean the bike slightly over and not loose oil if the generator cover is removed?

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The trick is to lean it slightly to the right and put a shim under the pedal part of the centerstand, if you still have one.

CBJoe · « **Reply #72 on:** July 08, 2018, 08:52:06 AM »

Had to order a head gasket for the Honda Cub....so while waiting on that I decided to take a look at the Starer rattle issue that has become a persistent.

Got the bike propped over so as not to loose some oil and it was off with the cover to check the rotor bolt.

There's our culprit right there

Not the bolt or the starter clutch...but the starter gear....toasty

Joe

CBJoe · « **Reply #73 on:** July 08, 2018, 09:12:37 AM »

So it's out with the starter.....I'm assuming with that gear being broken it's a whole new starter required (or at least a donor to swap out). All the other gears look good with no chipped or missing teeth.

I also assume I need to drop the oil pan to check it and the pickup screen for the broken bits. Any other recommendations on other steps to take/check?

Joe

CBJoe · « **Reply #74 on:** July 08, 2018, 09:15:38 AM »

Quote from: CBJoe on July 08, 2018, 09:12:37 AM

So it's out with the starter.....I'm assuming with that gear being broken it's a whole new starter required (or at least a donor to swap out the broken bit). All the other gears look good with no chipped or missing teeth.

I also assume I need to drop the oil pan to check it and the pickup screen for the broken bits. Any other recommendations on other steps to take/check?

Joe

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